1. Murray has fantastic returns and causes Federer to play more balls than he prefers. Federer has even started double faulting with each match he plays Murray - signs that Fed is going for more on 2nd serves.
2. Federer has huge dips in his 1st serve percentage against Murray. Federer usually starts at 64% but often in sets 2 and 3 vs Murray in the last few meetings he go's down to below 50%.
3. Murray serves very well nowadays and with a lot of variety and placement. He has also found a weakness on the Federer fh return which is currently giving Murray a ton of free points.
4. Murray can handle the Federer bh slice and gives Federer a lot of his own medicine with his own effective slice both down the line and crosscourt.
5. Murray can breakdown the Federer bh in a variety of ways. Murray uses flat, spin, loopers and topspin to breakdown the Federer bh.
6. Murray can move as efficiently as any of the top movers on court. This makes life hard for Federer as it is very difficult to overpower Murray due to his nimble movement and great hands.
7. Murray's bh is so solid on bh to bh exchanges and wins most of their cross court exchanges.
8. Murray is 6 years younger than Federer and is hungry, determined and full of beans. Murray wants success at any cost and is motivated to achieve all his goals,Which, as he puts it '.it's all about winning slams'.
When combine all the above you have a unstoppable package that will trouble any top player at any given time. The only player that could match the considerable talents of Murray in Federer's generation was Nalbandian and it is no secret that Nalbandian always gives Federer a run for his money. Unfortunately, for Nalby he never put himself in enough positions to meet Federer in the big grandslams on a consistent basis. I get the feeling Murray wont make that mistake. Thoughts?
Some great points but since you mention Nalbandian,where Murray really has him is in serve department.Murray has a very big first serve(I've seen him crank it up to 220+km/h lately)something Nalbandian never had and had to rely on winning the match purely with his ballstriking from the baseline and amazing return of serve.
I still feel that what troubles Fed the most when he plays Murray is Murray's return of serve(he forces Fed to "earn" every point and gets an amazing amount of balls into play against anyone,even Fed,Roddick and Karlovic)and amazing defense and court coverage(Fed always had trouble against great) defenders).Murray's ability to breakdown Fed's BH and his hands are just the icing on the cake.
A standard Fedtart reply would be, " it doesn't matter, Federer couldn't care less with this tournament, Federer will beat him when it matters most, and will beat him hard in the slams. Heck, even MS is not serious enough for Federer to beat Murray. "
What has this got to do with topic? Sure the fact that Fed lost in Doha matters but Murray still has to back all of his recent wins(not just against Fed)at AO,I'm sure that is his goal as well.I know see why the OP ommited to include Nadal in his post,he didn't want to attract his fans and let this thread to go down the toilet and he was right.
Did you read Thugnasty's comment? He said Nadal was getting his butt handed to him on hardcourts. At the time, Nadal had a 2-1 record against Federer on hardcourts. Those were in Fed's prime years.
Nadal has a 2-3 record against Fed on HC but yes but I also disagree with Thugnasty's comment.Nadal was always a bad match-up for Fed.
Roger should start giving murray the respect that's due.
He said that Murray is tough to play for him and that he has a shot at number one this year,what more do you want him to do? Kiss his ass?
A loss is a loss,Wether it be Doha or Wimbledon..
A loss in Wimbledon and a loss in Doha really isn't comparable.Doha is a warm up tournament,Wimbledon is the most prestigious grand slam ever,no comparison.
I ' feel Roger's in for a brutal year,for his standards.Early exit's are going to be the norm for him.
Way off topic again,there are quite a few "Fed is done" threads around here,you could resurrect some of them or even make your own.I'm sure that is not the discussion the OP had in mind here.