SERENA: simply the best!

ktid

Rookie
If Serena carries on this form (unlikely but no impossible) we could easily see a second serena slam
 

kiki

Banned
The Great Seles in her latest interview said: "half of fraulein's majors would have been mine if not for her assassin". lol

Graf´s era was so strong, they even had a possible murderer to chancel her main rival´s chances... An era with top players named Wozniacky,Azarenka,Kirilenko,Safina,Dementieva,Zvonareva,The Chinese,fat Schiavone or that aussie Stosur is a very bad joke.
 

The-Champ

Legend
Graf´s era was so strong, they even had a possible murderer to chancel her main rival´s chances... An era with top players named Wozniacky,Azarenka,Kirilenko,Safina,Dementieva,Zvonareva,The Chinese,fat Schiavone or that aussie Stosur is a very bad joke.

You know I usually agree with your assessment and admire your knowledge of tennis history but you are not telling the whole truth here. Serena won several of her majors in the era of Capriati, Davenport, Venus, Hingis, Mauresmo, Clijsters, Henin, Kuznetsova. Don't forget that Kiks ;)
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
And Serena is not only a serve player. At her best, she would crush every return and very solid off both wings.

Pay no attention to the bitter trolls in this and other threads; Serena did not win 14 singles majors and Olympic gold being a serve-only or baseline-centric player. Anyone not driven by their sick agenda of hate knows Serena succeeds because of a powerful all-court game (helped by a strong doubles game) and out thinking others--like Sharapova--who still think blasting the ball is a strategy. Great talent transcends generations, much like that of the legendary Laver.
 

jmverdugo

Hall of Fame
Guys, do not get your panties in a bunch, this is just my opinion, I just think that, the way Serena is playing now days, she is invincible, forget Graf forehand and movement, forget Higins smart court tennis, I just pretty much go with Mike T on this one "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth".
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
Graf´s era was so strong, they even had a possible murderer to chancel her main rival´s chances... An era with top players named Wozniacky,Azarenka,Kirilenko,Safina,Dementieva,Zvonareva,The Chinese,fat Schiavone or that aussie Stosur is a very bad joke.

I agree about the era argument but anyone denying Serena's strength has an agenda. We've never seen a female tennis player with such weapons (and as we I mean those who are contemporaries of past WTA eras).
 

TERRASTAR18

Hall of Fame
Graf´s era was so strong, they even had a possible murderer to chancel her main rival´s chances... An era with top players named Wozniacky,Azarenka,Kirilenko,Safina,Dementieva,Zvonareva,The Chinese,fat Schiavone or that aussie Stosur is a very bad joke.

dementieva was better than 98 percent of graf's rivals not named seles or navratilova. venus is better than all of them.
 

kiki

Banned
dementieva was better than 98 percent of graf's rivals not named seles or navratilova. venus is better than all of them.

It is the same argument as Federer.2 undeniable great champions who have had the misfortune to play in the weakest of eras.
 

kiki

Banned
dementieva was better than 98 percent of graf's rivals not named seles or navratilova. venus is better than all of them.

Dementieva is a journeywoman.

Venus, at least, was more feminine than her sister.And as good an athlete.
 

TERRASTAR18

Hall of Fame
Dementieva is a journeywoman.

Venus, at least, was more feminine than her sister.And as good an athlete.

she was a multiple time top 10 player and olympic gold medalist. well i don't use you as the ultimate judge on sexy. you like others flat chested blondes as the ideal. since venus is closer to that you of course pick her.
 

kiki

Banned
she was a multiple time top 10 player and olympic gold medalist. well i don't use you as the ultimate judge on sexy. you like others flat chested blondes as the ideal. since venus is closer to that you of course pick her.

Since when being a top tenner and Olympic Gold medallist is a big deal?

Venus is as much tanned as her sister, but has curves.That is it.
 

jmverdugo

Hall of Fame
Since when being a top tenner and Olympic Gold medallist is a big deal?

Venus is as much tanned as her sister, but has curves.That is it.

So been among the top 10 best in the world and having a medal that says you beat them in a single event is NOT a big deal? Boy ... and I was feeling pretty good with my weekend tourney trophies and my city championship T-shirt...
 

kiki

Banned
So been among the top 10 best in the world and having a medal that says you beat them in a single event is NOT a big deal? Boy ... and I was feeling pretty good with my weekend tourney trophies and my city championship T-shirt...

Sandy Meyer was also a top tenner, and didn´t win the olimpics but won Stockholm, a major indoor event...
 

Evan77

Banned
Whether you like her or not this women is not only the best today but candidate for best ever. Her serve is better than any women that has ever played the game, just AWESOME.

nope, she is far, far from being 'best ever', not even a candidate. never was, never will be, but nice try :).
 

kiki

Banned
You know I usually agree with your assessment and admire your knowledge of tennis history but you are not telling the whole truth here. Serena won several of her majors in the era of Capriati, Davenport, Venus, Hingis, Mauresmo, Clijsters, Henin, Kuznetsova. Don't forget that Kiks ;)

I think her first 5 years may be worthy double or triple than the last few years, because the level of competition has decreased a lot.Myself I rate the second half of the 90´s the toughest era for women´s tennis and Serena was certainly one of its top champions.
 

Polaris

Hall of Fame
Serena ought to be in any conversation for best ever, no question about that.

Didn't care much about today's match. The less the women shriek the better it is, so I'm glad that was over in a hurry. :)
 

djokovic2008

Hall of Fame
nope, she is far, far from being 'best ever', not even a candidate. never was, never will be, but nice try :).

Obviously you have an agenda but it does not take away that when she retires she will go as maybe the best ever or even the best.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
She should write a book, "How to win Olympic Gold Medal in 6 hours"

She basically worked as much as Federer and Del Potro did

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Evan77

Banned
Obviously you have an agenda but it does not take away that when she retires she will go as maybe the best ever or even the best.
nope, no agenda at all ... I don't mind Serena at all, it's just that Graf/ poor stabbed Seles/Navratilova etc. are much better players. and again, nope she will never be considered 'the best ever' ... too many guys here simply have very short memory
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
nope, no agenda at all ... I don't mind Serena at all, it's just that Graf/ poor stabbed Seles/Navratilova etc. are much better players. and again, nope she will never be considered 'the best ever' ... too many guys here simply have very short memory

Seles? Please. Though she was not a slouch player elsewhere, when she was at her height, she was a disaster at Wimbledon, as she did not have the skills to prove her worth there (and by worth, I mean more than winning one fluke title), which calls some of her portfolio into question as in the case of the other no-good-on-grass player, Justine Henin.
 
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TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
nope, no agenda at all ... I don't mind Serena at all, it's just that Graf/ poor stabbed Seles/Navratilova etc. are much better players. and again, nope she will never be considered 'the best ever' ... too many guys here simply have very short memory

Yep, they sure do. Or they have never seen Graf/Seles played in the 90s.
 
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