Sharapova-Mauresmo semifinal

Sharapova-Mauresmo, who wins?

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tough to tell whos gonna show up in these womens matches. i think the winner of this semi wins the tournament. i think jhh really hasnt been tested. maria felt the pressure against golovin. i think she'll play looser against mauresmo, since people expect her to lose.
 

cuddles26

Banned
breakfast_of_champions said:
tough to tell whos gonna show up in these womens matches. i think the winner of this semi wins the tournament. i think jhh really hasnt been tested.

I disagree. This match is just to determine who will definitely be losing to Henin Hardenne in the final. Henin hasnt been tested? That is not correct, she had a tough test with Davenport today, and one vs Sugiyama it turned out in the 3rd round.

There is no way Justine is letting herself lose 3 slam finals in the same year. The level of tennis she is playing this tournament is cleary superior to both Sharapova in Mauresmo. I will go on record now in saying Justine will not only win the final, but no set will go beyond 6-4 Justine either.
 
cuddles26 said:
I disagree. This match is just to determine who will definitely be losing to Henin Hardenne in the final. Henin hasnt been tested? That is not correct, she had a tough test with Davenport today, and one vs Sugiyama it turned out in the 3rd round.

There is no way Justine is letting herself lose 3 slam finals in the same year. The level of tennis she is playing this tournament is cleary superior to both Sharapova in Mauresmo. I will go on record now in saying Justine will not only win the final, but no set will go beyond 6-4 Justine either.

davenport barely moved today. dont count jankovic out. talentwise the 3 or pretty equal. i just think jhh is not playing as well as she appears because of her draw.
 

cuddles26

Banned
breakfast_of_champions said:
davenport barely moved today. dont count jankovic out.

Davenport moves like she normaly does. She is not a great mover and that has always been a liability. She still is extremely tough to play agaisnt because of her cleanly struck overpowering serves, returns, and groundies off both sides. Mauresmo who has lost 11 straight times, and Sharapova who has a 6-0, 6-0 lose, both know this. Henin was just too good.

Right now Henin is in the zone. She is on a mission to salvage her year by winning a 2nd slam to go with a 4th slam final, and establish herself back on top of womens game over Mauresmo. She is hitting over double the winners of errors, neither Sharapova or Mauresmo has a prayer if she does that vs them. They need many more errors then that for Henin to beat her and she is not making them and wont in the final either..

As for Jankovic, she wont even last an hour, she is a shock to even be this far.
 
cuddles26 said:
Davenport moves like she normaly does. She is not a great mover and that has always been a liability. She still is extremely tough to play agaisnt because of her cleanly struck overpowering serves, returns, and groundies off both sides. Mauresmo who has lost 11 straight times, and Sharapova who has a 6-0, 6-0 lose, both know this. Henin was just too good.

Right now Henin is in the zone. She is on a mission to salvage her year by winning a 2nd slam to go with a 4th slam final, and establish herself back on top of womens game over Mauresmo. She is hitting over double the winners of errors, neither Sharapova or Mauresmo has a prayer if she does that vs them. They need many more errors then that for Henin to beat her and she is not making them and wont in the final either..

As for Jankovic, she wont even last an hour, she is a shock to even be this far.

a "healthy" davenport is 1-4 against sharapova, and mauresmo already beat justine at wimby. davenport hasnt won a tournament all year. her groundstrokes are about 80% and her movement is about 60%. the difference between an "injured" sharsapova and justine was two bad calls in the third set at the ao. its a tough call.

we'll see saturday.
 

cuddles26

Banned
breakfast_of_champions said:
a "healthy" davenport is 1-4 against sharapova, and mauresmo already beat justine at wimby. davenport hasnt won a tournament all year. her groundstrokes are about 80% and her movement is about 60%.

we'll see saturday.

Justine will not play a match as bad for her standards as she did in the Wimbledon final, and Mauresmo is playing nowhere near as well as at Wimbledon in this event. Even with Justine playing much worse then she will in the final Saturday, and Mauersmo playing much better then she seems capable of at this event, it still was a hard fought 3 setter.

Sharapova would have lost to Li Na and Golovin the way she played, if they had played half decent tennis. She does not have a prayer vs Henin, and only has a small chance vs Mauresmo since Amelie is also not playing that high a level so far.

