RelentlessAttack
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if they thought that they were morons, I never thought Nadal was in good form this clay season
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if they thought that they were morons, I never thought Nadal was in good form this clay season
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Next year we can revisit all this again!
TTMR
Hall of Fame
It was very hard to watch tennis in North America (and I am guessing other countries too) other than Wimbledon and USO prior to the specialty cable and internet streaming era. There just wasn't nearly as much money in it prior to the Federer period (which coincided with the arrival of specialty cable and later internet streaming). People played a lot more tennis in the 90s and before, but watched a lot more of it since.
Evidence: Djokovic, despite being relatively unpopular, still has way more inflation adjusted earnings than Borg, who was the most popular player in the most popular era of tennis. Why? There's just a lot more money in the game now. Fans spend way more, especially the upper class and upper middle class elites that comprise the fan base.
goldengate14
Professional
Djokovic makes a big deal about being into Indian customs amd religion no doubt to get support in India a country of 1 billion people. Apart from serbians a quick look at those social.media outlets shows the vast majority of Djokovic fans are indian.
so by your logic Djokovic is less popular than Wawrinka
goldengate14
Professional
It is ironic seeing Djokovic fans trying to cope with Djokovic remaining in 3rd place of this era (by Djokovics own admission given his Olympic 2024 comments) by taking solace in Djokovic making his h2h v a one footed 35 year old Nadal at RG to 2-7 and still being 2 titles behind Federer at Wimbledon and celebrating beating a 39 year old Federer to still be trailing while at the same time trying to airbrush out of reality Djokovic being thrashed by Mededev with cramp when they were saying Djokovic would seal Goat debate in 2021. The disappointment for those people seems to be getting more acute.
goldengate14
Professional
But for the choke of all time by Djokovic we really should not have to. Amazing Nadal now favourite to win slam race. Tsitsipas and Zverev his biggest challengers at RG i feelNext year we can revisit all this again!
Sunny014
Legend
You are right about the 90s but I feel same disadvantage applies to Roger of 2000s as well if we compared to the 2010s
Roger himself made 650 Million of his 1 Billion in the 2010s, so that means maximum money has come in 2010s, so the reigning champion of the 2011-2021 period Novak (who won 19 slams) should have made the most money in this period but he is not marketable, even Naomi Osaka of all people makes more money this year than Novak who won 3 years and was going for a CYGS, that is the state of affairs
So I feel Novak & Mr Nadal are not even in Fed's league in terms of marketability, they might even be below Agassi or Borg in terms of cult status/marketability...
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
You made 18 millions Facebook accounts to make Fed the most followed guy of the three.
Standaa
G.O.A.T.
I did darling
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
In 2021, there were around 1.35 billion people worldwide who spoke English, which is Fed's mother language.
Fed has 34 times less number of fans than there is actual English speaking population.
As you said, Rafa has 11 times less number of fans than there is actual spanish speaking population .
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Fed holds dual citizenship: Swiss & South African. There are over 60 million people in South Africa. Fed has the largest number of co-citizens compared to Rafa and Djoko.
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
Federer's language is swiss-german .
Fed's daughter's speak slovakian with Mirka . .
Fed is not from Great Britian . He isn't English . He just converses in English whenever required just like the rest of us .
He doesn't belong to the ethnicity of Great Britain /english Nation .
Most English readers are in india .
By your logic , Indians should be the biggest fans of David beckham or Andy Murray (Scottish but he represents Great Britian ) . But that is not the case
Swiss-german, Spanish ,Serbian are the languages / ethnic languages of Fed,Rafa , Novak !
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
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Kids, who I think are more inclined to follow tennis players on social media, etc, love Nadal the most, imo and from my experience talking to young tennis fans. I don't know why. He is my favorite but I imagine for different reasons- I cheered him to usurp Federer. Maybe for young people it was the shorts? The muscles? The kit?
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
You are wrong. Fed's mother language is English. His mother is South African and has spoken English with him since he was a baby.Federer's language is swiss-german .
