Rafa fans, do you actually not want Novak to play USO

[Sudacafan]

Look, this female tennis player managed to change her citizenship in response to the Wimbledon ban. If she could do it, so could Medvedev and others:

Russian Player Changes Nationality to Avoid Wimbledon Ban – Report - The Moscow Times

A Russian tennis player has avoided a Wimbledon ban on all competitors from her country by changing her nationality to Georgian, according to a report in The Times newspaper.

www.themoscowtimes.com

I appreciate the effort you did in bringing this story up.

I copy a part of the article below:
"A Russian tennis player has avoided a Wimbledon ban on all competitors from her country by changing her nationality to Georgian, according to a report in The Times newspaper.
Natela Dzalamidze, a 29-year-old doubles player ranked No. 44 in the world, will compete in the women's doubles with Serbia's Aleksandra Krunic when the tournament starts on June 27."

I never heard about this woman, but anyway, didn't you notice this formerly Russian player last name having Georgian origins, and that being a particular feature that could have helped to speed up her case, that could not be projected to everybody's situation?

 

[Humphrey20133]

Russians and Belarusians could also play if they took citizenship of other countries, which Rybakina did to and gain the women's singles title in Wimbledon. Medvedev could have had Monaco citizenship a long time ago, Azarenka American citizenship, etc.

Educate yourself. Both situations are similar.

Out of all the Djokocult's ridiculous bs about this situation, this comment has to be one of the worst ones to come out of it all. Just tone deafness and fantasy land stuff.

 

[Enceladus]

That’s enough dross, on to the ignore list you go love

You don't have the strength to face the facts, there is an example of a Russian tennis player who changed his citizenship in response to the Wimbledon ban. The dogma of you and other members that there was no way for Medvedev and other Russian tennis players to participate in Wimbledon 2022 has fallen!

Dzalamidze on swapping Russia for Georgia – DW – 06/28/2022

Russian-born Natela Dzalamidze changed her tennis allegiance in time to compete for Georgia at Wimbledon. She denies having broken any rules or any intention of reverting to Russia when the tournament is over.

amp.dw.com

 

[Enceladus]

I appreciate the effort you did in bringing this story up.

I copy a part of the article below:
"A Russian tennis player has avoided a Wimbledon ban on all competitors from her country by changing her nationality to Georgian, according to a report in The Times newspaper.
Natela Dzalamidze, a 29-year-old doubles player ranked No. 44 in the world, will compete in the women's doubles with Serbia's Aleksandra Krunic when the tournament starts on June 27."

I never heard about this woman, but anyway, didn't you notice this formerly Russian player last name having Georgian origins, and that being a particular feature that could have helped to speed up her case, that could not be projected to everybody's situation?

And you think that Medvedev's fame and achieved results are not special circumstances that would speed up the process of accepting citizenship? We're not talking about a western country, dude, but countries where anything can be done for a bribe.

 

[Sudacafan]

You don't have the strength to face the facts, there is an example of a Russian tennis player who changed his citizenship in response to the Wimbledon ban. The dogma of you and other members that there was no way for Medvedev and other Russian tennis players to participate in Wimbledon 2022 has fallen!

Dzalamidze on swapping Russia for Georgia – DW – 06/28/2022

Russian-born Natela Dzalamidze changed her tennis allegiance in time to compete for Georgia at Wimbledon. She denies having broken any rules or any intention of reverting to Russia when the tournament is over.

amp.dw.com

Look up for Dzalamidze name origin, and you may have learned something.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1538604408384233482

"Dzalamidze was born in Moscow on February 27, 1993. It is unclear from limited biographical information what her exact family connection is to Georgia but both her first name and surname are of Georgian origin"

 

[PUSB]

I’ve seen a lot of assumptions that Rafa fans don’t want Novak at the USO to increase Rafa chances/not tie the slam race. I for one want Novak to participate and don’t really think it affects Rafa’s chances that much. Although I at the same time think that it wouldn’t diminish Rafa winning the USO if Novak was there. So what’s your take?

I want Djokovic there. I like Novak. He is a good guy being treated harshly by a strange Us regime. I would like a Nadal v Djokovic tear up on ashe. Been way too long and i fancy Nadals chances if he plays well.
Djokovic adds fun to an event. He is watchable even if i usually want him to lose. No Djokovic is a blow to tennis.

