Medvedev reaches 5th finale in a row. Has this feat been done before by non-slammers?

[UnderratedSlam]

In other words, is there anyone in the Open Era who´s done this, but who´s never won a slam, before or after the feat?

I´ll just assume that if there is a non-ATG who had done this, it must have been a very long time ago.

I.e. this stat would be further proof that Bearerer has a great career ahead of him, will win slams, the whole enchelada.

Additionally, after reaching his first M1000 finale, he reached another one just a week later and then a slam finale a few weeks after that. Not sure when any "newbie" had done this, or if it was ever done.

 

[Centrius]

I know Medvedev is 23 y/o but still he is overplaying.imo.

 

[Yugram]

I’m somewhere in between poll options. Mickey mouse tournaments like St.Pt and DC with some Masters in the mix doesn’t necessary mean anything, but there is something to think about because he reached USO final.

We shall wait till AO.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Vexing Med has potential to do great things in slams, and already has started that path. But all it takes is an early loss at AO and he will be scoffed at like the rest.

 

[S'in-net]

He's hit the ground running and stayed running

Attitude of players taking to the court vs him will or has now changed

For instance Tsitsipas formerly annoyed by losing to that kind of player to Tsitsipas the clear underdog not expected to win against too good a player...

Federer likely to go out to 4

The real question is can he split up the Nadal/Djokovic duopoly ? ?

 

[James P]

I know Medvedev is 23 y/o but still he is overplaying.imo.

He took a week off after the US Open and he's taking a week off this week. He'll be fine imo.

 

[Centrius]

He took a week off after the US Open and he's taking a week off this week. He'll be fine imo.

That's better, he was playing to death before the UO.

 

[James P]

That's better, he was playing to death before the UO.

He'll be right back at it, balls to the wall, for five straight weeks after this week off. But, surely he has to lose at some point before a final, right? RIGHT??

 

[Tshooter]

There is no proof you can win slams other than by winning slams.

 

[UnderratedSlam]

There is no proof you can win slams other then by winning slams.

And yet many slam careers were successfully foretold, predicted.

Sampras, Federer, Agassi, Nadal, Kafelnikov, and the list goes on...

Not an exact science, of course, as nobody has a crystal ball.

Except Brad Gibert.

 

[PT280 Fan]

He should have been given some of that guarantee money reserved for Fed and Nadal to play for Team World so they could finally get off the snide and post a win in Laver Cup. That format is becoming kind of a joke with the disparity of rankings between the players on Team Europe and Team World. Without the doubles prowess of Jack Sock and the indomitable spirit of Sock, Kyrgios and Isner, that event would be a total yawn fest.

 

[WildRevolver]

He should have been given some of that guarantee money reserved for Fed and Nadal to play for Team World so they could finally get off the snide and post a win in Laver Cup. That format is becoming kind of a joke with the disparity of rankings between the players on Team Europe and Team World. Without the doubles prowess of Jack Sock and the indomitable spirit of Sock, Kyrgios and Isner, that event would be a total yawn fest.

Except it wasn’t and instead was quite entertaining.

 

[James P]

Except it wasn’t and instead was quite entertaining.

I was disinterested the first 1.5 days, but must admit it became quite entertaining as it became clear it wasn't going to be a lopsided affair.

 

[PT280 Fan]

Except it wasn’t and instead was quite entertaining.

And that's thanks to Sock, Kyrgios and Isner. Still, Team Europe had seven players this year in the top eleven in the world and Team World started at #20 with John Isner (Raonic and Kyrgios at 24 & 27). Of course Sock is considered one of the best doubles players in the world. It's like they have enough to compete but not quite win.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

In other words, is there anyone in the Open Era who´s done this, but who´s never won a slam, before or after the feat?

I´ll just assume that if there is a non-ATG who had done this, it must have been a very long time ago.

I.e. this stat would be further proof that Bearerer has a great career ahead of him, will win slams, the whole enchelada.

Additionally, after reaching his first M1000 finale, he reached another one just a week later and then a slam finale a few weeks after that. Not sure when any "newbie" had done this, or if it was ever done.

good question!
lendl and ivanisevic have done it before winning their slam(s), but apart from that, ummm...

 

[victorcruz]

He's easily the best of the rest, by that I mean outside of the big 3. He should be a force but need to see him get that first slam before we declare him as the next one.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

The 5 finals is pretty impressive but each year lately a NextGen is hyped because of some good performances and then goes missing the next year. If he has a solid year next year building on this then we might be able to look at Medvedev as a genuine consistent threat to the big 3.

