Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Only Rafa can deal with his own injury variety.Easy victory. Medvedev can't deal with Rafa variety.
Nadal gets a bye to finals
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Not really
And there's no such thing as a tragedy when you have a great family, own restaurants, give back the community, are a living legend, and spend days off on a custom yacht
Happened to Macho Man and he's still GOATY
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Deleted member 743561
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Not really
And there's no such thing as a tragedy when you have a great family, own restaurants, give back the community, are a living legend, and spend days off on a custom yacht
Him not defending any non clay titles was proof of strong era
Tennis_Hands
Banned
It would have been, if the players that beat him weren't often relative nobodies that just dropped once they had a go at him.
sredna42
Hall of Fame
I hate nadal but my point has nothing to do with him personally, or fed or anyone. They can only play the people put in front of them. I'm talking about the management of these events.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Sad when a tourney knows they can make more money by NOT having a SF. That is essentially what they said today, and it might be true.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Can't remember who said it or who had it as their signature, but someone had the quote in their signature that fits this scenario.
"He thinks he is Monfils, the problem for him, he is Monfils."
"He thinks he is Monfils, the problem for him, he is Monfils."
helixx
Hall of Fame
they care about 250’sWrong. Federer fans don’t care about Masters because Federer is not a record holder in that category. Just like they won’t care about Slams in about 1,5 year
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Robert Baratheon
Guest
helixx
Hall of Fame
ah you were firstThey also dont care about the Olympics of course.
What will they care about in 1,5 years? ATP250?
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Get ready for another semi-final walk-over next week against guess who...It would have been, if the players that beat him weren't often relative nobodies that just dropped once they had a go at him.
Born Again
Rookie
I don’t see the issue here.
If Monfils thought he was in no condition to play a 2nd match in the same day with only a few hours rest and a bad ankle, well, he is completely right to do so.
If Monfils thought he was in no condition to play a 2nd match in the same day with only a few hours rest and a bad ankle, well, he is completely right to do so.
OldschoolKIaus
Hall of Fame
Toni paid for it.
"Butta I wanno play, no?"
"Shut up Rafa!"
"Butta I wanno play, no?"
"Shut up Rafa!"
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Robert Baratheon
Guest
Yeah it's not like Rafa isn't doing shït like that in Cincy. Last year Jaziri had the top seeds draw lmao when Rafa withdrew.
If he won't play this year too then the bottom half will completely fall off. I mean Rafa vs inspired players trying to beat Rafa are often good matches and him withdrawing will take that away from the tournament.
If he had withdrawn beforehand then the draw would have been balanced with more opportunities of good matches.
That is far more shïttier than a tired/semi-injured Monfils withdrawing from a match.
Hell Fraud did the same in Rome this year but no one gonna bring that up.
I don't think he was wrong in doing that. So isn't Guru.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Is this how he won Canada last year beating Paire, Cilic, Khachanov, Tsitsipas and Wawrinka?
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
To paraphrase you, Fed was 'doing shït' in 2017, when he pulled out of the Paris Masters after the draw was made, because he wanted to rest.
Metro, 31 Oct 2017: ¤¤ The Swiss star announced on Sunday, following his victory over Juan Martin del Potro in the final of the Swiss Indoors in Basel, that he would not be taking part. The world No 2 wishes to rest ahead of the ATP World Tour Finals, thus maintaining his approach of prioritising his fitness above all else.¤¤
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Wait what?Shame, RBA would have at least played even though he would have lost most probably.
I'll never forget 2014 Miami though, where we had no semifinals at all.
That happened?
Enceladus
Legend
It's not a odd record. This fact shows that, unlike Djoker and Fed, Nadal was unable to linearly control a tournament outside its strongest surface.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
he should had tanked the TB
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Deleted member 733170
Guest
Very sensible suggestions
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Robert Baratheon
Guest
One person's shït doesn't make other person's shït smell good.To paraphrase you, Fed was 'doing shït' in 2017, when he pulled out of the Paris Masters after the draw was made, because he wanted to rest.
