Old Gamma vs New Gamma

[sstchur]

Looking for feedback from those who play / have played with Gamma racquets (I know there are a handful on these forums).

I've never used the G325 but hear it is one of the best ever made. I did mess around with (though, never owned) a Tradition 18 way way back (about 12 years ago). I regret not buying one then b/c they are /impossible/ to find these days.

Anyway, I currently use the T-7, which I like, but which is just slightly less than perfect for me (not sure -- head size, flex, something isn't quite right even though I generally really like it).

Anyway, I got a good deal on the Tour 330X so I bought one (it's on the way). I wonder what it is most similar to from the old line of Gamma racquets? Would the 330X be like a Tradition 18, a G325, something else?

Actually, that's my question in general: what racquets that Gamma still produces today are most similar to the Tradition 18 and the G325?

Any thoughts on this appreciated.

 

[ced]

Try the 330X

Looking for feedback from those who play / have played with Gamma racquets (I know there are a handful on these forums).

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Anyway, I currently use the T-7, which I like, but which is just slightly less than perfect for me (not sure -- head size, flex, something isn't quite right even though I generally really like it).
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Anyway, I got a good deal on the Tour 330X so I bought one (it's on the way). I wonder what it is most similar to from the old line of Gamma racquets? Would the 330X be like a Tradition 18, a G325, something else?
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Actually, that's my question in general: what racquets that Gamma still produces today are most similar to the Tradition 18 and the G325?

Any thoughts on this appreciated.

You will not regret the purchase of the 330X ...... I think its the best Gamma yet. I've played the G325 (which I loved) and the T7 both fine sticks, and think the 330X tops them both. The 330X brings a bit more 'pop' to the game ..... in fact I had to use a multi/poly hybrid to tame it a bit.

One thing about the 330X ... it definitely plays with more flex (less stiff) than it is rated ... had I not known the specs I would have guessed its flex at 60 and not the rated 66 .

 

[sstchur]

You will not regret the purchase of the 330X ...... I think its the best Gamma yet. I've played the G325 (which I loved) and the T7 both fine sticks, and think the 330X tops them both. The 330X brings a bit more 'pop' to the game ..... in fact I had to use a multi/poly hybrid to tame it a bit.

One thing about the 330X ... it definitely plays with more flex (less stiff) than it is rated ... had I not known the specs I would have guessed its flex at 60 and not the rated 66 .

Awesome, I'm excited to give it a go. I thought the T7 was more of a player's frame than it apparently is. I wasn't concerned with the 100sq in head size really, but I do seems to like something a tad smaller. But the T7 has such a flexy rating, that I figured it'd be super control oriented (which it is I guess, somewhat). I dunno, some days I love the T7, but I feel like it's just "off" a little bit.

Here's to hoping the 330X is my sliver bullet.

Any thoughts on how it compares to the 320X?

 

[ced]

Awesome, I'm excited to give it a go. I thought the T7 was more of a player's frame than it apparently is. I wasn't concerned with the 100sq in head size really, but I do seems to like something a tad smaller. But the T7 has such a flexy rating, that I figured it'd be super control oriented (which it is I guess, somewhat). I dunno, some days I love the T7, but I feel like it's just "off" a little bit.

Here's to hoping the 330X is my sliver bullet.

Any thoughts on how it compares to the 320X?

I thought the T7 played more like a low-powered 'tweener' racquet... it was a very good baseliner stick and it certainly had more 'pop' than the G325.

The 330X is a G325 on steroids... still very controllable and very much a players racquet , geat for serve and volley, but I would suggest you need to choose your strings carefully.

I have not hit with the 320X, but it would appear to be a little more powerful than the 330X, probably more like a T7 with power ...... I found the 330X and quit trying anything else (and I've tried about everything in the last 24 months)

The Gamma QC is great, my two were purchased from different places at different times and the stock weight and balance are spot on ... something not usually the case with products from the Big 3.

 

[sstchur]

I thought the T7 played more like a low-powered 'tweener' racquet... it was a very good baseliner stick and it certainly had more 'pop' than the G325.

The 330X is a G325 on steroids... still very controllable and very much a players racquet , geat for serve and volley, but I would suggest you need to choose your strings carefully.

I have not hit with the 320X, but it would appear to be a little more powerful than the 330X, probably more like a T7 with power ...... I found the 330X and quit trying anything else (and I've tried about everything in the last 24 months)

The Gamma QC is great, my two were purchased from different places at different times and the stock weight and balance are spot on ... something not usually the case with products from the Big 3.

In terms of strings, what do you suggest? I typically use a basic synthetic gut ( Forten Sweet 17g) at around 60lbs or so (give or take a few depending on my mood).

I've stayed away from poly b/c I hear it is harsh and I do get some arm pain when serving.

