Should this forum create a special section for Federer?

[Impressario]

Delegating Federer to "Former Pro Player Talk" is almost as sacrilegious as putting him to "Pros' Rackets & Gears".

After all, were it not for Federer, this forum and the vast majority of the Bionic Posters, Goats, Hall of Famers and similar TT nonsense titles would never have existed.

 

[gjm127]

He should be kept here until Djokovic and Nadal also retire. When they do, we will create a new section entitled BIG-3.

That is all. Thank you.

 

[thrust]

He should be kept here until Djokovic and Nadal also retire. When they do, we will create a new section entitled BIG-3.

That is all. Thank you.

GOOD IDEA!

 

[aldeayeah]

He should be kept here until Djokovic and Nadal also retire. When they do, we will create a new section entitled BIG-3.

That is all. Thank you.

Why wait? Let's quarantine all that inane crap NOW!

 

[Mark-Touch]

But what is there now to say about Federer, since he has retired?
The book has been closed.

 

[Federev]

In before Sureshs posts: “this thread needs to be moved to the ‘Former Pro Player Talk’ forum”.

 

[initialize]

He should be kept here until Djokovic and Nadal also retire. When they do, we will create a new section entitled BIG-3.

That is all. Thank you.

Fed is more special than them though and undoubtedly needs his own section

 

[dadadas]

We need to move on from Fed. No need to create a section for the guy.

 

[Rosstour]

Absolutely, I've been saying this since the ceremony

@TW Staff make it happen!

At least a B3-B4 forum...

 

[juanparty]

i love Feddy and im his biggest fan, but Former Pro Players Talk is enough.
Why doesn't Pete Sampras have his own section if he did dominate his era with an iron fist?

 

[Tennfan123]

No.
It’s this sense of ‘special’ and cult of personality which has ruined tennis coverage.
Federer was a very fine and beguiling player. But he’s one of many who have contributed to the sport. He belongs in former pros. He won’t mind anyway as he loves the idea of tennis as a team sport.

 

[ffw2]

Terms of enforcement of the new quarantine protocol?

Talking consequences here.

 

[tennis_pro]

He should be kept here until Djokovic and Nadal also retire. When they do, we will create a new section entitled BIG-3.

That is all. Thank you.

just rename the general pro player section, 95% of the posts are about them, anyway

 

[juanparty]

i love Feddy and im his biggest fan, but Former Pro Players Talk is enough.
Why doesn't Pete Sampras have his own section if he did dominate his era with an iron fist?

 

[Federev]

i love Feddy and im his biggest fan, but Former Pro Players Talk is enough.
Why doesn't Pete Sampras have his own section if he did dominate his era with an iron fist?

Herold, you need to let Peter go.

It’s time.

Then we can talk about Fed going away.

I promise.

 

[octobrina10]

Should this forum create a special section for Federer?

Fed devotees need to accept the reality that Fed is a former pro player.

 

[Bud]

Third best in his generation doesn't deserve anything special.

 

[octobrina10]

@Impressario

I checked, there is enough space in Former Pro Player Talk to create whatever:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?forums/former-pro-player-talk.37/

 

[octobrina10]

Delegating Federer to "Former Pro Player Talk" is almost as sacrilegious as putting him to "Pros' Rackets & Gears".

After all, were it not for Federer, this forum and the vast majority of the Bionic Posters, Goats, Hall of Famers and similar TT nonsense titles would never have existed.

Those titles ("Bionic Posters, Goats, Hall of Famers and similar TT nonsense titles") just show the number of posts from that poster, nothing else.

 

[Bud]

Those titles ("Bionic Posters, Goats, Hall of Famers and similar TT nonsense titles") just show the number of posts from that poster, nothing else.

Ditto with the reaction number nonsense.

 

[clayqueen]

After Fedr had been sidelined for the best part of two years, I once suggested that he should be discussed in the pro player forum but my post was reported and deleted for trolling. Even Fed didn't know what I already knew - that he had retired.

