breakfast_of_champions said:tough to tell whos gonna show up in these womens matches. i think the winner of this semi wins the tournament. i think jhh really hasnt been tested.
cuddles26 said:I disagree. This match is just to determine who will definitely be losing to Henin Hardenne in the final. Henin hasnt been tested? That is not correct, she had a tough test with Davenport today, and one vs Sugiyama it turned out in the 3rd round.
There is no way Justine is letting herself lose 3 slam finals in the same year. The level of tennis she is playing this tournament is cleary superior to both Sharapova in Mauresmo. I will go on record now in saying Justine will not only win the final, but no set will go beyond 6-4 Justine either.
breakfast_of_champions said:davenport barely moved today. dont count jankovic out.
cuddles26 said:Davenport moves like she normaly does. She is not a great mover and that has always been a liability. She still is extremely tough to play agaisnt because of her cleanly struck overpowering serves, returns, and groundies off both sides. Mauresmo who has lost 11 straight times, and Sharapova who has a 6-0, 6-0 lose, both know this. Henin was just too good.
Right now Henin is in the zone. She is on a mission to salvage her year by winning a 2nd slam to go with a 4th slam final, and establish herself back on top of womens game over Mauresmo. She is hitting over double the winners of errors, neither Sharapova or Mauresmo has a prayer if she does that vs them. They need many more errors then that for Henin to beat her and she is not making them and wont in the final either..
As for Jankovic, she wont even last an hour, she is a shock to even be this far.
breakfast_of_champions said:a "healthy" davenport is 1-4 against sharapova, and mauresmo already beat justine at wimby. davenport hasnt won a tournament all year. her groundstrokes are about 80% and her movement is about 60%.
we'll see saturday.
davenport is 1-4 versus maria. heres the link.
and henins wins against maria are on clay. maria had a shoulder injury at the ao and nearly skipped it.
amelia showed against serena her game is getting better every match.
she plays like justine but is bigger and faster. and i dont think justine is as good as she was a couple years ago.
cuddles26 said:Justine certainly never in any recent years suffered the embarassment of a 6-0, 6-0 thumping like Maria did or even close to that.
justineheninhoogenbandfan said:It is pretty obvious breakfast-champions is an intense Justine Henin hater. Just ignore the troll everyone.
breakfast_of_champions said:actually, i like justine, and play similiar to her. she a great story. facts is facts thats all.
justineheninhoogenbandfan said:Your facts thus far are flawed opinions or have no relevance. Sharapova doing well vs Davenport is meaningless since Henin has dominated Davenport even moreso in recent years, whether she was healthy or not. Your opinion that Davenport is playing between 60-80% is also just an opinion and a flawed one at that. Your statement Justine has not had a real test is a fallacy since it is far from clear Davenport would be an easier opponent then Serena at this point in time, and players like Safina or Golovin fail to do anything for that argument. Any insinuation that Sharapova has done anything to make her a better bet then Henin is bogus.
The only thing you say that has any ounce of credability is that Mauresmo beat Justine in those 2 slam finals. Well anyone who thinks rationaly would realize that Mauresmo beating Henin in 3 slam finals is very unlikely anyway, and Justine has played the superior tennis thus far in the tourament by a long ways.
exruda said:I say Mauresmo fairly easily, unless Sharapova really picks up her game form what we've seen in the last matches
breakfast_of_champions said:i think she'll play looser against mauresmo, since people expect her to lose.
breakfast_of_champions said:and lindsay has had a back injury all year. to say that lindsay is at the top of her game is slly. maria won san diego and beat clistjers. shes in the mix and the oddsmakers think so as well.
breakfast_of_champions said:yellow-because people expect her to lose against the best player in the world, so theres less pressure. i'm sure she doesn't listen to the media. not being able to get past the semis is a problem shared by 99% of the wta. theres more pressure against someone like golovin in a quarterfinal match,whos ranked lower, but has a lot of talent. maria had more to lose against golovin. if she loses against amelia, she loses nothing, cause shes matained her ranking and points. if she wins she move up.
cuddles26 said:To say Serena who Mauresmo lost the second set 6-0 to is at the top of her game is silly too. So what is your point? Justine has more domination over a "healthy" Lindsay in the past then Maria does, and Lindsay at this U.S Open is still miles better then Li Na or Golovin who Maria struggled with. So what is your point? You have none and enjoy talking out of your ass.
FuriousYellow said:That's true, but 99.9% of the WTA tour didn't win a major at 17 and don't have the expectations placed on them to win another that Sharapova does. It isn't enough for her to just make it into the semis anymore even though that would be considered a great result by the rest of that 99%. It certainly wasn't enough for Mauresmo and she knew it.
In regard to the pressure of rankings, Mauresmo lost in the quarters of the USO last year so she has already gained points whether she wins or loses. She is, however, under pressure from #2 Henin-Hardenne who lost in the R16 last year and will pick up a ton of points if she wins it all.
breakfast_of_champions said:golovin is better than davenport right now.
ACE of Hearts said:I will go on record and say that Mauresmo will capture 3 out of 4 slams this year.Mauresmo will beat Sharapova and then beat Henin.
justineheninhoogenbandfan said:Do you realize you just make yourself look dumber by the minute? Oh yeah Davenport thumped your precious Mauresmo pretty good last week.
lambielspins said:I dont like Justine much but it is funny to see breakfast__of__champions taking a beating out there while determined to push her flawed arguments which nobody is buying.
breakfast_of_champions said:i do know mauresmo destroyed justine at the ao, in the biggest digrace in ao history, and then beat her again wimbledon.
breakfast_of_champions said:nobody is buying? nice meet you mr. nobody.
capriatifanatic said:breakfast-champions we get that you dont like Justine Henin, we get that you have a hard on for Sharapova and Mauresmo. You keep repeating the same things and you have run out of ideas. Move on rather them embarass yourself more.
I tried to argue Capriati being superior to Henin, and having a better chance to win the event if she were healthy and "in her prime" and most here disagreed but atleast I acknowledged what others were arguing and tried to come up with valid points. You really are putting up a lame attempt at proving anything.
justineheninhoogenbandfan said:It is pretty obvious breakfast-champions is an intense Justine Henin hater. Just ignore the troll everyone.
justineheninhoogenbandfan said:Do you realize you just make yourself look dumber by the minute? Oh yeah Davenport thumped your precious Mauresmo pretty good last week.
breakfast_of_champions said:tough to tell whos gonna show up in these womens matches. i think the winner of this semi wins the tournament. i think jhh really hasnt been tested. maria felt the pressure against golovin. i think she'll play looser against mauresmo, since people expect her to lose.