Metro, 31 Oct 2017: ¤¤ The Swiss star announced on Sunday, following his victory over Juan Martin del Potro in the final of the Swiss Indoors in Basel, that he would not be taking part. The world No 2 wishes to rest ahead of the ATP World Tour Finals, thus maintaining his approach of prioritising his fitness above all else.¤¤
beard
Legend
This happens in slams too, just look at this year RG. Nadal was fresh as daisy and Thiem played like week one match.
Scheduling is imo biggest problem in tennis. So many times one player was ****ed up because of bad scheduling/bad weather. And big 3 have huge advantage against rest of the field, because its most times scheduled to suits them. And among big 3 Fed is class for him selves, with few exceptions he had best schedule possible.
On slams its very important to be in half that starts first, and its Fed who is almost always scheduled in this half. Wimbledon is great about that, champion plays first day...
Imo tennis should be indoor sport and scheduling to be on time for everyone everytime, not someone to finish today and other gus to play 2/3 days one match because of rain...
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah. Berdych and Nishikori both pulled out.
Nadal15thslam
Hall of Fame
Pure comedy from Fed fans when Rafa wins anything. So salty
I'll indulge in this non-debate, the premise of which appears to be players "doing ****" by withdrawing from tournaments. If the point is that others - not just Monfils - have done it, then that is a fact. A distinction might be drawn in comparing those who are prone to do so within tournaments at the last minute
( Nishikori and Monfils are examples ) and those who withdraw prior to the tournament. Exhaustion and / or injury are the obvious reasons for a withdrawal, and given the high impact nature of our sport, hardly surprising. Monfils had an understandable reason - the tournament director ought to be sacked. I suggest that no player fights to get to a semi-final and then decides to withdraw without good reason.
The posturing of fans is to be expected in a context of proving their specific hero to be above reproach or the disliked player to lack integrity, as is often the case on this board. But it seems a tad disingenuous to point fingers at others and overlook their own hero's record. Federer has rarely withdrawn from tournaments during his long career, but he has done so. Nadal had done so more often. For example from Queens, for 3 consecutive years. One of his most noteworthy withdrawals was for Wimbledon 2009, when he was the defending champion. I believe that he stated at the time that he did not think he could win it, so decided to withdraw. After his efforts during the clay season preceding Wimbledon, and the impact upon his body, it was understandable that he had to make this difficult decision. It can't have been easy to withdraw as a defending campion of a grand slam title.
" ....Rafael Nadal, the reigning Wimbledon champion, will not defend his All England Club title. The world No1 has been forced to pull out of the tournament with tendinitis, becoming only the fourth man in the modern era not to defendgning Wimbledon champion, will not defend his All England Club title. The world No1 has been forced to pull out of the tournament with tendinitis, becoming only the fourth man in the modern era not to defend his title at the All England Club.
"Not to play Wimbledon is one of the toughest decisions in my career but the decision was made easier because I don't feel ready to compete at 100%," said Nadal. "I don't feel like I'm ready to play in a tournament that is as important as Wimbledon."
Nadal, who announced his decision at Wimbledon this evening, lost his second exhibition match in consecutive days today, losing 4-6, 7-6 (8-6), 10-3 to the No 19 seed Stanislav Wawrinka in the BNP Paribas Fortis Tennis Classic at the Hurlingham Club in Fulham in his final attempt to find his fitness before the fortnight.
"I tried everything," said Nadal. "I tried hard in the last week to get in the best condition and today was my last test. I didn't feel terrible but I was not at my best."........."
www.theguardian.com
My point is that players are unlikely to compete hard and then withdraw without good reason. This is especially the case with the great players who have proven by their dedication that they have nothing but the utmost respect for their sport.
( Nishikori and Monfils are examples ) and those who withdraw prior to the tournament. Exhaustion and / or injury are the obvious reasons for a withdrawal, and given the high impact nature of our sport, hardly surprising. Monfils had an understandable reason - the tournament director ought to be sacked. I suggest that no player fights to get to a semi-final and then decides to withdraw without good reason.
