Roddick's chances at the AO 08'.

[chlsmo]

Roddick's draw looks fairly manageable this year. He is finally on the opposite half of Federer.

He should not have too much trouble getting at least to the Quarters where his toughest opponent would probably be Nadal. I think that match could go either way. If he moves on to the semis he would have a tough but doable match against likely Murray, Gasquet, Davydenko, Youzhny, etc. (I think this quarter is up for grabs, there is up and coming talent and dark horses alike).

Anyway assuming Federer makes it to the finals again, good luck to either of them IMO. I want Federer to keep getting slams maybe even the SLAM, but I think it would be interesting/entertaining if Roddick could avenge last years semi, and claim another slam title in doing so.

 

[gj011]

Roddick's chances to go past QF are slim to none, and to go past SF are none whatsoever.

 

[Jonnyf]

Roddick's chances to go past QF are slim to none, and to go past SF are none whatsoever.

Having seen the way he's hitting his forehand this year, I don't think it is, Let's bring this up in a fortnight and see.

 

[superman1]

He has a shot to beat Nadal. Not a great one, but it's a possibly fatigued Nadal on hard courts, and he'll be pumped up as hell to get to his first Slam final in a while.

 

[Forehand Forever]

Roddick's chances to go past QF are slim to none, and to go past SF are none whatsoever.

No way. Roddick could have a great chance against Nadal because of Nadal's injuries. I'm hoping for this match up.

 

[Blade0324]

I absolutely see Roddick making it to at least the quarters and very likely the semi.

 

[Leublu tennis]

Roddick is due. He has been in top 10 for 4 years, other than a couple of weeks in 2006 when he slipped to #12. But he does need to overcome Nadal with whom he is even in matches.

 

[futuretoptenner]

If Roddick plays as well as he did at the USO, I think he could potentially make the finals . Depends on how fast the surface is playing and if Nadal is fit.

 

[Morrissey]

Roddick's chances to go past QF are slim to none, and to go past SF are none whatsoever.

Thank you!

 

[Morrissey]

Roddick is due. He has been in top 10 for 4 years, other than a couple of weeks in 2006 when he slipped to #12. But he does need to overcome Nadal with whom he is even in matches.

Nadal is 2-1 h2h vs ARod. 1-1 hc.

 

[Morrissey]

He has a shot to beat Nadal. Not a great one, but it's a possibly fatigued Nadal on hard courts, and he'll be pumped up as hell to get to his first Slam final in a while.

We'll see how pumped he'll be against a guy who needs no motivation in a big match, or any match in general. But looking at his draw Nadal looks unlikely to be pushed 5 sets against anyone before the QF with Roddick. Nadal should be fresh going into that match and once the rally starts Nadal has a tremendous edge. Only chance Roddick has is to serve like Federer in this one. I would pay for that match to happen. I'll circle the date of that possible matchup on my calendar.

 

[chlsmo]

Roddick's chances to go past QF are slim to none, and to go past SF are none whatsoever.

This is a terribly insightful post. Thanks.:roll:

 

[zagor]

Federer is not in his half so atleast that goes in his favor and I think he can beat Nadal on hardcourt but he'll have to have a great serving day,I would still favour Nadal though,even if it's a hardcourt.

 

[NamRanger]

Nadal is 2-1 h2h vs ARod. 1-1 hc.

One match that was on clay and a hostile enviroment. The other ARod played like an idiot. I'm sorry, but if Nadal actually played ARod with his A-Game, no way he has any chance to beat him on ANY hardcourt. The last time they played with ARod at his best, he literally put a beatdown on Nadal.

 

[lambielspins]

One match that was on clay and a hostile enviroment. The other ARod played like an idiot. I'm sorry, but if Nadal actually played ARod with his A-Game, no way he has any chance to beat him on ANY hardcourt. The last time they played with ARod at his best, he literally put a beatdown on Nadal.

Yes, but that was in 2004. You arent really going to suggest Nadal in 2004 wasnt light years different then the Nadal of even 2005, let alone now.

 

[Heavy Metal Tennis Star]

roddicks chances? NONE

 

[Heavy Metal Tennis Star]

oh btw, when you people say he may make it past the quarters, thats not an opinion, thats a wish.

 

[hewittboy]

With his draw I see him in the final, where he will lose to Federer.

 

[A.Davidson]

Andy has a good chance if he plays like he did at the U.S. Open vs. Federer - even though, remember, that was his best match against Darth Fed and he still lost in straight, albeit close, sets. With this forehand he's been showing, he has a pretty good chance to make the quarters, at least.

