Rafa: Strokes of Genius

what is the true secret to his greatness?

you have the floor. have at it and have fun.


what really makes him so great at what he does?
 
in your own words how has he been able to acquire the highest winning percentage in the history of the sport?

what is his greatest competitive advantage that makes him so unique to the competitive arena?
 

vive le beau jeu !

Talk Tennis Guru
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dudeski

Hall of Fame
What makes Nadal win over other top players is his perfection of gamesmanship. His fans like to call it mental strength.
 

LuckyR

Legend
The uncanny ability to provoke resentment and jealousy among the general public (male) as well as desire also among the general public (female).
 

THE FIGHTER

Hall of Fame
The uncanny ability to provoke resentment and jealousy among the general public (male) as well as desire also among the general public (female).

Given the thread title and the direction this thread is headed, im certain he is desired by both sexes
 
I think was sets Nadal apart besides his athletic ability is his mental focus. This is key to his success. I think it has been mentioned before that he approaches every point the same way through a match. He doesn't think too much about repercussions, just concentrates on each point individually.
 
I like the way he is able to respond to his falls. he often responds to them with great triumphs.

that is a key for any athlete in any sport.
 
so far mods have removed 3 of my threads in a matter of hours.

so this is an experiment. I wanted to see how quickly they move to get rid of this one also even though there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. nobody has broken any rules and people are being civil.
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
so far mods have removed 3 of my threads in a matter of hours.

so this is an experiment. I wanted to see how quickly they move to get rid of this one also even though there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. nobody has broken any rules and people are being civil.

First off, don't post threads to P.O. the mods. No one likes that. It's just disrespectful.

Secondly, let's look at your threads. One became a troll fest. Another was a troll thread. I dunno about the third.
 
First off, don't post threads to P.O. the mods. No one likes that. It's just disrespectful.

Secondly, let's look at your threads. One became a troll fest. Another was a troll thread. I dunno about the third.


let us know when you are finished sucking up to the mods.



its a troll era mate. trolls are infesting every damn thing and they are literally raining from all 4 corners of the globe.



its people like me, you, and general forehand of doom that are keeping them in check to some extent.
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
let us know when you are finished sucking up to the mods.

Err, I'm not sucking up. I'm telling you it's disrespectful, not just to them but to the whole forum.

If you want respect, you have to earn it.

its a troll era mate. trolls are infesting every damn thing and they are literally raining from all 4 corners of the globe.

That's no excuse. There are plenty of threads that haven't been removed, regardless of troll presence.

its people like me, you, and general forehand of doom that are keeping them in check to some extent.

Don't group me with you, and don't bring up FoD for that matter. FoD and I have very different calculi, and I counter-troll less than he does.

You, well, you don't counter-troll, really. You may think you do, but you don't.
 

Ramesh848

Banned
so far mods have removed 3 of my threads in a matter of hours.

so this is an experiment. I wanted to see how quickly they move to get rid of this one also even though there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. nobody has broken any rules and people are being civil.

Clay Death-

Does your posts/threads contribute to Tennis community?

I believe TT mods are pretty much flexible regarding rules and policies.

MTF mods would have thrown you out permanently for 3 trolling threads, which you obviously deserve. Here they just deleted.



Do grow up now.
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
Clay Death-

Does your posts/threads contribute to Tennis community?

I believe TT mods are pretty much flexible regarding rules and policies.

MTF mods would have thrown you out permanently for 3 trolling threads, which you obviously deserve. Here they just deleted.



Do grow up now.

^Ramesh, well put. :)
 

Ramesh848

Banned
^Ramesh, well put. :)

Personally I like MTF because they are very much strict regarding rules and policies though too much advertisements.

Clay Death is former member of MTF, I was lucky to witness his great posts till they banned him. ;)

He is repeating same trolling format on TT also, but I believe they aren't blind.
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
Personally I like MTF because they are very much strict regarding rules and policies though too much advertisements.

Clay Death is former member of MTF, I was lucky to witness his great posts till they banned him. ;)

He is repeating same trolling format on TT also, but I believe they aren't blind.

I think his style is outdated. Perhaps he should read this handy guide?