The posturing of fans is to be expected in a context of proving their specific hero to be above reproach or the disliked player to lack integrity, as is often the case on this board. But it seems a tad disingenuous to point fingers at others and overlook their own hero's record. Federer has rarely withdrawn from tournaments during his long career, but he has done so. Nadal had done so more often. For example from Queens, for 3 consecutive years. One of his most noteworthy withdrawals was for Wimbledon 2009, when he was the defending champion. I believe that he stated at the time that he did not think he could win it, so decided to withdraw. After his efforts during the clay season preceding Wimbledon, and the impact upon his body, it was understandable that he had to make this difficult decision. It can't have been easy to withdraw as a defending campion of a grand slam title.
" ....Rafael Nadal, the reigning Wimbledon champion, will not defend his All England Club title. The world No1 has been forced to pull out of the tournament with tendinitis, becoming only the fourth man in the modern era not to defendgning Wimbledon champion, will not defend his All England Club title. The world No1 has been forced to pull out of the tournament with tendinitis, becoming only the fourth man in the modern era not to defend his title at the All England Club.
"Not to play Wimbledon is one of the toughest decisions in my career but the decision was made easier because I don't feel ready to compete at 100%," said Nadal. "I don't feel like I'm ready to play in a tournament that is as important as Wimbledon."
Nadal, who announced his decision at Wimbledon this evening, lost his second exhibition match in consecutive days today, losing 4-6, 7-6 (8-6), 10-3 to the No 19 seed Stanislav Wawrinka in the BNP Paribas Fortis Tennis Classic at the Hurlingham Club in Fulham in his final attempt to find his fitness before the fortnight.
"I tried everything," said Nadal. "I tried hard in the last week to get in the best condition and today was my last test. I didn't feel terrible but I was not at my best."........."
Rafael Nadal pulls out of Wimbledon with knee injury
Rafael Nadal, the reigning Wimbledon champion, has pulled out of the tournament due to tendinitis in the knees
www.theguardian.com
My point is that players are unlikely to compete hard and then withdraw without good reason. This is especially the case with the great players who have proven by their dedication that they have nothing but the utmost respect for their sport.
Born Again
Rookie
why lol
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Ofcourse
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
I guess djoker and feder have defended a clay title before...
Djokovic @rome 2014-15
Feder @hamburg 2004-05..
Did it make a joke of the result when Djokovic won the WTF's due to Federer giving him a WO. Nadal still has to play a final match.
Nadal isn't the first to receive a WO and I doubt he will be the last.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
I think youd be wrong to assume that 'no one' cares about Masters titles.
Only a Fed fan would proclaim this.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
sredna42
Hall of Fame
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Lol he looks just wow what can we say? Goodness. Out of words. RAFA ffs!It's very easy when you turn your Satan down
#StillTheMan
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
That was when Nadal won 5 FO. LOLNo, Federer defending a clay title defined weak era.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Not true. I wanted Rafa to win the FO.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Agut was fit & Wasnt tired at all
He wouldnt had pulled out
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Octoberina
Born Again
Rookie
So what you’re saying is that monfils should be altruistic here and give up his ranking points and prize money?
Subway Tennis
Legend
I suspect this fact was always a bigger deal for people who didn't like Nadal than people who did.
But no matter, it no longer applies anyway.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Masters win beating Evans, Pella, Fognini and Medvedev....LOL. As good as it gets.
I don't have a complaint as there is something to look forward as to who gets YE NO 1
I don't have a complaint as there is something to look forward as to who gets YE NO 1
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Medvedev is the world No.9.
Your post reminded me again that Fed hasn't played a top-10 player in Halle since 2006.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
Someone doesn't know their tennis... Fed defended Hamburg in 2005.
I think youll find Nadal didn't have 5 FO titles by then.