Also, just a quick thought - I think Senor Roddick will be more relaxed than usual, having a little more fun. He KNOWS that Federer is a long way off, so he can relax and just play his game without the added pressure of meeting Federer in the quarters, semis, etc.

 

[hewittboy]

Andy has a good chance if he plays like he did at the U.S. Open vs. Federer - even though, remember, that was his best match against Darth Fed and he still lost in straight, albeit close, sets.

Nadal is no Federer on a hard court, especialy right now. If Andy played like he did in that U.S Open match with Federer he would straight set Nadal on a hard court at the moment.

 

[A.Davidson]

^^^

Agreed.

 

[NamRanger]

Yes, but that was in 2004. You arent really going to suggest Nadal in 2004 wasnt light years different then the Nadal of even 2005, let alone now.

Nadal is not that good on HC. He has his moments where he can just torch everyone, but those are very rare and the conditions have to be right. The draw also has to be in his favor. If Nadal runs into a big hitter on a fast surface, he loses. Roddick at the moment is showing that he can hit big again, and with an improved backhand and at least somewhat better net game, he's going to be a force to recokened with. He's flying under the radar, and everyone keeps calling him trash. That's motivation for you. I wouldn't be suprise to seem him in the final.

 

[gj011]

oh btw, when you people say he may make it past the quarters, thats not an opinion, thats a wish.

Agreed. This whole thread is Roddick fans' wishlist.

 

[RoddickAce]

Roddick's hitting his forehand flatter, and with more pace, so I think he's hot a great chance. But he has to hit his approach shots just as flat, I remember last year he got owned by nadal at the net.

 

[Zaragoza]

One match that was on clay and a hostile enviroment. The other ARod played like an idiot. I'm sorry, but if Nadal actually played ARod with his A-Game, no way he has any chance to beat him on ANY hardcourt. The last time they played with ARod at his best, he literally put a beatdown on Nadal.

There wasn´t any hostility towards Roddick or the americans in the Davis Cup. Their match on hardcourts when Nadal was 18 and not in his prime doesn´t lead to any serious conclusion. Their only match on hardcourts being both in their primes was last year and Nadal won 6-4 6-3 with a double break in the 2nd set, that was really a beatdown. Roddick´s problem was not tactical, it was that Nadal is better than him on everything but the serve.
If both play their A-game Nadal is the favourite to win on any surface.

 

[msc886]

Judging by past results, I'd say he should make the quaters+- 1 round.

 

[Zaragoza]

Nadal is no Federer on a hard court, especialy right now. If Andy played like he did in that U.S Open match with Federer he would straight set Nadal on a hard court at the moment.

If he plays like he did last time he played Nadal on hardcourts he will lose in straight sets again.

 

[hewittboy]

If he plays like he did last time he played Nadal on hardcourts he will lose in straight sets again.

I am not even entirely sure on that. Nadal has not played as strong of tennis on hard courts as he did in Pacific Life for a long time now. If you can think of a recent time he did feel free to point it out. Even if you are right on that, Roddick was awful that match so it wouldnt be that hard to play better then that. That is my point, it is hard to see Nadal playing as well as he did in that match on hard courts as he did that event since he hasnt for quite awhile, and again feel free to tell me the last time he did; and it is easy to expect Roddick to play better then he did that match since that was pretty much his worst tennis.

You say "everything but the serve". However the serve is the most important shot in tennis and if you can dominate on that it wont take much else. When Roddick is serving his best, except for the most exceptional return of servers like Federer or Nalbandian (even Hewitt in his prime) Roddick will hold serve pretty much everytime, and his "rest of game" is good enough to get what he needs to win the match, which isnt much, just a break at some point in the set or some good tiebreak points on his opponent serve.

 

[quest01]

I would like to see another Roddick vs Nadal match. These two haven't played much between each other so this match up would be interesting to watch.

 

[psamp14]

if roddick keeps his focus, i think he will make it to the quarterfinals for sure, where he very well could beat nadal and make it to the final...nadal bowed out to youzhny at the 2006 us open in the qtrs, an on-fire gonzo at the 2007 AO in the qtrs, to david ferrer in the USO quarters later that year...

if nadal isnt playing some of his high level tennis, i see roddick beating him in 4 sets, and going to the final

 

[grizzly4life]

FWIW, wertheim from cnnsi has roddick in the finals. and presumably he isn't biased... see the thread i started on wertheim's preview.

 

[DashaandSafin]

Roddick's chances to go past QF are slim to none, and to go past SF are none whatsoever.