 

[ced]

strings for 330X

In terms of strings, what do you suggest? I typically use a basic synthetic gut ( Forten Sweet 17g) at around 60lbs or so (give or take a few depending on my mood).

I've stayed away from poly b/c I hear it is harsh and I do get some arm pain when serving.

Well to start with I prefer a lower tension than 60 , no matter what I'm using. I found Topspin some few months ago and have been pleased with both their ENERGY (a multi) and CYBER BLUE (poly) .... thru trial and error I arrived at a tension of 53 for the mains (multi) and 50 for the crosses(poly) and really like the stringbed feel and response.

In the past I've usually hit only full-bed multi's (always >57 ... and usually with the crosses pulled 2# tighter than the mains). I would think any good multi would play well in the 330X, but I would definitely start with a lower than mid-range tension (say 55-57) until I sorted out how the racquet plays. Forten sweet is a decent syn as is Gosen Micro and both are very reasonable. Pro Supex Maxim Touch is a low cost multi you might want to try, as is Unique Tournafibre Irradiated. But don't overlook the blends, since using the multi/poly hybrid it would be hard for me to go back unless i developed some discomfort problems.

I've never had a moments problem (arm,wrist,elbow) with Cyber Blue .... but I would not play with it or any poly in the mains. I did once with Big Ace and did feel some discomfort .... so far in the crosses at low tension thin guage polys are no bother to me.

Good luck with your 330X, i hope you are as pleased with it as I am with mine.

 

[sstchur]

Well to start with I prefer a lower tension than 60 , no matter what I'm using. I found Topspin some few months ago and have been pleased with both their ENERGY (a multi) and CYBER BLUE (poly) .... thru trial and error I arrived at a tension of 53 for the mains (multi) and 50 for the crosses(poly) and really like the stringbed feel and response.

In the past I've usually hit only full-bed multi's (always >57 ... and usually with the crosses pulled 2# tighter than the mains). I would think any good multi would play well in the 330X, but I would definitely start with a lower than mid-range tension (say 55-57) until I sorted out how the racquet plays. Forten sweet is a decent syn as is Gosen Micro and both are very reasonable. Pro Supex Maxim Touch is a low cost multi you might want to try, as is Unique Tournafibre Irradiated. But don't overlook the blends, since using the multi/poly hybrid it would be hard for me to go back unless i developed some discomfort problems.

I've never had a moments problem (arm,wrist,elbow) with Cyber Blue .... but I would not play with it or any poly in the mains. I did once with Big Ace and did feel some discomfort .... so far in the crosses at low tension thin guage polys are no bother to me.

Good luck with your 330X, i hope you are as pleased with it as I am with mine.

Thanks for the information! I'll definitely let you know once I get a chance to try it out.

 

[Captain Haddock]

The T7 appears to be from the same mold as the old G310, but I don't know if the composition is also braided graphite like the 310. The specs are very similar (the T7 is listed as a little more flexible). The G310 is a good frame, but it needs a bit of customization because it is too light and too headlight for its flex level. A strip of lead tape on each side of the frame under the bumper (the length of the entire bumper) and a leather grip (which adds 15 grams to the handle) transform the racquet into something between a Pro Staff 6.0 95 and a POG OS. Nice cosmetics, and a well built braided frame.

 

[Conquistador]

Well to start with I prefer a lower tension than 60 , no matter what I'm using. I found Topspin some few months ago and have been pleased with both their ENERGY (a multi) and CYBER BLUE (poly) .... thru trial and error I arrived at a tension of 53 for the mains (multi) and 50 for the crosses(poly) and really like the stringbed feel and response.

In the past I've usually hit only full-bed multi's (always >57 ... and usually with the crosses pulled 2# tighter than the mains). I would think any good multi would play well in the 330X, but I would definitely start with a lower than mid-range tension (say 55-57) until I sorted out how the racquet plays. Forten sweet is a decent syn as is Gosen Micro and both are very reasonable. Pro Supex Maxim Touch is a low cost multi you might want to try, as is Unique Tournafibre Irradiated. But don't overlook the blends, since using the multi/poly hybrid it would be hard for me to go back unless i developed some discomfort problems.

I've never had a moments problem (arm,wrist,elbow) with Cyber Blue .... but I would not play with it or any poly in the mains. I did once with Big Ace and did feel some discomfort .... so far in the crosses at low tension thin guage polys are no bother to me.

Good luck with your 330X, i hope you are as pleased with it as I am with mine.

One of the best players at my club uses one of them. The frame is unreal. I was amazed at how stable the frame seemd. Gamma's new tour series is starting to take off with the players over 5.0....Im just amazed at the quality of the new frames.