Fed's daughter's speak slovakian with Mirka . .
Fed is not from Great Britian . He isn't English . He just converses in English whenever required just like the rest of us .
He doesn't belong to the ethnicity of Great Britain /english Nation .
Most English readers are in india .
By your logic , Indians should be the biggest fans of David beckham or Andy Murray (Scottish but he represents Great Britian ) . But that is not the case
Swiss-german, Spanish ,Serbian are the languages / ethnic languages of Fed,Rafa , Novak !
Fed's kids also speak English (according to Fed, they understands 3 languages: English, Swiss-German, Slovak).
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Young tennis players like Rafa for his personality.
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
Fed's mother is South African . She speaks English . Whites in the country South africa speaks English .
And English definately is Global language , maximum readers of English language are in India . Are Indians English by ancestry ?? Nope .
Fed has always associated himself with Swiss-german ethnicity/nationality . He plays for Switzerland and not Great Britian .
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
You are ignoring facts. Facts are:
- Since Federer’s mother is South African, he holds both Swiss and South African citizenship.
- English is an official language in South Africa.
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
You are totally ignoring facts .
Is Nadal Spanish by ethnicity/ nationality ? Yes .
Is Federer English by nationality ?? Nope .
He is Swiss by nationality . He plays for Switzerland and not Great Britian .
And , there are 11 official languages in South Africa . English is not the only one .
" Only 10 % " people in South Africa are English speaking population .
English is the Official Language of India too .
Virat Kohli / Shahrukh Khan are not English .
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
You are totally ignoring facts .
Is Nadal Spanish by ethnicity/ nationality ? Yes .
Is Federer English by nationality ?? Nope .
He is Swiss by nationality . He plays for Switzerland and not Great Britian .
And , there are 11 official languages in South Africa . English is not the only one .
" Only 10 % " people in South Africa are English speaking population .
English is the Official Language of India too .
Virat Kohli / Shahrukh Khan are not English .
Rafa's mother language is not Spanish. His 1st language is Mallorqui, a variety of Catalan spoken in Mallorca.
goldengate14
Professional
Lol stop digging. Your logic made Wawrinka more popular than Djokovic lol.You are totally ignoring facts .
Is Nadal Spanish by ethnicity/ nationality ? Yes .
Is Federer English by nationality ?? Nope .
He is Swiss by nationality . He plays for Switzerland and not Great Britian .
And , there are 11 official languages in South Africa . English is not the only one .
" Only 10 % " people in South Africa are English speaking population .
English is the Official Language of India too .
Virat Kohli / Shahrukh Khan are not English .
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
does anyone have stats about fans that stay away from all these social crapworks (twitshit, fecesbook, instaflush, etc.)?
Djokodal Fan
Hall of Fame
since tennis is popularity contest: Anna Kournikova, Sugarpova > Federer
Deal with it
Deal with it
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Deleted member 771911
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So, if money makes Federer goat, and popularity makes Nadal goat, where does that leave Djokovic?
LMAO !!
Mallorqui or whatever. Who cares..
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Who cares that you don't care about it.
You care. That is why you replied.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
You’re shortchanging Fed. He was worth almost 1 billion dollars before the On shoe IPO drop in September. He’s conservatively worth 4 billion now and that will go far higher as the show stock rises.Roger Federer is worth 1 BILLION+ $
Sunny014
Legend
I hope forbes announces the official figures soon
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Nope.
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer needs to announce a plan to donate his immense wealth to be a GOAT in my eyes.
Otherwise he will simply become another out of touch billionaire and lose the magic surrounding him to the deadly sin of greed.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Buy WWE and make things the way Anakin and Padme want them to be.
maratha_warrior
Hall of Fame
Disliking player is fine but this is taking it to another level bruhh .
Divisive forces ??
By divisive term you mean , begging for " unity between masters and labourers"
Forming PTPA is divisive ? Because Rafa thinks it that way via his tweets ?