Even if you feel Justine's level is inflated by her competion so far, it is still better then anything Sharapova and Mauresmo are doing. Mauresmo has not played a tough draw, Serena Williams on the comeback trail and still far from top shape bageled her in the 2nd set, Safina in the quarters-yeah that is tougher then Davenport, get real! Santangelo almost taking her out in the 3rd round. Sharapova struggling big time with the murderous draw of Li Na in the 4th round, and Golovin in the quartes.

A "healthy" Sharapova is 1-3 vs Henin, and her only win was Henin's first event back from a long layoff, and even that went 3 sets. Davenport also was injured in 2 of her losses to Maria, much more injured then she is right now, and it is 1-3, not 1-4.
 
your a diehard cuddles

davenport is 1-4 versus maria. heres the link.

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/...eaddetail.asp?PlayerID=310137&Player1ID=40106

and henins wins against maria are on clay. maria had a shoulder injury at the ao and nearly skipped it.

maria will have to play better than she did tonight, but golovin has some game, and the pressure was on maria, her being the favorite.

amelia showed against serena her game is getting better every match. she plays like justine but is bigger and faster. and i dont think justine is as good as she was a couple years ago.

enjoy.
 

cuddles26

Banned
davenport is 1-4 versus maria. heres the link.

Who cares, Henin has won her last 6 matches vs Davenport and here is the link:

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/...headdetail.asp?PlayerID=80350&Player1ID=40106

If you discount the 2 retirements she still has 4 straight wins vs Davenport.
Unlike Maria who cant ever beat Davenport in 3 sets Justine has 2 straight set wins over a "healthy" Davenport. Justine certainly never in any recent years suffered the embarassment of a 6-0, 6-0 thumping like Maria did or even close to that.

and henins wins against maria are on clay. maria had a shoulder injury at the ao and nearly skipped it.

Maria's only win over Justine was a 3 set win when Justine was just returning to tour. That proves nothing as well. Maria was playing well enough to be in the semis of the Australian Open, so boohoo to her big injury.

amelia showed against serena her game is getting better every match.

What a ridiculous statement. Serena is still far from top shape and still shoved a bagel down Amelie's throat in the middle set. Wow, that is convincing. :rolleyes:

she plays like justine but is bigger and faster. and i dont think justine is as good as she was a couple years ago.

Incorrect. She actualy plays like Justine but hits the ball less hard, and is less fast around the court. She is a bigger women physicaly but in no way does translate to their games.
 
cuddles26 said:
Justine certainly never in any recent years suffered the embarassment of a 6-0, 6-0 thumping like Maria did or even close to that.

coulda swore mauresmo put a pretty good thumping on justine at the ao. something like 6-1, 2-0 (i got a tummy ache).
 
justineheninhoogenbandfan said:
It is pretty obvious breakfast-champions is an intense Justine Henin hater. Just ignore the troll everyone.

actually, i like justine, and play similiar to her. she a great story. facts is facts thats all.
 
breakfast_of_champions said:
actually, i like justine, and play similiar to her. she a great story. facts is facts thats all.

Your facts thus far are flawed opinions or have no relevance. Sharapova doing well vs Davenport is meaningless since Henin has dominated Davenport even moreso in recent years, whether she was healthy or not. Your opinion that Davenport is playing between 60-80% is also just an opinion and a flawed one at that. Your statement Justine has not had a real test is a fallacy since it is far from clear Davenport would be an easier opponent then Serena at this point in time, and players like Safina or Golovin fail to do anything for that argument. Any insinuation that Sharapova has done anything to make her a better bet then Henin is bogus.

The only thing you say that has any ounce of credability is that Mauresmo beat Justine in those 2 slam finals. Well anyone who thinks rationaly would realize that Mauresmo beating Henin in 3 slam finals is very unlikely anyway, and Justine has played the superior tennis thus far in the tourament by a long ways.
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
I want Justine to go all the way, but I'm not sure if her shoulder injury would let her. Did you see Justine get a treatment for it after she won the first set against Davenport?

If the shoulder condition worsens, it might turn into the Australian Open Final all over again.
 
justineheninhoogenbandfan said:
Your facts thus far are flawed opinions or have no relevance. Sharapova doing well vs Davenport is meaningless since Henin has dominated Davenport even moreso in recent years, whether she was healthy or not. Your opinion that Davenport is playing between 60-80% is also just an opinion and a flawed one at that. Your statement Justine has not had a real test is a fallacy since it is far from clear Davenport would be an easier opponent then Serena at this point in time, and players like Safina or Golovin fail to do anything for that argument. Any insinuation that Sharapova has done anything to make her a better bet then Henin is bogus.