 

[sstchur]

One of the best players at my club uses one of them. The frame is unreal. I was amazed at how stable the frame seemd. Gamma's new tour series is starting to take off with the players over 5.0....Im just amazed at the quality of the new frames.

I wonder how much market share Gamma actually has? I always just assumed it was negligible since no pros are endorsed by Gamma, and I still suspect their market share is basically nil, but could the tour series be the start of something for them?

Can't wait to try mine out. It will be interesting to compare it to the T-7, which I've been using for a while now.

 

[sstchur]

Good luck with your 330X, i hope you are as pleased with it as I am with mine.

Hey ced: what grip size do you use? The 330X I got is 4 3/8 which is too small for me. I used a heat shrink sleeve to build it up, but if I switch to this racquet (and it looks like I might), I might prefer an actual 4 1/2.

 

[ced]

4 3/8

Hey ced: what grip size do you use? The 330X I got is 4 3/8 which is too small for me. I used a heat shrink sleeve to build it up, but if I switch to this racquet (and it looks like I might), I might prefer an actual 4 1/2.

Mine are all 4 3/8" .... been using that size grip for about 3 years now, having downsized from 4 1/2 ..... with the heat shrink and an overgrip it should be no problem for you. That should put at at about 12 oz ..... mine are 11.9 with overgrips and strings.

 

[sstchur]

Mine are all 4 3/8" .... been using that size grip for about 3 years now, having downsized from 4 1/2 ..... with the heat shrink and an overgrip it should be no problem for you. That should put at at about 12 oz ..... mine are 11.9 with overgrips and strings.

My digital kitchen scale actually reported 12 1/8 unstrung (but with heat shrink sleeve + overgrip. I didn't weight it since I restrung it, but I'm guessing that's another 1/2 oz or so. Doesn't that seem kinda heavy to you?

But I didn't mind when playing with it.

 

[sstchur]

My digital kitchen scale actually reported 12 1/8 unstrung (but with heat shrink sleeve + overgrip. I didn't weight it since I restrung it, but I'm guessing that's another 1/2 oz or so. Doesn't that seem kinda heavy to you?

But I didn't mind when playing with it.

Just re-weighed it: 12 5/8 oz (359g).

That is with shrink sleeve, original gamma hi-tech grip over that, and dunlop overgrip over that. Forten sweet 17 and a rubber band as dampener.

Maybe my kitchen scale is off... dunno, haven't ever really questioned it before.

 

[Gasquetrules]

The 330 sounds interesting...

I'm sure Gamma is all about providing racquets that the majority of players will buy. And right now that means making something similar to the Babolats that Nadal and company use. I figured that was what the T series and the new 330 and 320 were all about. But I could be wrong.

I own five G325s and four Tradition 18s. I also have a G310 and a G260 (a high-quality tweener). I compete with the G325s.

I'd like to see Gamma keep a frame like the G325 in production instead of constantly revamping their product line and dropping this type... only to bring it back again when it is demanded. Yeah, make some tweener sticks, too,and some Babolat clones. But keep a thin-beamed, 12-ounce, 95 sq. inch, distinctly headlight frame in production.

The only racquets I have that rival the G325 in playability are a couple of Yonex R-22s. I'd play matches with them, except they get a bit heavy after a tough set, especially on the serve. I'm not a big guy. IMO, the G325 has all the power a decent player could want. Just add livlier string if you want more pop.

 

[sstchur]

I'm sure Gamma is all about providing racquets that the majority of players will buy. And right now that means making something similar to the Babolats that Nadal and company use. I figured that was what the T series and the new 330 and 320 were all about. But I could be wrong.

I own five G325s and four Tradition 18s. I also have a G310 and a G260 (a high-quality tweener). I compete with the G325s.

I'd like to see Gamma keep a frame like the G325 in production instead of constantly revamping their product line and dropping this type... only to bring it back again when it is demanded. Yeah, make some tweener sticks, too,and some Babolat clones. But keep a thin-beamed, 12-ounce, 95 sq. inch, distinctly headlight frame in production.

The only racquets I have that rival the G325 in playability are a couple of Yonex R-22s. I'd play matches with them, except they get a bit heavy after a tough set, especially on the serve. I'm not a big guy. IMO, the G325 has all the power a decent player could want. Just add livlier string if you want more pop.

Gasquetrules: Have you played with the 330X at all and had a chance to see how it compares to your G325s?

FYI: I talked to Gamma on the phone the other day and asked about G325 and why it was still on the web site (wondering if they were planning to keep it around or start producing it again). He told me that the web site needs to be updated and that no, they have no plans to reintroduce the G325.

 

[Jsa2u]

anyone care to give a description or mini review of the gamma g310??? I am debating on getting one after seeing a good deal. thanks