Fed later said in an interview that Novak is a wellwisher of lower ranked players .
All he asked for is better payment to lower ranked players and giving the players representation in decision making process in the tennis association as a whole .
Novak can be divisive only for the establishmemt and beneficiaries of the establishment and the Media that they control .
Novak simply asked that players shouldnt be treated as labourers by Master ( ATP ) and that players must have a say in decision making process too .
It is the stupidity of certain masses to believe the lies of Establishment & media which potrays someone as " divisive " ,who actually tries and stands up for the marginalised or un-privileged .
Such comments only shows that , people are fine with Establishment promoting stars who are loyal to the establishment and not to tennis fraternity .
To hell with such global popularity then .
Sachin was sold as National icon and Global icon for 20 years , but noone gives a F about him now ..
He is named in every Tax frauds that comes to light .
Even the pandora leaks mentions Sachin's name which Indian media is trying hard to hide.
Indian establishment working round the clock to hide the name of their BharatRatna .
What is the use of such Icons ?
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
I can't verify this as my Facebook and Instagram aren't working.
Standaa
G.O.A.T.
Sunny014
Legend
Disliking player is fine but this is taking it to another level bruhh .
Divisive forces ??
By divisive term you mean , begging for " unity between masters and labourers"
Forming PTPA is divisive ? Because Rafa thinks it that way via his tweets ?
Fed later said in an interview that Novak is a wellwisher of lower ranked players .
All he asked for is better payment to lower ranked players and giving the players representation in decision making process in the tennis association as a whole .
Novak can be divisive only for the establishmemt and beneficiaries of the establishment and the Media that they control .
Novak simply asked that players shouldnt be treated as labourers by Master ( ATP ) and that players must have a say in decision making process too .
It is the stupidity of certain masses to believe the lies of Establishment & media which potrays someone as " divisive " ,who actually tries and stands up for the marginalised or un-privileged .
Such comments only shows that , people are fine with Establishment promoting stars who are loyal to the establishment and not to tennis fraternity .
To hell with such global popularity then .
Sachin was sold as National icon and Global icon for 20 years , but noone gives a F about him now ..
He is named in every Tax frauds that comes to light .
Even the pandora leaks mentions Sachin's name which Indian media is trying hard to hide.
Indian establishment working round the clock to hide the name of their BharatRatna .
What is the use of such Icons ?
Yes, Sachin was a corrupt arse-hole ... I agree
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
That remained stable:
Rafael Nadal:
Twitter: 15.6M
Roger Federer:
Twitter: 12.7M
Novak Djokovic
Twitter: 8.8M
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King No1e
G.O.A.T.
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Linelicker
Rookie
No one is more popular than Federer in tennis. Twitter doesn't change that.
Saying this as a Nadal fan.
Saying this as a Nadal fan.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Well playedRoger Federer is worth 1 BILLION+ $
Beating Roger in tennis stats (like Slams, Weeks at 1, YE1s) is only the first part of the challenge , the real challenge would be to surpass his brand-value and popularity to become a bigger icon......!
Unless this hurdle is passed, nobody can surpass him as the GOAT because GOAThood in reality is a popularity contest among the best ATGs who can raise a stake on that claim
Ombelibable
Professional
Pete Sampras has zero tweets and a handful of followers. Goat confirmed.
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Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
There are plenty of stupid Nadal fans.
Any idiot can support a tennis player
Yes, we had deliberatestranger, Nadalalot, nadalrecords and so on...many stupid Nadal fan.
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Deleted member 791948
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I've probably disliked more Nadal fans than I have any other fan base, because I don't like seeing Nadal fans criticize or doubt NadalYes, we had deliberatestranger, Nadalalot, nadalrecords and so on...many stupid Nadal fan.
So many of them have written Nadal off whenever there was an injury, or blame him for scheduling an event when they think he shouldn't have.
Whereas its expected that non-Nadal fans criticize or underrate him, so not a big deal when they do.
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