By the end, he'll be a champion. ;)

http://www.solomid.net/guide/view/32197-generic-build-guide-by-bartibus
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
Hope he'll read and follow the tricks.

Now I am pretty much bored reading, "you've the floor and have a fun" ;)

I'm more annoyed that he randomly creates threads that are junk. Some of them are alright topics-wise, but because his OP is so simple, the thread is non-interesting.
 

Ramesh848

Banned
I'm more annoyed that he randomly creates threads that are junk. Some of them are alright topics-wise, but because his OP is so simple, the thread is non-interesting.

This is just start, he's capable of something you cannot even imagine.

TT Policies are too flexible, that also reduces quality of forum.
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
This is just start, he's capable of something you cannot even imagine.

TT Policies are too flexible, that also reduces quality of forum.

I disagree. I hate ignore lists, because I may be tempted to read posts anyway; and I don't like a whole page of ignoring posts--and, often, ignore lists are the best way to ignore trolls. That being said, some posters do get better, and trolls used to at least be humorous and good at trolling.

It must be a generational thing. These new young'uns just never learned how to troll properly.
 

Ramesh848

Banned
I disagree. I hate ignore lists, because I may be tempted to read posts anyway; and I don't like a whole page of ignoring posts--and, often, ignore lists are the best way to ignore trolls. That being said, some posters do get better, and trolls used to at least be humorous and good at trolling.

It must be a generational thing. These new young'uns just never learned how to troll properly.

There is very good mechanism against trolls but needs of PMs-

1) First give Yellow card which is warning, which expires after 365 days.

2) If poster repeats same during 365 days period, give Red card with 1 day ban.

3) If he/she repeats again during expiry period of First Red card, give 2nd Red card with ban of 3 days.

If poster repeats again and again they gives you Red cards with ban of duration 7 days, 15 days, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, 1 year and 2 years.

Separate infractions for trolling, baiting, Personal attacks, player bashing are given.

One needs 15 Red cards to get perm. ban.

Clay Death already have full filled this criteria at MTF, that's why I am saying it's just start.

15 Red cards is not easy task, even for troll also.
consistencconsistency in trolling.


I believe TT needs such mechanism to deal with trolls.
 

Backspin1183

Talk Tennis Guru
Nothing motivates Nadal more than to prove his doubters wrong. His entire career has been about proving his doubters wrong.

They said his style was too physical and he wouldn't have a long career. He has had a long and highly successful career and still has a few more years to compete at the highest level.

They said he was a clay courter and wouldn't do great on other surfaces. He went on to play 5 Wimbledon finals and defeated prime Roger Federer in what is now known as the best tennis match of all time.

After missing 7 months to injury, they said he wouldn't be the same again. He came back to have one of his best seasons.

After the humiliating Rd1 defeat at Wimbledon, they said he and Federer were no longer the best players of the game. That they were now behind Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic. How does Nadal respond? He goes on a tear in the NA hard court swing, playing like a video game character, rarely making an error and hitting winners at will. Wins the Montreal-Cincy-USO triplet.
Takes back the ATP #1 ranking.
He's a legend.
 
fantastic post general backspin. by far the best post of the day.

100% spot on. he really does respond well to his falls that are a part and parcel of any athlete.
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
There is very good mechanism against trolls but needs of PMs-

1) First give Yellow card which is warning, which expires after 365 days.

2) If poster repeats same during 365 days period, give Red card with 1 day ban.

3) If he/she repeats again during expiry period of First Red card, give 2nd Red card with ban of 3 days.

If poster repeats again and again they gives you Red cards with ban of duration 7 days, 15 days, 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, 1 year and 2 years.

Separate infractions for trolling, baiting, Personal attacks, player bashing are given.

One needs 15 Red cards to get perm. ban.

Clay Death already have full filled this criteria at MTF, that's why I am saying it's just start.

15 Red cards is not easy task, even for troll also.
consistencconsistency in trolling.


I believe TT needs such mechanism to deal with trolls.

I mean, it depends how strictly the standards are enforced. If super-strictly, I (and many others) would have been banned long ago. :(

But I like the infraction system a lot. It's what was used in TW when I played.
 
