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90's Clay would still be here talking up Sampras' competition on clay if he wasn't banned.LMAO.
Nuff said.
I like Nadal so I find it hard to attack him tbh tbhYour back at your peak with the Sampras game again lol.
We have that it in common. I just like Djokovic and Sampras so much more than you do lol.I like Nadal so I find it hard to attack him tbh tbh
I don't dislike either on a moral level, I'd be happy to meet them but I just say stuff to rile up their fanbaseWe have that it in common. I just like Djokovic and Sampras so much more than you do lol.
LolNow I know how Roddick fans feel
I think all fanbases are bad but in the last few months Nolefam have hit new highs i will not lie. But overall Federer fans are the biggest though. Sampras fans were quiet here since 90s clay left only untill the last few months.I don't dislike either on a moral level, I'd be happy to meet them but I just say stuff to rile up their fanbase
Lleyton Hewitt lolNo you don't. Federer isn't even gonna be clear cut GOAT of his own era, unlike Sampras. And he might even get overtaken in slam count by his main rivals, lmao.
I think it's because Nadal passing Federer doesn't bother me. He's quiet, timid and well spoken (in Spanish at least). He was an early bloomer and set the bar higher with Federer during crucial years I truly cared about tennis.I think all fanbases are bad but in the last few months Nolefam have hit new highs i will not lie. But overall Federer fans are the biggest though. Sampras fans were quiet here since 90s clay left only untill the last few months.
Nadal fans have even started to get a bit more vocal now too with the slam count and Nadal drawing closer to 20.
Lleyton Hewitt lol
5 losses in a row including a 7-5, 6-0 beatdown at the WTF lmao1-1 slam head to head and a 12 slam difference - compared to what 4-10 slam head to head and a 2 slam (soon to be 1?) difference. And then Djokovic as well, dominating Federer in slams.
Dude you don't understand their mindset. 90's Clay got behind Nadal of all players because he wanted Federer to suffer for passing Sampras lolDo Sampras fans still exist? I thought they got extinct like dinosaurs. They did not survive the arrival of the Big 3 comet. My theory is that most Sampras fans reconverted to Federer fans because Roger came sooner han Nadal or Djokovic, and so they accepted Federer sooner as Sampras' replacement in the GOAT debate.
Nadal never craved attention like Djokovic. Ever. He just played tennis and fished, no?@Sabratha
I thought that is why you like Nadal i was actually gonna write that since your a Hewitt fan and Nadal started playing well when Hewitt was still a factor. It will be used against Djokovic that he did not beat a prime/peak Fed the way Nadal did....
I think Djokovic can a piece of work but he does not get treated nicely at times too.. by the media...
The Fedal rivalry was crazy from 2005 to 2009.
Nadal is quiet and well reserved more so than Djokovic who is more vocal on issues but to each of their own i guess.
Sounds a lot like my experience.I think it's because Nadal passing Federer doesn't bother me. He's quiet, timid and well spoken (in Spanish at least). He was an early bloomer and set the bar higher with Federer during crucial years I truly cared about tennis.
Djokovic came along and was arrogant and obnoxious.. never took to him.
As for Sampras I am so used to annoying 90's Clay it's like second nature to me now.
True. But he also has not got some of the hate Djokovic got as well. Media used to circlate fake stories about Novak and jeering his DFs etc etc. Nadal is the better sportsman though IMO i am with you on that part.Nadal never craved attention like Djokovic. Ever. He just played tennis and fished, no?
Dude, Nadal had already won 16 Slams at age 31, including the Career Grand Slam (while Sampras never won Roland-Garros), Olympics (which Agassi won in Sampras era), and 16 more Masters 1000 than Sampras (which were relevant in Sampras era, as Agassi was the King of Masters 1000 before the arrival of the Big 3).I don't know is 4 Slams in 10 years dominance? Rafa would still have 0 WTFs.
Then there's the weeks at #1.
Nah I'd still have Sampras ahead if Nadal won on Sunday. Remember Sampras retired at 31.
I don't know is 4 Slams in 10 years dominance? Rafa would still have 0 WTFs.
Then there's the weeks at #1.
Nah I'd still have Sampras ahead if Nadal won on Sunday. Remember Sampras retired at 31.
Anybody who at this point puts Sampras ahead of Nadal (doesn't matter if Nadal wins this title or not) is a pathetic troll who doesn't deserve any attention.Dude, Nadal had already won 16 Slams at age 31, including the Career Grand Slam (while Sampras never won Roland-Garros), Olympics (which Agassi won in Sampras era), and 16 more Masters 1000 than Sampras (which were relevant in Sampras era, as Agassi was the King of Masters 1000 before the arrival of the Big 3).
