Recent History could suggest a new US Open champion in 2007!

Mr Topspin

Semi-Pro
This year, so far, we have had 3 different grand slam champions on the WTA.

Serena d. Sharapova at the AO

Henin d. Ivanovic at the FO

Venus d. Bartoli at W

If we rewind back to 2004:

Henin d. Clijsters at the AO

Myskina d. Dementieva at FO

Sharapova d. Serena at W

Kuznetsova d. Dementieva


and in 2005:

Serena d. Davenport at the AO

Henin d. Pierce

Venus d. Davenport

Clijsters d. Pierce


Therefore, according to recent history, there is a likely chance that we will have 4 different champions this year. It is also possible that we could have like 2004 a double losing finalist. In 2004 Elena Dementieva lost both her grand slam finals; losing both the French and US open. It is possible that Sharapova, Ivanovic and most unlikely that Bartoli could lose at the US Open final.

The winner of the 2007 US Open, if history is to be repeated could provide a new champion with the likely candidates being Vaidisova or Jankovic.

Any thoughts?
 
This year, so far, we have had 3 different grand slam champions on the WTA.

Serena d. Sharapova at the AO

Henin d. Ivanovic at the FO

Venus d. Bartoli at W

If we rewind back to 2004:

Henin d. Clijsters at the AO

Myskina d. Dementieva at FO

Sharapova d. Serena at W

Kuznetsova d. Dementieva


and in 2005:

Serena d. Davenport at the AO

Henin d. Pierce

Venus d. Davenport

Clijsters d. Pierce


Therefore, according to recent history, there is a likely chance that we will have 4 different champions this year. It is also possible that we could have like 2004 a double losing finalist. In 2004 Elena Dementieva lost both her grand slam finals; losing both the French and US open. It is possible that Sharapova, Ivanovic and most unlikely that Bartoli could lose at the US Open final.

The winner of the 2007 US Open, if history is to be repeated could provide a new champion with the likely candidates being Vaidisova or Jankovic.

Any thoughts?

I think one of the 3 Grand Slam winners of 2007 will take the US Open. Jankovic will most likely be in the mix but she has yet to prove herself in a bigger match, also Ivanovic might be a sure bet also….
 

Mr Topspin

Semi-Pro
I think one of the 3 Grand Slam winners of 2007 will take the US Open. Jankovic will most likely be in the mix but she has yet to prove herself in a bigger match, also Ivanovic might be a sure bet also….


Interesting point! I cant see Henin winning on the ultra fast US open with a full roster. For some reason, the US Open is more of an equaliser on the wta and has not had a repeat winner since Venus Willilams in 2001. I cant see Serena winning either after her unreliable body broke down at Wimbledon.
 
I didn't want to seem biased but ...

Interesting point! I cant see Henin winning on the ultra fast US open with a full roster. For some reason, the US Open is more of an equaliser on the wta and has not had a repeat winner since Venus Willilams in 2001. I cant see Serena winning either after her unreliable body broke down at Wimbledon.

Actually my pick is Venus Williams, because of her recent form, her health and depending on her preparation leading into Flushing Meadows, I see her working towards a possible 7th Grand Slam. Looking at the fed cup last week, her 2nd serve and forehand are looking really strong.
 
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Tchocky

Hall of Fame
Absolute nonsense! History has very little to do with sports and active athletes. The Women's Singles Championship is pretty much up for grabs. Nadal is the only guy that has a chance of dethroning Federer from winning 4 in a row.
 
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psamp14

Hall of Fame
Absolute nonsense! History has very little to do with sports and active athletes. The Women's Singles Championship is pretty much up for grabs. Nadal is the only guy that has a chance of dethroning Federer from winning 3 in a row.

not 3, but 4 in a row :)
 

InvisibleSoul

Hall of Fame
Therefore, according to recent history, there is a likely chance that we will have 4 different champions this year.

Any thoughts?
Yes. This is a logical fallacy.

Just because of the fact that there have been different winners in recent history has absolutely ZERO bearing on the chances of whether the next champion will also be different.