The only thing you say that has any ounce of credability is that Mauresmo beat Justine in those 2 slam finals. Well anyone who thinks rationaly would realize that Mauresmo beating Henin in 3 slam finals is very unlikely anyway, and Justine has played the superior tennis thus far in the tourament by a long ways.

and lindsay has had a back injury all year. to say that lindsay is at the top of her game is slly. maria won san diego and beat clistjers. shes in the mix and the oddsmakers think so as well.
 

exruda

Semi-Pro
I say Mauresmo fairly easily, unless Sharapova really picks up her game form what we've seen in the last matches
 
exruda said:
I say Mauresmo fairly easily, unless Sharapova really picks up her game form what we've seen in the last matches

maria usually goes 3 sets in her loses, but she does need to cut down on those errors. amelias gonna make her hit a lot of balls.
 

FuriousYellow

Professional
breakfast_of_champions said:
i think she'll play looser against mauresmo, since people expect her to lose.

I'll never understand that philosophy. There's a lot of pressure on Sharapova. She's never beaten Mauresmo, even during Mauresmo's years when she struggled under pressure situations.

Sharapova's the one who hasn't gotten past the semi-finals of a major in two years and the one who's constantly under the public and media microscope.
 
yellow-because people expect her to lose against the best player in the world, so theres less pressure. i'm sure she doesn't listen to the media. not being able to get past the semis is a problem shared by 99% of the wta. theres more pressure against someone like golovin in a quarterfinal match,whos ranked lower, but has a lot of talent. maria had more to lose against golovin. if she loses against amelia, she loses nothing, cause shes matained her ranking and points. if she wins she move up.
 

cuddles26

Banned
breakfast_of_champions said:
and lindsay has had a back injury all year. to say that lindsay is at the top of her game is slly. maria won san diego and beat clistjers. shes in the mix and the oddsmakers think so as well.

To say Serena who Mauresmo lost the second set 6-0 to is at the top of her game is silly too. So what is your point? Justine has more domination over a "healthy" Lindsay in the past then Maria does, and Lindsay at this U.S Open is still miles better then Li Na or Golovin who Maria struggled with. So what is your point? You have none and enjoy talking out of your ass.
 

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
Seriously can anyone cut out the voice box of Sharapova? Last night she played a full 1 game with out screaming like a jackass and won it, then proceeded to go back to trying to destract her oponent with her screetching:rolleyes:

I hope Mo smacks the crap out of her
 

FuriousYellow

Professional
breakfast_of_champions said:
yellow-because people expect her to lose against the best player in the world, so theres less pressure. i'm sure she doesn't listen to the media. not being able to get past the semis is a problem shared by 99% of the wta. theres more pressure against someone like golovin in a quarterfinal match,whos ranked lower, but has a lot of talent. maria had more to lose against golovin. if she loses against amelia, she loses nothing, cause shes matained her ranking and points. if she wins she move up.

That's true, but 99.9% of the WTA tour didn't win a major at 17 and don't have the expectations placed on them to win another that Sharapova does. It isn't enough for her to just make it into the semis anymore even though that would be considered a great result by the rest of that 99%. It certainly wasn't enough for Mauresmo and she knew it.

In regard to the pressure of rankings, Mauresmo lost in the quarters of the USO last year so she has already gained points whether she wins or loses. She is, however, under pressure from #2 Henin-Hardenne who lost in the R16 last year and will pick up a ton of points if she wins it all.
 
cuddles26 said:
To say Serena who Mauresmo lost the second set 6-0 to is at the top of her game is silly too. So what is your point? Justine has more domination over a "healthy" Lindsay in the past then Maria does, and Lindsay at this U.S Open is still miles better then Li Na or Golovin who Maria struggled with. So what is your point? You have none and enjoy talking out of your ass.

golovin is better than davenport right now. davenport is retiring because she knows she can't play top flight tennis anymore. serena also destroyed hantuckova and anna ivanovioc, and played amelia closer than jhh did at wimby and the ao(WHERE JUSTINE HAD A TUMMY ACHE, LOL).
 
FuriousYellow said:
That's true, but 99.9% of the WTA tour didn't win a major at 17 and don't have the expectations placed on them to win another that Sharapova does. It isn't enough for her to just make it into the semis anymore even though that would be considered a great result by the rest of that 99%. It certainly wasn't enough for Mauresmo and she knew it.

