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What did Garner do, Chico ?
Djokovic 2017 W, R3 v. Edmund ?
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...djokovic-v-edmund-wimbledon-3rd-round.620964/
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What did Garner do, Chico ?
ridiculous for you to make such an accusation w/o any evidence whatsoever!He put a bet on Kyrgios.
Do you know what the odds were for that match ?He put a bet on Kyrgios.
Do you know what the odds were for that match ?
I would expect he would make money on PHH winning rather than Nick.
Eh, he did something he pretty clearly wasn't supposed to be doing. I don't know if there's a written rule for it but we have to admit it's in an area of general failure to do his job properly.
And I actually sympathise with him - I was one of the few to stick up for him in the original thread. I just don't think he/we can complain about him being given some sort of punishment though.
Speculation of course.ridiculous for you to make such an accusation w/o any evidence whatsoever!
Lol the way these tournaments rig draws for expected outcomes...
Lol the way these tournaments rig draws for expected outcomes, its no wonder some of these refs have begun to see themselves more as maestros conducting some theatre in the vein of WWE than as umpires
But he broke the rules, despite his best intentions for tennis as a whole, so must sit it out in the sin bin
Totally agree.[Insert gif of POTUS saying WRONG !]
If you were moonlighting (with permission from your primary employer) and they evaluated you at your second job do you think it fair for the other employer to second guess it.
The ATP should have kept out of it. Unless it’s a ruse for a disguised and well deserved vacation. In which case, well played ATP.
He has actually a Swedish national these days so illegal travel bans do not affect him.
If it did that would be a hilarious indictment of the policy.
Ramos is contributing with $450.should llahany pay Herbert that lost prize money ?
OK, then. Now it’s Ramos’s turn.
He did not. He was just inventive. What Garner deserves if Lahyani is suspended?
Warning someone about tanking is part of officiating, no? VAMOS !
The method was unorthodox but better then what they usually do — nothing. Or a mindless “warning,” “penalty”, “game.”
This guy is among the best if not the best in the business and he comes up with creative solutions.
He owes an apology to Herbert.
CORRECTION.
He’s the hero tennis deserves but not the one it needs right now.
Even when Kyrgios is involved in an apparently positive story, bad things happen.
You use Michael Cohen to make the payment.
If Lahyani was a woman this would be on the front page of every newspaper right now.
Ramos is contributing with $450.
Lahyani is an Arabic word meaning "Life", so the thread title says "Life suspended"
Deserved, He broke the rules
I don't agree with all the people who say he had some interest (a bet, or extra publicity) in the match, it seems like he was being too nice at the expense of professionalism. I guess a suspension for the Asian swing isn't that bad.justified, but a bummer. he seems like a great guy, brings some fun and engagement to the court and given this is an entertainment-driven business there is value there. pay fine, serve as an example, move on...
My rulesCan you name the rules that he broke exactly?
Yup. I was initially wondering whether he is paid per event like some other posts have mentioned about Umpires in general.From this we learn there is a grand total of seven salaried ATP umpires.
You can't drag feminism into everything because you have a private obsession, no?
Great, you're soo smart :^)
Instead of being praised, he is punished. He just encouraged a player to play.
He did a mistake and right call to suspend him (by the way, my GOAT umpire).
But I totally understand why he did that to "Kyrgios".
Anybody who knows how Kyrgios sometimes sabotage a match.
Hopefully this incident triggers something in Kyrgios mind and he gets his act together, at least on court.
GS tournaments are counted as ATP / WTA tournaments. The main word for GS has ITF, butIt certainly was an odd error of judgement.
Interesting the ATP should suspend him when it was an ITF event, or have I misunderstood the workings between the two bodies?
Could just be they want a suspension now and not wait ages for the next ITF event, the likes of which will be more prestigious for Lahyani than missing a couple of ATP 250s.
Would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall for both recent umpire debacles!
He made a mistake but I’m not sure he deserved to be suspended. It’s a little severe.
Can you name the rules that he broke exactly?
ITF Duties and Procedures for Officials Manual (2017)
Page 26, Section U, Number 8:
"8. Officials must maintain complete impartiality with respect to all players at all times, and must avoid any real or perceived conflicts of interest. Specifically, Officials shall not i) officiate in any match in which they have a real or perceived conflict of interest; or ii) socialise with or become intimate with players, or enter into any relationship or take any action that may call into question their impartiality as an Official. For the avoidance of doubt and notwithstanding the above, Officials may attend social functions at which players are present and may stay in the same hotels as players, but shall not share a hotel room with any player of any age. Officials must declare all conflicts of interest with ITF Officiating, which administers the Joint Certification Programme on behalf of all members of the Joint Certification Programme. Note: Examples of conflicts of interest include, but are not limited to being: a professional tennis player or a friend, relative or Player Support Team member of a professional tennis player; a National Tennis Coach; a National Tennis Team Captain; a Tournament Director/Organiser; or an employee, consultant or contractor for a company that has a commercial interest in tennis."
https://www.itftennis.com/media/221928/221928.pdf
"It's all there. Clear as crystal. In black and white. You lose, good day sir!"
Sadly, I sincerely doubt it will happen. How many times?!! has Kyrgios pulled this kind of **** and yet it still keeps happening. I don't see Kyrgios having some sort of an epiphany anytime soon.
The most likely thing to happen here is that more fines and other forms of punishment are handed out to players that appear to be tanking in matches or not giving their best effort, assuming there isn't a medical or player safety issue.
ITF Duties and Procedures for Officials Manual (2017)
Page 26, Section U, Number 8:
"8. Officials must maintain complete impartiality with respect to all players at all times, and must avoid any real or perceived conflicts of interest. Specifically, Officials shall not i) officiate in any match in which they have a real or perceived conflict of interest; or ii) socialise with or become intimate with players, or enter into any relationship or take any action that may call into question their impartiality as an Official. For the avoidance of doubt and notwithstanding the above, Officials may attend social functions at which players are present and may stay in the same hotels as players, but shall not share a hotel room with any player of any age. Officials must declare all conflicts of interest with ITF Officiating, which administers the Joint Certification Programme on behalf of all members of the Joint Certification Programme. Note: Examples of conflicts of interest include, but are not limited to being: a professional tennis player or a friend, relative or Player Support Team member of a professional tennis player; a National Tennis Coach; a National Tennis Team Captain; a Tournament Director/Organiser; or an employee, consultant or contractor for a company that has a commercial interest in tennis."
I wonder if the Serena incident contributed.
The contrast of the two was always weird. Kyrgios, on the verge of getting a penalty for tanking, gets a pep talk that may be coaching... whereas Serena gets a warning and eventually a game penalty and no "I'm on your side" pep talk.
So the ATP is making it clear that they prefer the umpires to make the calls and enforce the rules, rather than trying to coach players to prevent them from breaking them.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7lSpNmdq...7FTTTLKRJNZtXmVGZQCLcB/s640/dumpster-fire.jpgThats not how President Dummy's travel ban works.