Simplest example:

You flip a coin six times. The results are different for every toss, ie. it lands heads, tails, heads, tails, heads, tails.

By your reasoning, because it has been different everytime, there is a likely chance the trend will continue, ie the next toss will heads.

This is completely incorrect. There is just as much chance as the seventh flip being tails as heads.

The fact that there are only three people that can repeat as winners this year, compared to dozens that can't, THAT suggests it may be more likely that there will be a new champion, but not what you said.
 

flying24

Banned
Venus almost always goes off the boil after a huge win these days. It is very much stop and start with her. I would be surprised if she won the U.s Open.
 

robin7

Hall of Fame
I want see to Serena who won her 4 Grand Slams in a row back in 2002/03.

And I also want to see Venus who won her 4 back-to-back Grand Slams back in 2000/01.

I think Venus has a better chance based on her current form.
 

emcee

Semi-Pro
Yes. This is a logical fallacy.

Just because of the fact that there have been different winners in recent history has absolutely ZERO bearing on the chances of whether the next champion will also be different.

Simplest example:

You flip a coin six times. The results are different for every toss, ie. it lands heads, tails, heads, tails, heads, tails.

By your reasoning, because it has been different everytime, there is a likely chance the trend will continue, ie the next toss will heads.

This is completely incorrect. There is just as much chance as the seventh flip being tails as heads.

The fact that there are only three people that can repeat as winners this year, compared to dozens that can't, THAT suggests it may be more likely that there will be a new champion, but not what you said.

I agree that what he said isn't true, but your logical mumbojumbo talk doesn't really relate either.

If all the champs this year so far are different, it suggests that the WTA is in a bit of flux. For example, since Rog has won so many US Opens in a row, he's more likely to win the next one. Why? Do I really have to explain it to you?

Coin flipping is totally random. Grand Slam winners are not. I really hate when people try to use their Logic 101 skills...but are WRONG!
 
Serena will barring any injury. Although I hate her guts, she probably would have beat Henin at Wimby if she was hundred (btw, I definately don't think she was 40% like she claims, more like 85%) and probably would have gone on to win because Venus can't beat her anymore. I'd put my money on her. If she does break down, I think Ana has a GREAT chance. It could just be a fanboy talking, but seriously, I do like her chances.

Look out for shriekapova though. She's my dark horse among the top seeds (if you can call it a dark horse). With all the attention focusing back on the Williams sisters, people looking to see if justinne can dominate on anything besides clay, and more people jumping on Ana and Nicole's bandwagon (to those of you that are on her bandwagon now...I HATE YOU. You ruined maria sharapova for me like that as well), I think MaSha has something to prove once again and will use that along with the fast surface to obliterate the competition.

so here are my top 5:

1. Serena Williams
2. Ana Ivanovic
3. Maria Sharapova
4. Venus Williams (if she can build on her successes for once)
5. Jankovic
 

War Safin!

Professional
This year, so far, we have had 3 different grand slam champions on the WTA.

Serena d. Sharapova at the AO

Henin d. Ivanovic at the FO

Venus d. Bartoli at W

If we rewind back to 2004:

Henin d. Clijsters at the AO

Myskina d. Dementieva at FO

Sharapova d. Serena at W

Kuznetsova d. Dementieva


and in 2005:

Serena d. Davenport at the AO

Henin d. Pierce

Venus d. Davenport

Clijsters d. Pierce


Therefore, according to recent history, there is a likely chance that we will have 4 different champions this year. It is also possible that we could have like 2004 a double losing finalist. In 2004 Elena Dementieva lost both her grand slam finals; losing both the French and US open. It is possible that Sharapova, Ivanovic and most unlikely that Bartoli could lose at the US Open final.

The winner of the 2007 US Open, if history is to be repeated could provide a new champion with the likely candidates being Vaidisova or Jankovic.

Any thoughts?
But women's tennis is so bad these days that anyone can win any of the Slams in any year.....
 
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