USO
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Thanks. I trust in Nadal, he will find a way to save Fedal.
Is Nadal playing Paris to protect Federer’s #1?
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Thanks. I trust in Nadal, he will find a way to save Fedal.
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
That site hasn't been updated since August 19th. It's possible it's out of date.It's not true:
In 2021, points will drop based on their standard scheduled drop date when the Tour-level event is played.
FedEx ATP Rankings Adjustments FAQ | ATP Tour | Tennis
www.atptour.com
In anticipation of a return to competition in August, the Rankings, which traditionally operate on a "Best 18" results basis over 52 weeks, will now cover a period of 22 months (March 2019 – December 2020).
ATP Announces Adjustments To FedEx ATP Rankings Due To COVID-19 | ATP Tour | Tennis
The ATP has today announced how the revised FedEx ATP Rankings will be calculated once the Tour resumes.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Apologies, I read what you linked now. It may be true but I also can't find any official announcement beyond that tweet.
Wow really edgy there my friend. Reported.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Except at RG or when lady line judges get in the way?
Murray has the same number of Wimbledon titles as Nadal (Nadal never beat Djoko to win a title however) and only one fewer AO title but his finals makes up for it. And he has won YECs.
Just sayin'. Sorry for my english btw.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Exactly lol. Dude is literally coming out with a half documentary while barefoot on a 80 foot yacht, and just tied for most slams in history, and people on here are so up in arms over trivial mess.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I'd expect this conspiracy theory only from Djokofanatics. The hardcore ones.
Absolute nonsense, of course. In the midst of Corona, Nadal has nothing better to do than PROTECT RF's records??? Because they're "friends"???
No, they ain't. They are FRIENDLY. There's a big difference.
Regardless of the Plague, he could care less. He is playing Paris for his own perceived benefit...
As someone said, what Disneyland version of the tennis tour is this.
Absolute nonsense, of course. In the midst of Corona, Nadal has nothing better to do than PROTECT RF's records??? Because they're "friends"???
No, they ain't. They are FRIENDLY. There's a big difference.
Regardless of the Plague, he could care less. He is playing Paris for his own perceived benefit...
As someone said, what Disneyland version of the tennis tour is this.
Or are you trolling?
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DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Is it true that even if Djokovic does not win the AO, he will still keep the 2000 champion points?
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No offense to Rafa fans but I don't wish to see him perform well the rest of the year. He's got his 20th slam which is an incredible achievement, tying Federer at the top and I hope he's happy with it. I want Djokovic to get the weeks at No. 1 record!
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
No offense to Rafa fans but I don't wish to see him perform well the rest of the year. He's got his 20th slam which is an incredible achievement, tying Federer at the top and I hope he's happy with it. I want Djokovic to get the weeks at No. 1 record!
I'm just happy he's playing. Really don't care about the result ultimately. But it is fair to speculate as to potential scenarios.
TennisProExpert
Semi-Pro
Yet this topic was created by a Nadal fan who hates Djokovic. I haven’t seen a single Federer fan bandwagon onto Fedal.
TennisProExpert
Semi-Pro
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Not really. If not for the cancellations, Djokovic would have secured the record the proper way anyway, so it doesn't matter.
TennisProExpert
Semi-Pro
Supposition, but not fact. The cancellations and ludicrous 2020 point system have all but handed him the record on a silver platter. ATP messed up.
Agree, I think there's no reason to keep the better result of tournaments that have been played.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
RelentlessAttack
Hall of Fame
Novak is going to take the record without much resistance, stop dreaming.
Open Stance
Professional
This is an interesting excerpt from the ATP points FAQs which relates Djokovic playing in Vienna:
If a player competes at an event in 2020 that he did not contest in 2019, points earned at that event must exceed the points of his lowest countable result to displace that lowest countable result from his ‘Best of Other Countable’ total.
So what constitutes Djokovic's lowest countable result? Is it the 0 points he received from the USO DQ? Or does it replace his lowest point total from 2019 (after 16 March) which would be the 90 points he earned from Miami in 2019 (assuming he earns more than 90 points in Vienna)?
If a player competes at an event in 2020 that he did not contest in 2019, points earned at that event must exceed the points of his lowest countable result to displace that lowest countable result from his ‘Best of Other Countable’ total.
So what constitutes Djokovic's lowest countable result? Is it the 0 points he received from the USO DQ? Or does it replace his lowest point total from 2019 (after 16 March) which would be the 90 points he earned from Miami in 2019 (assuming he earns more than 90 points in Vienna)?
estigma2001
Hall of Fame
No, i think he's playing because he wants to compete and also win the tournament
Fabresque
Legend
Pulls up 3 photos with the 3 of themI have to say I’m surprised that Nadal will be playing in Paris. I wonder if the reason is that he wants to gain some points and protect Federer’s weeks at no.1 record? I’m pretty sure it’s impossible for this year but maybe it will be enough to be no.1 early next year before 310? Fedal have a very solid friendship so I wouldn’t be surprised.
Notice how Djokovic is always trying to get attention but Fedal are not really paying attention to him.
Conclusion: FEDERER NADAL GOAT DJOKOVIC ATTENTION SEEKER
USO
Banned
“A picture is worth a thousand words” - Tsitsipas
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
I have to say I’m surprised that Nadal will be playing in Paris. I wonder if the reason is that he wants to gain some points and protect Federer’s weeks at no.1 record? I’m pretty sure it’s impossible for this year but maybe it will be enough to be no.1 early next year before 310? Fedal have a very solid friendship so I wouldn’t be surprised.
