_phantom
Hall of Fame
Exactly at what score Rafa took 5-10 seconds longer than the stop clock? Please tell us, we can check.
John McEnroe seething over shot-clock drama: ‘Rafael Nadal should be penalised. It’s a joke’
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Exactly at what score Rafa took 5-10 seconds longer than the stop clock? Please tell us, we can check.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
According to the article, John tells to the listeners that the serve clock is used between the 1st and 2nd serve.
He even says that Rafa looks at that clock. And Rafa bashers on TTW are in awe of John.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
How did you measure those seconds?
GhostOfNKDM
Hall of Fame
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
I watched the game - try it some time
You denying he goes over the shot-clock is embarrassing
Mustard
Bionic Poster
They don't like the fact that Nadal does rituals and routines to keep his mind in focus, and that he won't allow himself to be dictated to by outsiders.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
Watch the game again - it was cringe
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Come on. Where in the match did Nadal go 5-10 seconds over the shot clock?
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
I recall at least 6-7 occasions when he used the excuse of the crowd to stop his service routine and start again
Not to mention the towel adjustments on Zed’s serve
_phantom
Hall of Fame
In the QF, Novak used that excuse more often than anyone did in the whole tournament.
killerboss
Professional
He didn't... The guy was yelling in the match thread for Nadal to be called on time violations when there was still a couple of seconds on the clock left. It was comical. I'm not sure if he realises that the umpire stops the clock when the service motion begins.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
That’s because the pro-vax peasants were booing him on every point
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Right. And the rule says that starting your service motion with 1 second left on the shot clock every time is just as fine as starting your service motion with 10 seconds left on the shot clock every time.
Yes I have rarely seen Nadal go over the shot clock and the very few times he goes over the shot clock he rightfully gets a warning. I agree he does milk each and every possible second of the shot clock but rarely is he not ready when the clock hits 0
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
LOLLLOLLLOLLOLOOLLOLOLOOLOL
Mustard
Bionic Poster
And yet you can't seem to give us examples.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
It means that the server didn't play at the reasonable pace. The chair umpires play by the ATP (or Grand Slam) rules.
The ATP Rulebook says: "The Chair Umpire must issue a Time Violation before the expiration of twenty-fi ve (25) seconds if the receiver’s actions delay the reasonable pace of the server."
Worst answer ever. Dont have anything to reply with????
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Did you see these 5 -10 seconds (you are talking about) on the serve clock?
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
Rewatch the game - it’s all there
Just 1 timestamp if that is so easy to find out and he does it everytime. Just admit that you are a bum
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Sorry, but I don't have 183 minutes of time right now to rewatch. I have a final to watch tomorrow
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
It doesn't matter that the server stops his service routine. The chair umpire operates the serve clock: he triggers the clock and gives the server 25 seconds to start his service motion.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
Nadal was over the 25 seconds almost every single time
Did you even watch the game?
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
Then trust me when I say - the Nadal was cheating againSorry, but I don't have 183 minutes of time right now to rewatch. I have a final to watch tomorrow
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Your answer is proof that you are blatantly lying!
Your previous answer was proof that you are continuously lying.
roger presley
Hall of Fame
I did too
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
They only post when he wins - tells you everything you need to know about them
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
He was over every single time. Watch the game again and stop spreading lies on here
Cupcake
Hall of Fame
Which means often, lol.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Agreeing with everything this poster said is one of reasons TTW is full of lies about Rafa.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Did you also see these 5 -10 seconds (@ArcspacE is talking about in post #150) on the serve clock?
Frenchy-Player
Hall of Fame
guanzishou
G.O.A.T.
I also noticed that Iga sometimes hold her racquet up to delay opponent's serve. Maybe something she copies from her idol too
Ok if I show you 1 time when Nadal was within the shot clock will you shut up with your nonsense?
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
But what does it has to do with John's imaginations (about the serve clock between 1st and 2nd serve) quoted in the article linked to OP ?
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
The ones complaining about the shot clock are those who've hardly played in incredibly intense matches. How are Nadal or Djokovic going to be ready to serve the very next point within 25 seconds of the last point after a 30+ shot intense rally on clay? It's insanely draining and taxing. Nadal should be allowed to take some time to get ready to serve his next point I think. It's up to the organizers if they want to implement a shot clock on the second serve. I'd say put the 25 second clock on the second serve. But let the first serve be untimed.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Djokovic chose to fly into Australia unvaccinated.
ghostofMecir
Legend
According to the article, John tells to the listeners that the serve clock is used between the 1st and 2nd serve.
Give me three Rafito matches available online of your choosing, and I’ll pick any point at random where he’s serving and wasting time between serves and between 1st and second serves (hidden time wasting).
Intense matches? He does this in EVERY match and increases it in difficult matches. Go ahead and pick any Rafito matches and anyone can pick points at random.
This is what’s left, i.e., showing once where he’s not time wasting? Lol
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
It’s not that he does not comprehend, rather he blindly makes excuses for bad behaviors, and will debate tooth and nails anyone for it.
PURETENNISsense
Professional
Agreed!
If it's a rule, it should be followed and enforced to all players regardless of how many grandslams the player has.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
Stop lying about his shot clock violations
It’s embarrassing now - the entire TTW is laughing
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Are you a pro?Hahahaha… you know nothing about any of the people here.
coolcamden
Hall of Fame
Are you? I played for money over 10 years. You?