 

[Enceladus]

Out of all the Djokocult's ridiculous bs about this situation, this comment has to be one of the worst ones to come out of it all. Just tone deafness and fantasy land stuff.

You're late dude, your dogma has fallen:

Dzalamidze on swapping Russia for Georgia – DW – 06/28/2022

Russian-born Natela Dzalamidze changed her tennis allegiance in time to compete for Georgia at Wimbledon. She denies having broken any rules or any intention of reverting to Russia when the tournament is over.

amp.dw.com

 

[PUSB]

Why on Earth would you want Djokovic to play the USO as a Rafa fan? Rafa has little to no chance against Djokovic on HC.

And what do you base that on given he beat Medvedev in a Major HC final eho only months before beat Djokovic with ease. and he also beat Djokovic on night time clay which is worse for Nadal than any surface other than indoors

 

[PUSB]

Djokovic is more relevant at the French Open than he is at New York.

In New York he keeps losing to non-goat contenders year in and year out.

That should answer your question

Good point. Has he ever lost to a Medvedev Nishikori Murray PCB at RG?

 

[helterskelter]

true, but Djoko could’ve played AO22 had he wanted to. It was his decision at the end of the day.
Just like it is his decision to have an up to date passport and a valid visa

But it wasn’t Rublef decision to not play W22. You can’t just denounce your citizenship of your home country and just get a new passport else just like that.

Fair enough to make that distinction for Wimbledon 2022, because the time frame was too short. But by that logic, Wimbledon 2023 would be an open tournament whether Russian citizens can play or not, because a year is long enough for an athlete to get citizenship elsewhere.

 

[Enceladus]

Look up for Dzalamidze name origin, and you may have learned something.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1538604408384233482

"Dzalamidze was born in Moscow on February 27, 1993. It is unclear from limited biographical information what her exact family connection is to Georgia but both her first name and surname are of Georgian origin"

For your information, Dzalamidze expected that more Russian tennis players didn't change their citizenship. It is mentioned in the second article I linked to. And also this:

"There was also a line stating that any player that wanted to change nationality had to do so before June 3."

 

[PUSB]

19 sets to 0 on hard court since that USO final 9 years ago.

If they meet, it'll be 90%-10% Djokovic. Nadal has to hope Zverev or Medvedev stops Djokovic in the quarterfinal or semifinal and then crumbles in the final against him. It'd be his only hope.

How many of those sets been in america outside 2015/2016 when Nadal was as hopeless as Djokovic 2017?

 

[Sudacafan]

Fair enough to make that distinction for Wimbledon 2022, because the time frame was too short. But by that logic, Wimbledon 2023 would be an open tournament whether Russian citizens can play or not, because a year is long enough for an athlete to get citizenship elsewhere.

As per we know, I believe that Wimbledon ban of Russians and Belarusians has no expiration date. These players should be shopping for a non banned citizenship if the war is not over by then.

 

[Sudacafan]

You're late dude, your dogma has fallen:

Dzalamidze on swapping Russia for Georgia – DW – 06/28/2022

Russian-born Natela Dzalamidze changed her tennis allegiance in time to compete for Georgia at Wimbledon. She denies having broken any rules or any intention of reverting to Russia when the tournament is over.

amp.dw.com

Thanks for the article. As per what it says, we learned she has a Georgian father. And that she already had a Georgian passport for the past six years.
This did not help at all in her case. Sure? Lucky girl.



"Despite being born on the Russian island of Sakhalin, north of Japan, Dzalamidze is no longer representing the country of her birth and that of her mother, but rather Georgia, from where her father hails."

Dzalamidze, who has held a Georgian passport for the past six years, began the process of officially switching her sporting allegiance soon after the invasion, submitting her documents to the Women's Tennis Association (WTA) at the end of May. The WTA confirmed her change of status on June 6, one week before the registration deadline for Wimbledon."

 

[Enceladus]

Thanks for the article. As per what it says, we learned she has a Georgian father. And that she already had a Georgian passport for the past six years.
This did not help at all in her case. Sure? Lucky girl.