 

[James P]

The 5 finals is pretty impressive but each year lately a NextGen is hyped because of some good performances and then goes missing the next year. If he has a solid year next year building on this then we might be able to look at Medvedev as a genuine consistent threat to the big 3.

Technically, this is at least the third individual hyping this season after Tsitsipas and FAA. But, you're right that there has been a lot of let down after a massive buildup.

 

[Mack-2]

I could be wrong but didn’t Delpo win like 4 tournaments in a row back in the summer of 2008 while all the top guys were playing in the Olympics?

 

[Crisstti]

I would like to know too. It's certainly really, really impressive.

 

[geffer]

It depends
It really impressive for the type of people like medverev. It is like 2 years ago's Thiem who kept going many final continuously. But it is kind of meaning less for the people like big 4. The only achivement could be mentioned here is 1 Cincinnati open winner which could be counted as big title. But tbh, all the champions except GS and OG are somewhat meaningless to big 3.....

 

[BeatlesFan]

And yet many slam careers were successfully foretold, predicted.

Sampras, Federer, Agassi, Nadal, Kafelnikov, and the list goes on...

Not an exact science, of course, as nobody has a crystal ball.

Except Brad Gibert.

Remember that in 2012, BG predicted Ryan Harrison would win slams and be top 10 by 2013.

 

[BeatlesFan]

I could be wrong but didn’t Delpo win like 4 tournaments in a row back in the summer of 2008 while all the top guys were playing in the Olympics?

Yup-- Del Po won two 250's on clay in Europe and then won LA and DC.

 

[James P]

Here's Nadal's run directly before winning his first RG:

Brasil Open 250 W
Mexico Open 500 W
Miami Open 1000 F
Valencia 250 QF
Monte Carlo 1000 W
Barcelona 500 W
Rome Masters 1000 W

Roland Garros 2005 W

 

[GabeT]

There is no proof you can win slams other than by winning slams.

It’s the best way to do it, really.

 

[James P]

Here's Nadal's run directly before winning his first RG:

Brasil Open 250 W
Mexico Open 500 W
Miami Open 1000 F
Valencia 250 QF
Monte Carlo 1000 W
Barcelona 500 W
Rome Masters 1000 W

Roland Garros 2005 W

It should be noted, prior to this run, Nadal had only been in 2 finals (in 2004), winning 1. Basically this run put him on the map from the young NextGen of his day to the big time champion he became.

 

[Tshooter]

It should be noted, prior to this run, Nadal had only been in 2 finals (in 2004), winning 1. Basically this run put him on the map from the young NextGen of his day to the big time champion he became.

Also note he was around 11 years old at the time not 23.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Here's Nadal's run directly before winning his first RG:

Brasil Open 250 W
Mexico Open 500 W
Miami Open 1000 F
Valencia 250 QF
Monte Carlo 1000 W
Barcelona 500 W
Rome Masters 1000 W

Roland Garros 2005 W

So frickin epic!

 

[James P]

100% true. He was a whole lot younger than Medvedev.

 

[Tshooter]

... The only achivement could be mentioned here is 1 Cincinnati open winner which could be counted as big title. But tbh, all the champions except GS and OG are somewhat meaningless to big 3.....

Don't sell Cincy short. It's also meaningless at this stage to The Big 3 apart from possible sponsor commitments, USO warmup potential and local cuisine.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/ustaassets/assets/663/15/prime_cincinnati.pdf

 

[James P]

Great, now I'm hungry

 

[Tshooter]

Remember that in 2012, BG predicted Ryan Harrison would win slams and be top 10 by 2013.

 

[Frank Bannister]

2003 - The Summer of Andy Roddick

 

[Tshooter]

2003 - The Summer of Andy Roddick

 

[TennisFan3]

Bearerer

Is Mad lad called the Bearerer? How did he get this name, and could you please explain the history? Thanks.

 

[UnderratedSlam]

good question!
lendl and ivanisevic have done it before winning their slam(s), but apart from that, ummm...

Ivanisevic reached 5 finales in a row, or two M1000s just before his first slam finale?

Are you quite sure?

 

[UnderratedSlam]

Is Mad lad called the Bearerer? How did he get this name, and could you please explain the history? Thanks.

I call him that. Medved means bear, as most tennis fans probably know. But calling him Bear is too dull. Better give him the Swiss treatment to make it sound more fun.

 

[UnderratedSlam]

Remember that in 2012, BG predicted Ryan Harrison would win slams and be top 10 by 2013.