In regard to the pressure of rankings, Mauresmo lost in the quarters of the USO last year so she has already gained points whether she wins or loses. She is, however, under pressure from #2 Henin-Hardenne who lost in the R16 last year and will pick up a ton of points if she wins it all.

im sure maria does feel some pressure to win, but its all in her mind.
 
I dont like Justine much but it is funny to see breakfast__of__champions taking a beating out there while determined to push her flawed arguments which nobody is buying.
 

ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
I will go on record and say that Mauresmo will capture 3 out of 4 slams this year.Mauresmo will beat Sharapova and then beat Henin.
 
Sharapova and Mauresmo could go either way. Justine will beat either one in the final in straight sets though. If Jen was here she would have beaten Justine in the final though.
 
ACE of Hearts said:
I will go on record and say that Mauresmo will capture 3 out of 4 slams this year.Mauresmo will beat Sharapova and then beat Henin.

So why do you think that? Do you think Justine will suddenly play much worse then she has so far in the final? That is the only way Mauresmo will beat her the way both have played so far. Remember she is not overplayed as she was going into Wimbledon.
 

ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
I just think it has been her year and will continue to be her year at the U.S Open.I am sure everybody was surprised by her taking wimbledon.Thats just my prediction, anything can happen, one things for sure, i will be surprise if Sharapova beats her in the semis!!!
 
justineheninhoogenbandfan said:
Do you realize you just make yourself look dumber by the minute? :p Oh yeah Davenport thumped your precious Mauresmo pretty good last week.

i do know mauresmo destroyed justine at the ao, in the biggest disgrace in ao history, and then beat her again wimbledon. and justine beat an aliing maria on bad line calls. hardly dominaton by justine.
 
lambielspins said:
I dont like Justine much but it is funny to see breakfast__of__champions taking a beating out there while determined to push her flawed arguments which nobody is buying.

nobody is buying? nice meet you mr. nobody.
 
breakfast_of_champions said:
i do know mauresmo destroyed justine at the ao, in the biggest digrace in ao history, and then beat her again wimbledon.

Dont you get bored repeating the same stuff. You always go back to your cop out lines rather then adressing the points of the person who made them. You really look like a jackass I am sorry to say. :rolleyes:
 
breakfast_of_champions said:
nobody is buying? nice meet you mr. nobody.

definition of buying ones argument=being swayed or convinced to believe what that person is saying makes sense and has value of truth.

You really are one of the fools of these boards. You should go a less advanced board where you make sense.
 
breakfast-champions we get that you dont like Justine Henin, we get that you have a hard on for Sharapova and Mauresmo. You keep repeating the same things and you have run out of ideas. Move on rather them embarass yourself more.

I tried to argue Capriati being superior to Henin, and having a better chance to win the event if she were healthy and "in her prime" and most here disagreed but atleast I acknowledged what others were arguing and tried to come up with valid points. You really are putting up a lame attempt at proving anything.
 
capriatifanatic said:
breakfast-champions we get that you dont like Justine Henin, we get that you have a hard on for Sharapova and Mauresmo. You keep repeating the same things and you have run out of ideas. Move on rather them embarass yourself more.

I tried to argue Capriati being superior to Henin, and having a better chance to win the event if she were healthy and "in her prime" and most here disagreed but atleast I acknowledged what others were arguing and tried to come up with valid points. You really are putting up a lame attempt at proving anything.

just one question? how many id's do you have?
 
justineheninhoogenbandfan said:
It is pretty obvious breakfast-champions is an intense Justine Henin hater. Just ignore the troll everyone.

justineheninhoogenbandfan said:
Do you realize you just make yourself look dumber by the minute? :p Oh yeah Davenport thumped your precious Mauresmo pretty good last week.

breakfast_of_champions said:
tough to tell whos gonna show up in these womens matches. i think the winner of this semi wins the tournament. i think jhh really hasnt been tested. maria felt the pressure against golovin. i think she'll play looser against mauresmo, since people expect her to lose.

you are a total moron. congratulations.
 

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
Two of the worst games the whole USO was Sharapova vs mauresmo and then Justine, the played so badly it was as if they were litterally giving her the title:confused:
 
Yeah womens tennis these days are about who chokes. Maria the sleaze queen choked less then her other two opponents so she wins.
 
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