Roger Federer: Slacker? .... GOLDBRICKER???

Sorry if this has been mentioned in other threads but I never knew this about Roger the GOAT.

In Switzerland there is compulsory military service for all able bodied males who have reached the "age of majority" (i.e., no longer considered a minor). And yet Roger Federer who for so many years has gracefully flown around tennis courts like a winged angel and whose smooooth style was the reason many cited as why he was never really injured during his career nevertheless got out of having to serve his country by virtue of a "bad back?" Amazing, I never knew this before. It makes it all the more shocking then to read the amount of (fed)fanboy crap leveled at Nadal about Rafa's alleged cheating by stating it as if it were fact. But in the case of Roger the Dodger, it IS fact, it IS a matter of record. Federer got out of serving his country by claiming a bad back.

Anyway, the good news is that while those who do not (for whatever reason) fulfill thier obligation to their country have to pay an additional 3% annual income tax, they no longer have to do so once they (Federer) reach 30 years of age. So Roger's now off the hook tax-wise from here on and anyway, as rich as he was/is, he could've easily paid the additional 3%. But now the goldbricker's off the hook.

GOAT? More like the GOATBRICKER:

 

Totai

Professional
1. It is "Age of Maturity" not Majority

2. Fed's back could truly not be suited for military life. He hurts it when playing tennis, imagine him climbing the alps with 50 pounds of military gear on his back.

3. Who cares? What does this have to do with tennis?
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
My understanding of this was not that he claimed a bad back but a bad backHAND, and he offered video of his matches against Nadal as proof.
 

merwy

Legend
My understanding of this was not that he claimed a bad back but a bad backHAND, and he offered video of his matches against Nadal as proof.
hehe

Aren't certain talented people excluded from military conscription? I know for a fact that some South-Korean footballers (like J.S. Park) didn't have to go into military because he was such a good athlete. I think the same would go for Federer, no?

And I see why you're complaining OP. If Federer had to participate in military service he would not be able to win all those Grand Slams and Nadal might have been the GOAT.
 

heftylefty

Hall of Fame
Arthur Ashe served in the US Army. Guess what he did while in the Army? Play tennis...including winning the First US Open.
 

VAMOSDNA

Banned
And people wonder why Federer didn't inspire more Swiss tennis players.....He just isn't a great character. He has talent, but so do most top tennis players. And talent isn't something people aspire to.
 

Crisstti

Legend
Lol, making up something to get out of military service is something I would NEVER hold against anyone.

Surprised Switzerland has compulsory military service though.

What about Spain?.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Federer got out of serving his country by claiming a bad back.
Good for him. The fewer war-mongering and pseudo-patriotic people, the better. Better to do something good with your life when you are young than waste a couple of years and come back a burden on the local and global economy, while others of that age have already passed you by to become globally competitive, while you enroll in tax-payer funded remedial math class because you have forgotten what you learnt in high school.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
This thread man, this thread. This thread made my night!
 

Elite

Semi-Pro
You forgot to mention that each house in Switzerland has a bunker in the backyard in the unlikely event of a nuclear attack.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
What kind of a dopey thread is this :p?
Bitter troll getting his (tiny) game on. Pathetic.

He's done more for Switzerland as a country than the whole army put together.
Amen. He's made life easier for all the SUI bankers who helped One Percenters hide their money from the world's taxmen... :)

Having said that, Shahar Peer, who did her time for ISR, might kick Fed's *ss in a fight... :)
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Oh, so this is all about being butthurt? I see.
Meh, I was mostly joking, I don't know exactly.

Either way, as far as I'm concerned what Fed does in his personal life is his business, I care about his tennis which is a joy to watch (for me).
 

Elite

Semi-Pro
I'm sure if anyone had the opportunity to either travel the world, play tennis and make millions of dollars or join the army, it'd be the former.
 

Docalex007

Hall of Fame
Sorry if this has been mentioned in other threads but I never knew this about Roger the GOAT.

In Switzerland there is compulsory military service for all able bodied males who have reached the "age of majority" (i.e., no longer considered a minor). And yet Roger Federer who for so many years has gracefully flown around tennis courts like a winged angel and whose smooooth style was the reason many cited as why he was never really injured during his career nevertheless got out of having to serve his country by virtue of a "bad back?" Amazing, I never knew this before. It makes it all the more shocking then to read the amount of (fed)fanboy crap leveled at Nadal about Rafa's alleged cheating by stating it as if it were fact. But in the case of Roger the Dodger, it IS fact, it IS a matter of record. Federer got out of serving his country by claiming a bad back.

Anyway, the good news is that while those who do not (for whatever reason) fulfill thier obligation to their country have to pay an additional 3% annual income tax, they no longer have to do so once they (Federer) reach 30 years of age. So Roger's now off the hook tax-wise from here on and anyway, as rich as he was/is, he could've easily paid the additional 3%. But now the goldbricker's off the hook.

GOAT? More like the GOATBRICKER:
Military service in Switzerland is "compulsory" ... what is the consequence of not fulfilling this obligation according to Swiss laws? As you say... you have to pay 3% additional income tax (which is a lot of dosh from a star like Federer). I'm sure he paid a fair amount because of this in his 20s. Then at 30 it stops... this is a SWISS law. Why are you arguing like Federer is crapping on the system? He's abiding by it.

