Starting Crosses question

I have been starting my crosses with a starting knot. After watching yulites video of starting the crosses with a starting clamp I have a question and greatly appreciate your feedback. Other than convenience of being able to tie a Finishing knot (i.e. Pro Knot, double half hitch etc.) are ther other benefits of this technique. Is one technique better than the other (provides a better result)?
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I think the starting clamp method is better. If you have fixed clamps you can use the starting clamp to hold the top cross until you are done with all your crosses and you will have less drawback when you tie off the top cross because ther string bed is stiffer, the mains are tighter and there is more friction on the mains and the top cross.

If you have floating clamps you can clamp the top two cross as far from the tie off grommet as possible. Pull tension on the top cross and clamp it with a starting clamp then pull tension on the second cross and clamp it to the top cross held by the starting clamp. Continue stringing all your crosses and tie off the bottom and top crosses for the same as above benefit. If you do not use a starting clamp how do you hold the top cross when flying clamps have to clamp two strings to work properly.

Irvin
 
I think the starting clamp method is better. If you have fixed clamps you can use the starting clamp to hold the top cross until you are done with all your crosses and you will have less drawback when you tie off the top cross because ther string bed is stiffer, the mains are tighter and there is more friction on the mains and the top cross.

If you have floating clamps you can clamp the top two cross as far from the tie off grommet as possible. Pull tension on the top cross and clamp it with a starting clamp then pull tension on the second cross and clamp it to the top cross held by the starting clamp. Continue stringing all your crosses and tie off the bottom and top crosses for the same as above benefit. If you do not use a starting clamp how do you hold the top cross when flying clamps have to clamp two strings to work properly.

Irvin
:) the wrong way. Will follow your instruction from now on. (I should have asked that question about 6 racquets ago **Disclaimer I only string for myself and have just recently started**)
 
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jim e

Legend
I use a starting clamp to start my crosses, so all knots are the same,and you would not be tying off on a main string and pulling tension against it, and when using thin gut or other 'fragile' multifilament strings, and especially at higher tensions, it is not uncommon to snap that first cross string right at the knot or at the two sharp turns the string makes, With using a starting clamp, you do not pull tension against these turns.

A good % of the time I start cross string similar to mains, by pulling the 1st 2 cross strings, and setting the anchor clamp on the 2nd cross string farthest from the tension head, then pull the first cross string and tie off, then weave one ahead and then tension 2nd cross and continue on as normal, as this works nice, and no starting clamp even needed if you prefer not to pull against a single clamp like that.

On another note one time I pulled against the starting clamp with an all VS gut job, and the string pulled through the starting clamp when starting with that 1st tension as that puts the most force on a clamp, but this was my own error as the starting clamp was not kept clean as I routinely kept the machines clamps clean but not the starting clamp, so be that a lesson to all, keep the starting clamp clean as well.That incident made me go to starting cross strings like I posted in above paragraph, as that works real nice.
 

neverstopplaying

Professional
I've always liked the look of the starting knot, but this method seems to make more sense. I'll try it out on my next string job.
 

GlenK

Professional
Agree with Irvin's response in post #2. I got a starting clamp right after I started stringing and love it.
 
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