Notice how Djokovic is always trying to get attention but Fedal are not really paying attention to him.
Nadal's Universe
Rookie
Of course, part of playing a tournament is the potential money to be earned. Which player would not want that??
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
titoelcolombiano
Legend
Or maybe because they are two of the three big titles he's never won.
Nadal's Universe
Rookie
I think Nadal's goal in order of priority are:
1. Win AO and achieve the Double Career Slam and 21st Slam, stand alone record
2. Win a 14th RG, tying Sampras GS haul of 14
3. Win USO for the 5th time thereby tying Connors, Sampras and Federer
4. Win Paris, Miami and WTF. He can win 2 this year.
5. Winning more Masters titles. It is a race with Novak.
1. Win AO and achieve the Double Career Slam and 21st Slam, stand alone record
2. Win a 14th RG, tying Sampras GS haul of 14
3. Win USO for the 5th time thereby tying Connors, Sampras and Federer
4. Win Paris, Miami and WTF. He can win 2 this year.
5. Winning more Masters titles. It is a race with Novak.
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Let's get this straight, the reasons he's playing are as follows:
competitive match play - can't go 7 months no tennis then play 2 tournaments then take another 5 months off heading in to AO
ranking - not #1, he would be well aware that Thiem can get quite a few points here and wouldn't want to go to AO as #3 seed
competitive match play - can't go 7 months no tennis then play 2 tournaments then take another 5 months off heading in to AO
ranking - not #1, he would be well aware that Thiem can get quite a few points here and wouldn't want to go to AO as #3 seed
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two years ago id have known what this meant but since i stopped freebasing wikipedia tennis trivia i have no idea any more
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indeed, playing tennis is, generally, good if you are a tennis player. and staying #2 matters for him at the ao. this isn't rocket surgery
demrle
Professional
In all honesty, this makes so much sense, that I am ashamed that I didn't get it on my own. Thiem is currently 725 points behind Nadal while having an opportunity to add 910 points in Paris. I'm pretty sure Nadal is not crazy about the possibility of having to play Djokovic in the semis at the AO. Not that he has no chance of beating Djokovic there, but I still think he would rather see him in the finals.
demrle
Professional
That war has been over for over a decade now. After being mercilessly beaten into submission by Nadal over several years, Federer hooked his wagon to Nadal's locomotive, all according to the motto "if you cant beat 'em, join 'em", in order not to be left behind or at the very least become a clear second fiddle.
demrle
Professional
It was Federer fans who created the Fedal in the first place, after it became clear it was Fedal or bust. But even so it wouldn't have worked, had it not been for Djokovic. Djokovic saved the bacon for Federer somewhat, by halting Nadal's momentum. Had it only been down to Federer to fight Nadal OTOH...
TennisProExpert
Semi-Pro
You mean the media?
And if Djokovic didn’t exist, Federer would have 9-10 Australian opens, 11 Wimbledons, 6-7 US opens, and over 400 weeks at number 1. He’s probably cost Federer the slam record.
TennisProExpert
Semi-Pro
Federer doesn’t need to do anything to remain the best of all time, no matter how many clay slams Nadal piles up:
demrle
Professional
Actually, it's completely the other way round. Had there been no pandemic or had the rankings not been frozen, Djokovic would have beaten the record already. At the very least you can consider it all to be a wash and be happy to be able to enjoy the record fro few more months. But we all know that Djokovic beating it is nothing more than a technicality by now.
BackhandDTL
Hall of Fame
Fed collected slams against guys like Baghdatis, Philippousis, Gonzalez.
be real. Federer can be the GBAPBOAT, greatest Baghdatis and Philippousis beater of all time.
Leave the goat debate to Djokodal.
demrle
Professional
Well, the media is a subset of Federer fans, but yeah, if you want to get technical...
No he wouldn't. That is too simplified of a view. The truth is, had it not been for Djokovic, Nadal would have CONTINUED to starkly dominate Federer. There wouldn't have been any senseful discussion about who of the two was better and Federer would not be playing this late in his career, as him catching Nadal and fighting for the GOAT status would have been a lost cause.
Cortana
Legend
You realize that you can win slams without ever being ranked #1? You could potentially win 20 slams without ever being ranked #1, just win 1/year for 20 years.
demrle
Professional
You meant to say - Federer CANNOT do anything to remain the best of all time, no matter how many clay slams Nadal piles up:. There, I corrected it for you.
what about weeks at #1?
demrle
Professional
Apart from the OP's main point being ludicrous to the extent of being called out for trolling, notice how malevolent the OP is, when it comes to Djokovic's attention-seeking part. In the third photo, Nadal and Djokovic are obviously engaged in a conversation, and a joyful one at that.I have to say I’m surprised that Nadal will be playing in Paris. I wonder if the reason is that he wants to gain some points and protect Federer’s weeks at no.1 record? I’m pretty sure it’s impossible for this year but maybe it will be enough to be no.1 early next year before 310? Fedal have a very solid friendship so I wouldn’t be surprised.
Notice how Djokovic is always trying to get attention but Fedal are not really paying attention to him.
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