Also, their difference is 14 vs. 18/19, not 14 vs 16. If Sampras retired at age 31 that's his problem, he didn't have the necessary competitive mentality to keep winning Majors and playing tennis after 31.
Following your logic, Borg is the perpetual GOAT because he retired at age 25 with 11 Grand Slams.
5 losses in a row including a 7-5, 6-0 beatdown at the WTF lmao
Also Corretja 1996 USO QF
Is it? Going 5 sets with a claycourt specialist and nearly losing?That was one of Sampras's bravest victories and he went on to win that slam.
If you're trying to mock Sampras and his fans, that's a poor match to choose.
Don't see Novak doing it.Federer fans will likely feel worse because Federer will go from No .1 on the slam list down to 3 faster than Sampras did
On a serious note though, this is incredible. At one point, I thought Federer's slam record was here to stay a very long time. Now we're looking at the very real possibility that he'll end at number 3 on the list even while he's playing or shortly after he's retired
Don't see Novak doing it.
Is it? Going 5 sets with a claycourt specialist and nearly losing?
90's Clay would still be here talking up Sampras' competition on clay if he wasn't banned.
Because he was downing coke during the changeovers. Hardly call that vomiting either.. Not with what I just personally went through.Dude was vomiting on court and could hardly move, and still went on to win the match - and the slam. You could hardly pick a worse match to make fun of Sampras in, actually.
Now things like losing to Bastl at Wimbledon, Kucera at the AO, Yzaga at the USO are more up for mockery.
Dupe account. He is on the other huge tennis forum though.You’ve got to admit sabby, 90’s was one of the funniest posters around here. Why was he banned?
i am not understanding this thread......what’s there to feel for fans of pete?
Corretja a claycourt specialist?Is it? Going 5 sets with a claycourt specialist and nearly losing?
Game ... most fans become so enamored by their own favorites that it causes them grief when a record of their favorite is broken. I like seeing records broken, regardless of who is holding it, so I really look forward to seeing the weeks at No. 1 and total slam record of Federer being broken.
With Djokovic's injury, I don't know if he's going to hold on to No .1 and go on to break the record but should Nadal win his next 2 matches at the US Open, Federer's total slam record will be broken, no doubt about that.
Sampras fans weren't passed in the slam race until Wimbledon 2009, when Fed bagged #15. Even if Nadal wins on Sunday, he will still be one short of Fed's record.
Fact is, Sampras won less Slams than Federer. It doesn’t matter one bit how the Slams he didn’t win were distributed between other players, because it wasn’t within his powers.No you don't. Federer isn't even gonna be clear cut GOAT of his own era, unlike Sampras. And he might even get overtaken in slam count by his main rivals, lmao.
We will never know how mediocre Hewitt fan feels tho'
Fact is, Sampras won less Slams than Federer. It doesn’t matter one bit how the Slams he didn’t win were distributed between other players, because it wasn’t within his powers.
At least most of Federer’s losses were against fellow ATGs. That is a positive, not a negative, no matter how much you try to suggest the opposite.
Also after being 25 Sampras won only Wimbledon, apart from his last tournament, the 2002 US Open. That is no dominance. A common excuse is that he only had the target of Emerson’s 12 titles, and after that he lost motivation. But then why was his APPROACH to that so slow?
He had...
10 Slam titles at Wimbledon 1997
11 Slam titles at Wimbledon 1998
12 Slam titles at Wimbledon 1999
13 Slam titles at Wimbledon 2000
If he would have been dominant and only lost motivation after his 13th title, then he clearly would have won at least a few hardcourt Slams during that time.
And we don’t even need to talk about the value of Emerson’s record. It was during the Pro/Amateur split, and he would have won like 5 Open Slams at most, while Laver and Rosewall would have easily won over 14 (but not 20 though).
Sampras was never the GOAT, and I say this as a fan during his great days in my childhood/youth.
Probably how mediocre Murray fans feel.We will never know how mediocre Hewitt fan feels tho'
Sampras somewhat wanted to introduce this concept when communicating he would chase Emerson’s record. And of course the goal was that he himself would be recognized then as the greatest ever.GOAT wasn't even a thing in Sampras' day...GOAT is a by-product of the more recent need for people to classify things as black/white, and label it with an emoji. I'm right, you're wrong. Mine's better than yours, blah, blah, blah. Makes me sick...
Probably how mediocre Murray fans feel.