 

[clayqueen]

Federer will be in the Tennis Hall of Fame but I don't see a staue of him anywhere.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Federer can get his own when Laver, Pancho, Pete, Borg get their own. He aint bigger than the game

 

[Spencer Gore]

TTW doesn't have a special section for the best players of their own era, so it would be ludicrous to have a section for the third best of an era.

 

[Martin J]

It should and Spencer Gore is by far the best candidate to be its moderator.

 

[Mainad]

Federer will be in the Tennis Hall of Fame but I don't see a staue of him anywhere.

Possibly at Halle (already has a street there named after him) or at his home event, Basel.

They already have his hologram greeting visitors to the Hall of Fame which suggests to me that they might as well just induct him now instead of waiting the statutory 5 years.

 

[juanparty]

They could do several sections.

GOATS
Gonzalez, Laver, Borg, Sampras, Rafa, Djoker.

SEMI-GOATS
Connors, Agassi, Lendl, Becker, McEnroe, Edberg, Wilander, Rosewall

THIRDWHEELERS
Feddy

MUGS
Hewitt, Phylypoussis, Gonzo, Baghdatis, Ljubicic

MUGS 2 tiers
Tsitpipas.

 

[estigma2001]

NO just create a thread here:
Former Pro Player Talk | Talk Tennis (tennis-warehouse.com)

 

[ND-13]

Federer will be in the Tennis Hall of Fame but I don't see a staue of him anywhere.

He has a whole Alley, not just a coordinate where a statue can stand.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

TTW doesn't have a special section for the best players of their own era, so it would be ludicrous to have a section for the third best of an era.

Even if one considers Nadal and Djokovic to be unquestionably superior to Federer, Federer was undoubtedly the best of his era. From Wimbledon 2003 to AO 2010 he was absolutely dominant and that is more than enough to be considered an era.

If he had retired in 2012-2014 nobody would question he was the best of his era. So it's ridiculous to say he wasn't just because he had a long career instead of being done in his 20s like Sampras.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

He should be kept here until Djokovic and Nadal also retire. When they do, we will create a new section entitled BIG-3.

That is all. Thank you.

I second this.

 

[Herald]

Herold, you need to let Peter go.

It’s time.

Then we can talk about Fed going away.

I promise.

Don't you think it's a bit ironic for you to talk about letting a tennis player go? Your post is also reportable because you are implying I have a double account.

 

[optic yellow]

It seems like it would be easy to keep Federer threads in GPPD until Djokovic and Nadal retire.

 

[Herald]

Even if one considers Nadal and Djokovic to be unquestionably superior to Federer, Federer was undoubtedly the best of his era. From Wimbledon 2003 to AO 2010 he was absolutely dominant and that is more than enough to be considered an era.

If he had retired in 2012-2014 nobody would question he was the best of his era. So it's ridiculous to say he wasn't just because he had a long career instead of being done in his 20s like Sampras.

Your era was always the period you won your first slam to when you hung up your racket. Pete's was 12 years and he was unquestionably the best of that time. Fed chose to stick around for 19 and modern medicine allowed it, and he is unquestionably the 3rd best. Being sour grapes and trying to denigrate Pete's longevity which was perfectly normal for its time, as we see Federer's is also normal and not unique among the best of his time, does not change this fact. It is in fact salt, and I have already had my evening salad.

 

[DSH]

Accept it now and stop being troglodytes: Federer is already Finnish!

 

[Carax]

He should be kept here until Djokovic and Nadal also retire. When they do, we will create a new section entitled BIG-3.

That is all. Thank you.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

Your era was always the period you won your first slam to when you hung up your racket. Pete's was 12 years and he was unquestionably the best of that time. Fed chose to stick around for 19 and modern medicine allowed it, and he is unquestionably the 3rd best. Being sour grapes and trying to denigrate Pete's longevity which was perfectly normal for its time, as we see Federer's is also normal and not unique among the best of his time, does not change this fact. It is in fact salt, and I have already had my evening salad.