Second point, with the 3% additional income tax coming from Federer in his 20s, he has benefited his country and government far more that way than if he'd done his time in the service cleaning tanks and rifles all day.

Third point, he's a national icon. Skipping the service (which would have affected his tennis career progression) has benefited his country FAR more than had he gone. How can you say the decision he made wasn't the right one for not just him, but for his country?

Dedans, I remember you from when I frequented this forum all the time half a decade ago. You were much more on form back then.
 
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mmk

Hall of Fame
My youngest daughter spent most of last summer in Zurich. She said that most people sort of snicker when guys go past in their Army uniforms, as everyone knows that it isn't very serious.
 

Hood_Man

Legend
Posting several paragraphs to chastise another human being for not going through National Service; about 10-20 minutes.

Having the confidence to not post in the thread again, knowing the hornets best has well and truly been disturbed; priceless.

There's a few people who could learn a thing or two from you OP, bravo.
 

ollinger

G.O.A.T.
Shahar Pe'er did her time in segments in the Israeli military, though was allowed to spend a part of the day practicing tennis. She reportedly won some marksmanship awards on the firing range.
 

Polaris

Hall of Fame
Good for him. The fewer war-mongering and pseudo-patriotic people, the better. Better to do something good with your life when you are young than waste a couple of years and come back a burden on the local and global economy, while others of that age have already passed you by to become globally competitive, while you enroll in tax-payer funded remedial math class because you have forgotten what you learnt in high school.
pwnage++; // wow!
 

kragster

Hall of Fame
Good for him. The fewer war-mongering and pseudo-patriotic people, the better. Better to do something good with your life when you are young than waste a couple of years and come back a burden on the local and global economy, while others of that age have already passed you by to become globally competitive, while you enroll in tax-payer funded remedial math class because you have forgotten what you learnt in high school.
Damn, this post needs to be stickied and sureshs hailed a hero!
 

LaneMyer

Rookie
hehe

Aren't certain talented people excluded from military conscription? I know for a fact that some South-Korean footballers (like J.S. Park) didn't have to go into military because he was such a good athlete. I think the same would go for Federer, no?

And I see why you're complaining OP. If Federer had to participate in military service he would not be able to win all those Grand Slams and Nadal might have been the GOAT.
yep pro baseball player Shin Soo Choo received an exemption for carrying S.Korea to a championship in the 2010 Asian Games.
 

gsharma

Professional
Military service in Switzerland is "compulsory" ... what is the consequence of not fulfilling this obligation according to Swiss laws? As you say... you have to pay 3% additional income tax (which is a lot of dosh from a star like Federer). I'm sure he paid a fair amount because of this in his 20s. Then at 30 it stops... this is a SWISS law. Why are you arguing like Federer is crapping on the system? He's abiding by it.

Second point, with the 3% additional income tax coming from Federer in his 20s, he has benefited his country and government far more that way than if he'd done his time in the service cleaning tanks and rifles all day.

Third point, he's a national icon. Skipping the service (which would have affected his tennis career progression) has benefited his country FAR more than had he gone. How can you say the decision he made wasn't the right one for not just him, but for his country?

Dedans, I remember you from when I frequented this forum all the time half a decade ago. You were much more on form back then.
I'd be interested in knowing how Swiss tax laws work. AFAIK, United States and an African country are the only ones that tax their citizens regardless of which country they physically live in.

Since Federer spends majority of his time travelling and has a residence in Dubai, I have a feeling his tax obligation in Switzerland is quite low. Not sure though.
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
Two years of mil service would have toughened Federer, he would not have caved in to the Caveman :) repeatedly.
 

jwjh

Legend
1. It is "Age of Maturity" not Majority
ma·jor·i·ty
[muh-jawr-i-tee, -jor-] Show IPA
noun, plural ma·jor·i·ties.

1. the greater part or number; the number larger than half the total ( opposed to minority ): the majority of the population.

2. a number of voters or votes, jurors, or others in agreement, constituting more than half of the total number.

3. the amount by which the greater number, as of votes, surpasses the remainder ( distinguished from plurality ).

4. the party or faction with the majority vote: The Democratic party is the majority.

5. the state or time of being of full legal age: to attain one's majority.
 

MAXXply

Hall of Fame
Isn't Manny Pacquiao a (honorary) 5-star general in the Phillippines army or something?

I wouldn't be surprised if Shahar Peer worked for MOSSAD on the side
 

bezs

G.O.A.T.
If Baggy can be granted exemption from military service what more the GOAT.

I've done compulsory military service and i can tell you its an absolute waste of time.
 
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Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
......his time in the service cleaning tanks and rifles all day.
The Swiss military seem to be good for (obvious joke alert) making knives and (badly obvious joke alert) hoarding **** gold.

Yes, I Godwinned this thread! Can't believe it took this long to happen.:twisted:
 

OTMPut

Hall of Fame
Military is the least useful of all modern institutions (i cringe using this word in this context). I don't give a damn even if someone deserts it.
 
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