Troll post Cmon now

 

[NamRanger]

There wasn´t any hostility towards Roddick or the americans in the Davis Cup. Their match on hardcourts when Nadal was 18 and not in his prime doesn´t lead to any serious conclusion. Their only match on hardcourts being both in their primes was last year and Nadal won 6-4 6-3 with a double break in the 2nd set, that was really a beatdown. Roddick´s problem was not tactical, it was that Nadal is better than him on everything but the serve.
If both play their A-game Nadal is the favourite to win on any surface.

I'm sorry, but to say that the Spanish crowds during Davis Cup aren't hostile is just being plain out ignorant. Do you even watch Davis Cup tennis? Crowds in Davis Cup get EXTREMELY hostile, especially in Spain and France. All I have to tell you is just watch Nadal when he plays in Madrid. The whole entire crowd is ALWAYS behind Nadal, hardly ever any support for the other player. It's quite obvious you are Nadal biased.



And I hardly call last year Andy Roddick's prime. His prime was during the short 2003 summer span up to 2004 summer where he was completely dominant with the serve and forehand, then suddenly his game changed completely in 2005.

 

[Morrissey]

I'm sorry, but to say that the Spanish crowds during Davis Cup aren't hostile is just being plain out ignorant. Do you even watch Davis Cup tennis? Crowds in Davis Cup get EXTREMELY hostile, especially in Spain and France. All I have to tell you is just watch Nadal when he plays in Madrid. The whole entire crowd is ALWAYS behind Nadal, hardly ever any support for the other player. It's quite obvious you are Nadal biased.



And I hardly call last year Andy Roddick's prime. His prime was during the short 2003 summer span up to 2004 summer where he was completely dominant with the serve and forehand, then suddenly his game changed completely in 2005.

If ARod is holding any hostility its because Nadal beat his ass down last time they met and he only does to Fed what he wishes he could do. Nadal wins the match in the QF if they meet up. Bank on it. Roddick has no weapons to hurt Nadal from the baseline and he won't win every point on his serve. Nadal in 3, maybe 4.

 

[Brouillons]

Roddick's hitting his forehand flatter, and with more pace, so I think he's hot a great chance. But he has to hit his approach shots just as flat, I remember last year he got owned by nadal at the net.

nah, i don't think roddick is all that powerful anymore, he's become more of a counter hitter lately, but still with that fantastic serve. He gets out hitten from the back of the court by a lot of players, but he is great defensively. I mean, whens the last time you have seen him just hit an outright winner from the back of the court in a rally.

 

[Peter H.Gilmore]

Nadal is no Federer on a hard court, especialy right now. If Andy played like he did in that U.S Open match with Federer he would straight set Nadal on a hard court at the moment.

You say that but he always falls short against the real top guys, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and even ferrer, all of them beat him this year without losing a set, nadal broke him 3 times in Indian wells, NADAL 3 TIMES, thats incredible considering nadal is weak at returnin and roddick is a big server. :shock:

 

[hewittboy]

You say that but he always falls short against the real top guys, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and even ferrer, all of them beat him this year without losing a set, nadal broke him 3 times in Indian wells, NADAL 3 TIMES, thats incredible considering nadal is weak at returnin and roddick is a big server. :shock:

Yes, but I said if Roddick plays like he did vs Federer at the U.S Open he would beat any of those other guys. Federer is the only one who would have beaten him that day. Also Roddick served and played like garbage in that Pacific Life Open match with Nadal as I said before. Nadal on the other hand played his absolute best hard court tennis which he hasnt even come close to since at any point. Compared to that match Nadal can only get worse, and Roddick only can get alot better.

 

[Arbartrator]

how much times did roddick play nadal?
i saw one of the match on youtube but roddick lost that one =(

 

[downdaline]

Roddick has a good draw, but that doesnt mean that he's gonna win. Out in the semis i think.

 

[Thor]

Roddick has a good draw, but that doesnt mean that he's gonna win. Out in the semis i think.

Roddick will either go out in the QF or the final.
I think his potential Semi matchups are clearly in his favor(Besides murray) - Youzhni,Davydenko etc etc.

Nadal and Fed have easy draws.Fed will cruise to the semi's where hopefully he'll meet Nalby and Nadal will easily match last year's QF(although i see Paul Henry Matthiu giving him hell)

 

[seestern]

One match that was on clay and a hostile enviroment. The other ARod played like an idiot. I'm sorry, but if Nadal actually played ARod with his A-Game, no way he has any chance to beat him on ANY hardcourt. The last time they played with ARod at his best, he literally put a beatdown on Nadal.