"Despite being born on the Russian island of Sakhalin, north of Japan, Dzalamidze is no longer representing the country of her birth and that of her mother, but rather Georgia, from where her father hails."

Dzalamidze, who has held a Georgian passport for the past six years, began the process of officially switching her sporting allegiance soon after the invasion, submitting her documents to the Women's Tennis Association (WTA) at the end of May. The WTA confirmed her change of status on June 6, one week before the registration deadline for Wimbledon."

She already had a passport before, that's a fact, but the information doesn't indicate how long the process of receiving Georgian citizenship took. And we are talking about an unknown female tennis player, about whom you obviously learned for the first time today. Medvedev is a Grand Slam champion, the current World No.1, it would be much easier for him. It is evident that if there were more bans for Russian tennis players, they would start doing something about it, which Rublev and Kasatkina confirmed.

 

[insideguy]

I don’t really know how easy it is for players to just change nationality. I know some have for various reasons. Was never clear why sharapova and Azerrenka didn’t or haven’t. Probably always be a mystery which we won’t ever understand

 

[L4S10s]

I want Novak there, because....I'm going there this year gaaad deeeem eeeet

 

[octobrina10]

She already had a passport before, that's a fact, but the information doesn't indicate how long the process of receiving Georgian citizenship took. And we are talking about an unknown female tennis player, about whom you obviously learned for the first time today. Medvedev is a Grand Slam champion, the current World No.1, it would be much easier for him. It is evident that if there were more bans for Russian tennis players, they would start doing something about it, which Rublev and Kasatkina confirmed.

Here is another article to educate you:

Natela Dzalamidze explains reasons behind switching nationality from Russian before Wimbledon

The 29-year-old has a Georgian father and Russian mother who both still live in Moscow.

www.japantimes.co.jp

Excerpts: ¤¤ Natela Dzalamidze, who switched from representing Russia to playing for Georgia on the eve of Wimbledon, said Thursday she had always intended to change her nationality to boost her dreams of taking part in the Olympics.
The 29-year-old has a Georgian father and Russian mother. Both still live in Moscow. …
She insisted, however, that as a holder of two passports, the switch was already in her plans with the 2024 Olympics in Paris looming.
“I was thinking of doing it by the end of the year,” Dzalamidze said. “It was not like I was applying for a new passport — I have had a Georgian passport for a long time.
“But Russian players are banned and I thought why do I have to lose an opportunity to compete here?
“I am 29 now. How many more years am I going to play tennis?” ¤¤

So, she didn't change her citizenship ahead of Wimbledon, because she has been a holder of two passports for a long time (Russia allows dual citizenship), she just switched from representing Russia to playing for Georgia. She only had to inform the Russian tennis Federation, the Georgian tennis federation and WTA. It probably took only a few days to inform them.

 

[Adv. Edberg]

This is a very bad fan attitude towards tennis and the sport as a whole. This is because you are declaring that hating a certain player is more important to you than the integrity of the sport.

no. But Djoko is a dangerous fool. Before the days of the internet he’d be known as the village idiot and be harmless. Now he’s got millions of followers and his crazy anti science and conspiracy theories will spread.

 

[UnderratedSlam]

You don't have the strength to face the facts, there is an example of a Russian tennis player who changed his citizenship in response to the Wimbledon ban. The dogma of you and other members that there was no way for Medvedev and other Russian tennis players to participate in Wimbledon 2022 has fallen!

Dzalamidze on swapping Russia for Georgia – DW – 06/28/2022

Russian-born Natela Dzalamidze changed her tennis allegiance in time to compete for Georgia at Wimbledon. She denies having broken any rules or any intention of reverting to Russia when the tournament is over.

amp.dw.com

Because changing citizenship is like changing shirts...

 

[Mark Anderson]

I’ve seen a lot of assumptions that Rafa fans don’t want Novak at the USO to increase Rafa chances/not tie the slam race. I for one want Novak to participate and don’t really think it affects Rafa’s chances that much. Although I at the same time think that it wouldn’t diminish Rafa winning the USO if Novak was there. So what’s your take?

Anti vaxxers suck, they cause disease and suffering everywhere and play the angel card of freedumb.

 

[Turning Pro]

Could of been 5-3, 3-1 bud.