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G.O.A.T.
It sounds to me like something Mr. Lendl would say.
That is true, then. Didn't Safin say this, too ?!
It sounds to me like something Mr. Lendl would say.
Sad days when Dustbin Brown is what counts for a serve volleyer on grass
There are semi finals and finals men's and woman's yet to play and at a grand slam no less - let's not get too far over our skies for now.....not yet anyway.....
He was BORNWhy the rancor?
Is there something he did/ did not do, for you to give him a nickname like that?
He was BORN
I like Dustin. He’s a bit of a circus act but who cares? He’s fun to watchWhy the rancor?
Is there something he did/ did not do, for you to give him a nickname like that?
I like Dustin. He’s a bit of a circus act but who cares? He’s fun to watch
lol noHmm. Classic TTW racist then.
lol no
He’s just a pretty average player and it’s sad he’s pretty much the standard for serve and volley these days
There are semi finals and finals men's and woman's yet to play and at a grand slam no less - let's not get too far over our skies for now.....not yet anyway.....
Said Manolo Santana and then skipped the Roland Garros in order to prepare himself better for Wimbledon (which he won), lol.Grass is for cows.
Well idk if the wimbledon organizers will be nice to fed when it comes to seeding. Wonder what he will get.
Tsits and Shapo have both sadly underachieved on grass since their junior days. They played a spectacular SF (3 sets 6-2,in the third Shapo) in the 2016 Wimby Boys tournament that suggested they would be challenging for SW19 titles by now. Between them they have four 1R, two 2R and one 4R exits. Time to step up and graze properly!Bold prediction on the record: Tsitsipas will be in the Wimby final if he doesn't injure himself before that.
Tsits and Shapo have both sadly underachieved on grass since their junior days. They played a spectacular SF (3 sets 6-2,in the third Shapo) in the 2016 Wimby Boys tournament that suggested they would be challenging for SW19 titles by now. Between them they have four 1R, two 2R and one 4R exits. Time to step up and graze properly!
Learn from Joe Kovic and train that digestive tract for the grass, even during early round victories, no?Are you suggesting they embrace their inner...GOAT
Tsits and Shapo have both sadly underachieved on grass since their junior days. They played a spectacular SF (3 sets 6-2,in the third Shapo) in the 2016 Wimby Boys tournament that suggested they would be challenging for SW19 titles by now. Between them they have four 1R, two 2R and one 4R exits. Time to step up and graze properly!
I think they both naturally have the shots to play on proper grass, but watching Shapo this week he keeps reverting to more baseline oriented play. Whether that is because the slow courts have stifled any attacking instinct or they are consciously preparing for the hard courts at Wimbledon, I don't know.
Denis Shapovalov is 22. That means it is quite likely that he never stepped foot on grass until probably 2011 or 2012, when he was 9 or 10. Unless there are boatloads of grass courts in Canada. So, unless someone has a time stamped photo of him playing on the grass when he was 5, the grass he played on is the same grass that Nole and Rafa played on when they won.
What on earth are you talking about?
When did Denis Shapovalov play on proper grass?
I said they "naturally have the shots to play on proper grass".
Those would be strong serves with good spin, closed stance single handed backhands with good slice, ability to flatten out and penetrate the forehand, volleys, overhead and good forward movement. They both have all of those.
I then went on to say that despite possessing those strokes, the slow courts they play on may have stifled any attacking instincts. Meaning: despite having the tools, they may not be able to play proper grass tennis.
I didn't say anything about either one actually having a history of play on proper grass. Although it does still exist .. just not at Wimbledon.
Yes, I understand your point. I just happen to disagree with your logic. In the past, attacking the net was the only way to go if you wanted to win Wimbledon. Now, you don't have to adjust as much. That doesn't mean serve-and-volley players will likely lose more, it just means baseliners will likely win more.
It is slower than before, but not as slow as clay. Otherwise David Ferrer and Domi Thiem would like it more.
I'd say we agree on more than you realise.
Attacking the net was a better way to go, but not the only way. Agassi won in the 90s without being a dedicated serve and volleyer. Even Courier made a final! Now the ONLY way to win is from the back. You're right that there is no adjustment, just play a defensive hard court game at the AEC. Even the best serve and volleyer of this era plays from the back.
I note the final 8 at the last Wimbledon contained 5 dedicated baseline bots, 1 clay court specialist, a bumbling servebot and an all court player who played defensive baseline tennis. Thiem is better equipped to play on grass than most of them .. and Ferrer just wasn't good enough. Current form suggest Thiem might not be either.
Despite the rhetoric that "The servebots are coming .. The servebots are coming!" Wimbledon has only once been won by a servebot. In the Open Era, at least. However, it is clearly now dominated by baseline bots or players utilising that style. The very fact that baseline botting wins means all court players do lose more. You cannot have both.
The deck is well and truly stacked and traditional grass court tennis has been killed off at the AEC by poly and slow courts with high bounce.
So what you're saying is that you get off watching those 'titans-of-tennis' Sam Querrey and Dominic Stricker vs. shot-making wizardry from Rafael Nadal & Novak Djokovic, two of the all-time greats and owners of 38 (38!) grand slam titles between them---lmao.Couldn't care less. The Stuttgart 250 is the highlight of my tennis watching year thus far.