I start a thread about tennis and it takes 20 seconds for the legless, gutless, and toothless trolls to take over.

imagine that.

this is the new generation of trolls: they are educated from the best reform schools.
 

anantak2k

Semi-Pro
What makes Nadal win over other top players is his perfection of gamesmanship. His fans like to call it mental strength.

He is also great at boosting his winning percentages by rarely ever missing any events on clay but missing any events possible on other surfaces.

He is also so great that he has never to date lost a match without being injured. He is the only player in the history of tennis that was never outplayed by his opponent.
 
professional rafa haters unite again.

impressive. you guys obviously work for nothing since your talents have such a limited market.
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
I start a thread about tennis and it takes 20 seconds for the legless, gutless, and toothless trolls to take over.

imagine that.

this is the new generation of trolls: they are educated from the best reform schools.

To be fair, your thread was just too tempting. We counter-trolls are compelled to act in such cases as a clear troll thread.
 

insideguy

G.O.A.T.
I am not sure if there are more I love Rafa more than life itself threads or I hate Rafa more than poop threads. I think they are neck and neck. I wanna start a why isnt rafa playing in the real tournament next week in Dubai thread.
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
I believe that he is a troll himself.

^This

This poster constantly creates threads, even ones knowing the mods will delete them (and, potentially, with the purpose that they do so), and refuses to post anywhere aside from his threads. His OPs are generally a waste of space, and are basically the same thing: "Amuse me, mortals." Well, not in those words, but my point still stands.
 
You're just asking for trolls when you create pro Rafa threads though. Especially since you do so many.


then you are missing the whole point of it all.


i want the trolls to gather like there is no tomorrow so the smart folks can see what is becoming of this place. so it is working like a charm.

i created 3 threads in the last 2 days and all three were removed by the mods. troll infestation is fully expected and even anticipated.

removal of those threads is also fully expected.


some of these trolls/professional rafa haters carry multiple accounts and some of them are from MTF.

they know very little about the game itself but they know a lot about hating rafa.


it is amusing stuff. i am having a blast. trolls need to be exposed.


that said, i can also take it or leave it. i don't really have that much time to waste.
 

Manus Domini

Hall of Fame
then you are missing the whole point of it all.


i want the trolls to gather like there is no tomorrow so the smart folks can see what is becoming of this place. so it is working like a charm.

i created 3 threads in the last 2 days and all three were removed by the mods. troll infestation is fully expected and even anticipated.

removal of those threads is also fully expected.


some of these trolls/professional rafa haters carry multiple accounts and some of them are from MTF.

they know very little about the game itself but they know a lot about hating rafa.


it is amusing stuff. i am having a blast. trolls need to be exposed.


that said, i can also take it or leave it. i don't really have that much time to waste.

Cool. So, leave it. We don't need any more trolls around here.

kthxbye
 

Ramesh848

Banned
then you are missing the whole point of it all.


i want the trolls to gather like there is no tomorrow so the smart folks can see what is becoming of this place. so it is working like a charm.

i created 3 threads in the last 2 days and all three were removed by the mods. troll infestation is fully expected and even anticipated.

removal of those threads is also fully expected.


some of these trolls/professional rafa haters carry multiple accounts and some of them are from MTF.

they know very little about the game itself but they know a lot about hating rafa.


it is amusing stuff. i am having a blast. trolls need to be exposed.


that said, i can also take it or leave it. i don't really have that much time to waste.


Clay Death- Again please stop posting.

Trolls already have ruined this forum too much, we need discussions, not troll wars.

TT doesn't need banned troll from MTF. I believe trolling by this rate, you're on way of losing membership on TT also.
 

insideguy

G.O.A.T.
Clay Death- Again please stop posting.

Trolls already have ruined this forum too much, we need discussions, not troll wars.

TT doesn't need banned troll from MTF. I believe trolling by this rate, you're on way of losing membership on TT also.

He almost seems obsessed. Its very odd.
 

Ramesh848

Banned
My formal request mods: Please delete this thread, it was created for sole purpose of trolling or giving platform to trolls. This type threads contributes nothing to Tennis community.
 
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