But the last time was in USO 2004. Something should have been changed, no?

 

[seestern]

I am not even entirely sure on that. Nadal has not played as strong of tennis on hard courts as he did in Pacific Life for a long time now. If you can think of a recent time he did feel free to point it out. Even if you are right on that, Roddick was awful that match so it wouldnt be that hard to play better then that. That is my point, it is hard to see Nadal playing as well as he did in that match on hard courts as he did that event since he hasnt for quite awhile, and again feel free to tell me the last time he did; and it is easy to expect Roddick to play better then he did that match since that was pretty much his worst tennis.

You say "everything but the serve". However the serve is the most important shot in tennis and if you can dominate on that it wont take much else. When Roddick is serving his best, except for the most exceptional return of servers like Federer or Nalbandian (even Hewitt in his prime) Roddick will hold serve pretty much everytime, and his "rest of game" is good enough to get what he needs to win the match, which isnt much, just a break at some point in the set or some good tiebreak points on his opponent serve.

Literally you are right. If one guy can not only serve his best like Roddick along 3-set but also consistently, he would win most of matches even it comes to tie-break. BUT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.
Let's see Fed in USO 07, or Wimbledon 07 his serve had been leaving him some games certainly. But of course he had B-game, C-game, nth-game to be out of trouble. What would Roddick have?

 

[KAZUKI]

he would having FIGHTING SPIRIT AND GRIND THAT **** OUT

 

[thejackal]

roddick hit nadal with a couple of 140mph serves when they played at the USO in 04. nadal went into submission and won like 3 games the whole match. if roddick can do that again he might have a shot.

 

[tintin]

didn't Nadal beat Roddick while Roddick was playing his best and was injury-free with Connors as coach(for those trying to come up with an excuse just in case) in straight sets in Miami in 2007 on hard court?
the slower the court,the more it will suit Nadal imo

if Nadal can hit one of his forehands and push Roddick 5-10 feet from the baseline,he will drop shot Andy until 2009 comes upon us:lol: :lol:

 

[RoddickAce]

didn't Nadal beat Roddick while Roddick was playing his best and was injury-free with Connors as coach(for those trying to come up with an excuse just in case) in straight sets in Miami in 2007 on hard court?
the slower the court,the more it will suit Nadal imo

if Nadal can hit one of his forehands and push Roddick 5-10 feet from the baseline,he will drop shot Andy until 2009 comes upon us:lol: :lol:

Roddick was not at his best at that time, did u see how many shots he missed? Compared to winners?

 

[tintin]

Roddick was not at his best at that time, did u see how many shots he missed? Compared to winners?

oh give me a break already!
Roddick was serving out a tree and Nadal broke him and had him stand 5-10 feet behind the baseline and ran him like a rag doll:lol:
Nadal would pin Roddick far back with his top spin forehand in one corner and would pass Roddick with a backhand or a forehand down the line.
Hell whenever Roddick tried to go at the net he'd get passed too
guess you weren't watching the same match I was watching on espn :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGP1p5rec1c

 

[RoddickAce]

Watch some of the matches at Kooyong, and compare that forehand with the forehand in the nadal-roddick match. There's a significant difference. He was serving big, but not as consistent. 58% first serve isnt bad, but when his game is on, he can serve above 70% with the same amount of pace.

 

[NamRanger]

oh give me a break already!
Roddick was serving out a tree and Nadal broke him and had him stand 5-10 feet behind the baseline and ran him like a rag doll:lol:
Nadal would pin Roddick far back with his top spin forehand in one corner and would pass Roddick with a backhand or a forehand down the line.
Hell whenever Roddick tried to go at the net he'd get passed too
guess you weren't watching the same match I was watching on espn :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGP1p5rec1c

He rolled all of his shots into the court hoping Nadal would make an error, unfourtanately he is playing the best clay courter in the world. You really need to understand that Roddick played like complete GARBAGE in the Pacific Life Open. He had a DUMB gameplan against Nadal. To beat Nadal, you need two things, a big serve (which Roddick has), and a big down the line and inside out forehand (both which Roddick CAN do). As long as you have these things, you can run Nadal silly on a HC.

 

[superman1]

Watch a few points from his USO match with Fed last year. The guy can really crank the ball. He was playing unbelievably well, and only lost because he couldn't win the big points. Fed was playing his best as well, so there are no excuses. Roddick is a great player when he's on. His holding serve all depends on what his forehand can do with Nadal's weak returns. Breaking serve is another matter...