I need proof of that. Gilbert being so far off, that would be interesting.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

Ivanisevic reached 5 finales in a row, or two M1000s just before his first slam finale?

Are you quite sure?

Just talking bout 5 straight finals before having won any slam...
The list is short enough!
(Muster also won his lone RG title as part of such a streak)

 

[Phoenix1983]

Medvedev is not yet the most successful Medvedev in men's tennis.

Medvedev has equalled Medvedev's highest ranking of No 4.

Medvedev has also equalled Medvedev's best slam performance (losing final in 5 sets vs. a great of the game).

However, Medvedev still trails Medvedev in overall titles (6 vs. 11) and Masters titles (1 vs. 4).

 

[accidental]

Del Potro won 4 250’s in a row back in 2008 before the US Open.

He was stopped by Murray in the 4th round. Was pretty impressive for a 19 year old

 

[travlerajm]

And yet many slam careers were successfully foretold, predicted.

Sampras, Federer, Agassi, Nadal, Kafelnikov, and the list goes on...

Not an exact science, of course, as nobody has a crystal ball.

Except Brad Gibert.

Gilbert predicted Chung would be a multiple slam winner.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

Del Potro won 4 250’s in a row back in 2008 before the US Open.

He was stopped by Murray in the 4th round. Was pretty impressive for a 19 year old

nice streak, indeed... and it was even in the QF that he lost to murray after a 4 tight sets !

it's actually relatively rare to win another title straight after his first title : who else did that ?
- mathieu (moscow/lyon, 2002)
- gaudio (barcelona/mallorca, 2002)
- roddick (atlanta/houston, 2001)
- johansson (copenhague/leningrad, 1997)
- mcenroe (hartford/san francisco, 1978)
- becker (queen's/wimbledon, 1985)
(other examples ?...)

but 4 straight titles for delpo (stuttgart/kitzbuhel/LA/washington)... seems it's some unique feat !
Nb: straight... 'entered', regardless of resting weeks between 2 tournaments.

 

[helterskelter]

Medvedev is not yet the most successful Medvedev in men's tennis.

Medvedev has equalled Medvedev's highest ranking of No 4.

Medvedev has also equalled Medvedev's best slam performance (losing final in 5 sets vs. a great of the game).

However, Medvedev still trails Medvedev in overall titles (6 vs. 11) and Masters titles (1 vs. 4).

And Andriy Medvedev also made the semis of another Slam, as well as three other quarter-finals. That was Dmitry's first Slam quarter-final.

Incidentally, they both lost 6-4 in the fifth of their Slam final in a match in which one player won the first two sets and the other won the second two sets. For Andriy, however, it was a 2-0 lead that he let slip, whereas Dmitry was 2-0 behind.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

And Andriy Medvedev also made the semis of another Slam, as well as three other quarter-finals. That was Dmitry's first Slam quarter-final.

Incidentally, they both lost 6-4 in the fifth of their Slam final in a match in which one player won the first two sets and the other won the second two sets. For Andriy, however, it was a 2-0 lead that he let slip, whereas Dmitry was 2-0 behind.

I wish both 'meds' had won...

 

[BeatlesFan]

Also note he was around 11 years old at the time not 23.

Also note that Becker, Borg and Wilander all had won 2 slams by the time Nadal won his first. And yes, we know Fed didn't win a slam until he was almost 22.

 

[helterskelter]

I wish both 'meds' had won...

Especially the second Med. Although I preferred the first Med.

 

[helterskelter]

Also note that Becker, Borg and Wilander all had won 2 slams by the time Nadal won his first. And yes, we know Fed didn't win a slam until he was almost 22.

Alas, this isn't true. Becker did win two Slams prior to turning 19. But Wilander was already 19 and a few months when he won the Australian Open 1983, his second Slam, and Nadal was only 19 and a few days when he won Roland Garros 2005. Borg was also a few days older at the time of his second Slam than Nadal at the time of his first. So, I think Becker was the only one to win two slams younger than Nadal at his first. Wilander, Borg, and Chang all won one Slam when younger than Nadal.

 

[BeatlesFan]

I need proof of that. Gilbert being so far off, that would be interesting.

@UnderratedSlam BG said Ryan Harrison would be top 10 and win slams on March 9, 2013 during Harrison's match against Rafa at Indian Wells. I watched that match live and Gilbert said that during the match and then afterwards in the match wrap up. Gilbert also said in 2011 at IW during Harrison's match against Fed that he would win slams and have as great a career as Roddick.

 

[MugOpponent]

there is no doubt