Agassi was from Sampras's generation and played until his mid-30s at a competitive level. It was possible to play longer, it's his fault if he was struggling against the newer generation of Hewitt, Federer, Safin, etc.

OTOH, all of Federer's contemporaries retired way earlier than him. Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Nalbandian, Davydenko, Coria, Ferrero, etc. The only exception was Feliciano Lopez but he's a second-tier level player at best. Federer was an anomaly playing until that age. Even players AFTER him declined considerably earlier like Berdych, Tsonga, Wawrinka, etc.

If Sampras had had Federer's longevity, he wouldn't have been the best of his era (according to this logic) as he would have been still active during Federer's dominance.

Both Federer and Sampras were the best of their era, however, it's a pointless argument. One of Nadal/Djokovic is not the best of his era and they're far better than others that were. This is just a lame argument fans of one player use to justify their player being inferior to another one. "Well, he achieved much more, but there was another one during this time that achieved more.".

Cristiano Ronaldo is the 2nd best footballer of his era, and he is much better than others that were the best during their era.

 

[dapchai]

Accept it now and stop being troglodytes: Federer is already Finnish!

Fedr is already @I Am Finnish

 

[Fabresque]

He should be kept here until Djokovic and Nadal also retire. When they do, we will create a new section entitled BIG-3.

That is all. Thank you.

GPPD would be a barren wasteland if we created a B3 section. The entire thing is run by Federer, Nadal, Djokovic.

 

[nov]

Yes with name Cry section.

 

[Herald]

Agassi was from Sampras's generation and played until his mid-30s at a competitive level. It was possible to play longer, it's his fault if he was struggling against the newer generation of Hewitt, Federer, Safin, etc.

OTOH, all of Federer's contemporaries retired way earlier than him. Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Nalbandian, Davydenko, Coria, Ferrero, etc. The only exception was Feliciano Lopez but he's a second-tier level player at best. Federer was an anomaly playing until that age. Even players AFTER him declined considerably earlier like Berdych, Tsonga, Wawrinka, etc.

If Sampras had had Federer's longevity, he wouldn't have been the best of his era (according to this logic) as he would have been still active during Federer's dominance.

Both Federer and Sampras were the best of their era, however, it's a pointless argument. One of Nadal/Djokovic is not the best of his era and they're far better than others that were. This is just a lame argument fans of one player use to justify their player being inferior to another one. "Well, he achieved much more, but there was another one during this time that achieved more.".

Cristiano Ronaldo is the 2nd best footballer of his era, and he is much better than others that were the best during their era.

Sorry, the argument doesn't work. Agassi had a small break that allowed him to keep going, unlike Pete.

There is no Djokodal era. This is not controversial. It is the big 3 era, and Federer is #3. And it's fine. He is the best #3 of all time.

 

[Backspin1183]

Mods, please move this thread to 'Former Pro Player Talk' section.

 

[sureshs]

Please move this thread to Former player section.

 

[Herald]

Please move this thread to Former player section.

Seconded

 

[Clay lover]

I definitely support talking Federer here until all members of the big three retire. As Rafa said part of Federer lives in him and both Djokodal remain to continue Fed's legacy.

What I definitely propose though is keeping Djoko conspiracy theorist drivel to a separate board.

 

[Slicehand]

Federer has its own forum, this is a tennis forum, no player is above the game, no one

 

[junior74]

Third best in his generation doesn't deserve anything special.

Insanely superior in is own era. Did pretty well in the Djokodal era, too.

None of them needs their own sections.

 

[Backspin1183]

Federer deserves to be in the GPPD section as long as Rafa and Novak are not retired.

They are not one person.

 

[USMC-615]

Only when CrAzY NiCk gets his own special section shall this happen...

 

[Russeljones]

Former Player is exactly where he belongs.