Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Didn't hit anyone in the eye this time, but it's enough to send the dude packing.
Also, there's a commentator on a doubles challenger match???
Tennis Player Pulls an El Shapo, gets Defaulted
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Didn't hit anyone in the eye this time, but it's enough to send the dude packing.
Also, there's a commentator on a doubles challenger match???
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
Was wondering if it was the same umpire on the receiving end of it when I read the thread title. 
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
Unlike the commentator, I don’t feel awful for Alex. This behavior needs to be nipped in the bud and it’s better to take the lesson now than at the higher levels.
Automatic default. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
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Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
To be fair, the guy looked like he was trying to hit the ball into the stratosphere like some other pros do it. He just effed up at the last moment and sent it straight into the crowd. Inexcusable behavior regardless.
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
I don’t trust a challenger level player to control the ball within the court let alone directed off-court.
On the other hand, I would be honored to get hit by a ball launched by Rafa. VAMOS !
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
It's Mike Cation, pretty much the voice of the challenger tour.
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
There is a history of allowing even tacitly condoning displays of frustration/anger from athletes. Maybe these displays started as a way to signal the coach, teammates, other competitors or crowd that you are giving best efforts ? Or is it just considered entertaining ?
It doesn’t really fly elsewhere. Imagine a surgeon launching his tools if frustrated while operating
or a lawyer chucking his notes after getting a bad ruling from the Judge . How about a pilot doing a barrel roll after getting denied a requested ATC clearance. That would be fun.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
It doesn’t really fly elsewhere. Imagine a surgeon launching his tools if frustrated while operating
Not for their patients or passengers it wouldn't.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
I feel sorry for his partner. He's done nothing wrong and yet, in effect, gets defaulted as well!
Tim Henman once got defaulted for hitting a ballgirl when he did something similar during a doubles match at Wimbledon when he was still a young up and coming player.
Tim Henman once got defaulted for hitting a ballgirl when he did something similar during a doubles match at Wimbledon when he was still a young up and coming player.
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
That‘s the nature of a partnership. Choose your partners wisely.
It might be interesting if the rule was to default only the player that hit the ball and the other player plays on.
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Chadalina
Guest
They would beat me 6-1 and i would beat you 6-0. Should give more credit to challenger lvl players, they are better than top college players
kingcheetah
Hall of Fame
LOL that's not great execution for a world-class player. Glad nobody got hurt.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Wait....that challenger tour commentator is NOT Jimmy Arias???
My life has been a lie.
Let’s not take the little money that these challenger players earn away from them. It’s a DQ and that’s that. He’s never going to make this mistake again. These aren’t spoiled millionaires you’re talking about, these are hard working passionate players who are barely able to break even.
Unlike the commentator, I don’t feel awful for Alex. This behavior needs to be nipped in the bud and it’s better to take the lesson now than at the higher levels.
Automatic default. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
Who said anything about taking his money away ? Was he even fined ? If he was or will be fined I'd have no issue with it. Players need to stop doing this. He didn't get the memo after El Shapo hit an umpire in the eye ?
In any event, your proposing the idea that each player gets one freebie ? You can launch a ball that winds up going errant one time without risking a fine. Or that fines should account for a players individual finances ?
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ElChivoEspañol
Hall of Fame
They would’ve given Kyrgios the trophy while he flipped the audience.
Umm.. you did? At least I assumed you're talking about prize money. Otherwise I have no idea what the heck you're saying here.
I never proposed any idea. The point is that people often applaud or at least condone things that a famous top player does, but find it easy to be harsh on the lesser known challenger player since they don't feel any sentimental attachment to them as they do to their favorite players. You also displayed that sentiment here:
Anyway, I see you're a Nadal fan so maybe I shouldn't expect too much common sense from you.
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
I did not. You apparently don't understand (common) American idioms ?
That's on me for intentionally not writing for the broadest possible audience."Let’s not take the little money that these challenger players earn away from them. It’s a DQ and that’s that."
Sounds like an idea.
Your latest idea is not entirely clear to me. That punishment is generally too harsh on challenger players relative to certain favored ATP pros ? Or that I'm advocating for that ? Or both ?
How did Nadal get into this conversation ?
While I don't see the relevance (though I acknowledge you seem to think it goes to my common sense), I do enjoy watching Nadal play.
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tennis tom
Legend
(accompanied to violin music) : Oh the poor dears, so put upon--having to play tennis ALL day--not really--getting pre and post event massages--customized racket stringing for their FREE rackets, free clothes, free shoes--free housing at millionaires mansions--free transportation--lounging about the players lounge texting--free food--adoring fans/groupies--YAH, your right--I wouldn't trade places with them in a NY minute--working at a car wash is SO much more rewarding--the poor down trodden dear--don't deprive him of his $200 for tattooing a spectator's stomach--OUCH!--"He's never going to make that mistake again."--Kyrigos learned his lesson from being fined--we'll see. (end violin music)
