The Official Angell Users Club

Ok, thank you, this does help. I see that grip C is not a completely even octagon but is like a Prince shape. (I think that Angell should take the "even-sided" language off the order form and post more accurate icons of the different shapes.)

Either the B or C would probably work for me fine. I'll tell you what i really like, though, is longer diagonal sides that are even with or perhaps more area than the small sides. That is what is produced when you take a standard/B/Dunlop type shape and build up the long sides with veneer strips. That way you get more space to feel the continental, service, and semi western grips, and I think perhaps more leverage on serve.

So my choice is getting the C shape size 4 and getting used to it, or B shape size 3 and building up the long sides like I have on current dunlops. At least now I know it will be fairly close either way.

Sorry to those who feel this discussion is boring or insanely picky, but I know there are some out there who appreciate those subtle differences ;)
 

Ft.S

Semi-Pro
Excellent and really interesting review, Ft.S. I've got a question for you and for anyone else who's had some experience with both Angell TC90 and Wilson PS85.
I own a PS85 reissue (the one available on TW 'til some time ago) and I love it. I got used to it and wouldn't go back to 95" (also own a BLX PS95). So, I'm searching for a stick with just a tad more free power and just a bit more forgiving, but with the same overall feel as the PS85. How would you compare TC90 and PS85? I'm a bit concerned about stiffness: PS85 reissue was listed at 66 RA if I'm not mistaken. TC90 is listed at 70 RA (I know the story about its actual stiffness breakdown). How would you describe and compare the feel/perceived stiffness of those two sticks?
Unfortunately I cannot compare those two, I have not played with the PS85. I really liked the TC90; yes it is a little less unforgiving than other TCs, but the power and accuracy are superb. Where I felt wanting was stability in returning very heavy balls. That is more to do with my less-than-developed technique and footwork, then the racquet. I switched to a different racquet that compensates me in that area more than TC90. I would only guess that TC90 would be more forgiving than PS85.

Additionally, I never felt stiffness was something noticeable compared to other TCs, I don't think 70RA is or would be an issue.
 
J

joohan

Guest
That is more to do with my less-than-developed technique and footwork, then the racquet.

That might not necessarily be true. I did not find TC90 to be particularly stable myself plus we're still talking about a midsize frame. I've just fully committed to TC100 63RA but just after 2 weeks I'm starting to reap the rewards. Huge sweetspot, penetrating power and spin, etc...just different animal compared to either TC90 or TC97 18x20.

If you really need a frame like TC90 for any reason, I'd really doubt either your credentials or decision making process once you start doubting your choice. TC90 is an exceptional frame but you really need to have the game to use it to its full potential. If you can't, you're to blame.

Edit: sorry for being so offensive. After deeper inspection, I mainly wrote the second paragraph to myself.
 
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Jouke

Professional
So I'm 1 month into my Angell TC100 63RA 300g 330mm purchased from a fellow TT member. I have been using a Prostaff 97 for the last year and a half. I was looking for something with a little less weight, a little more forgiving, and as stable as my PS97.

Rating my main strokes with each racquet:

PS97 1.FH 2. Serve 3. Volleys 4. BH

Angell 1.Volleys 2. BH 3. Serve 4. FH

Volleys: The Angell is much quicker and has a much bigger sweat spot than the PS97 and my volleys have been rewarded. Very stable, great for high volleys, low volleys, touch. I am more aggressive at the net because I have so much confidence in the frame.

BH: My OHBH topspin was decent with my PS97 as was my slice, my OHBH with my Angell is sweet, topspin, flat, slice. It might be time to run around my FH, lol. I have confidence to hit away.

Serve: I have much better pace with the Angell but thus far not as much control. I am hitting harder and deeper but my opponents are having an easier time returning my serve and I'm not getting as much directional control. There are times where I think its gonna click, but not often enough. I know I can get there. It boils down to I hold my serve more often with the PS97 (rarely broken) then the Angell (broken often). I don't have a big serve, I rely on placement and variety.

Forehand: this is my biggest issue. I am really struggling with the FH with the Angell. With the PS97, I'm fully dialed in. I'm not consistent with the Angell and am struggling keeping the ball in the court. Because I'm struggling to keep the ball in the court, I'm losing confidence in the shot.

String Setups: 1st- RS Lyon 49lbs. I used this for about 12 hours, good control, good comfort. It was really fantastic off the stringer. 2nd-my usual setup in my PS97 Lux Alu Power Soft/Sensation hybrid, 51/53. I really liked it at first but after several plays, it really got powerful. 3rd RS Lyon/Sensation hybrid 50/52. Off the stringing machine felt a little dead, 2nd try out on the court, felt pretty good. Probably my favorite setup yet.

I've done some tinkering with lead tape and and am now hoping I've found the right static weight for me. I have a small amt of lead tape at 12 and put a nickel under my butt cap and its coming in at 327grams. A little lighter than my PS97. I took a ball machine out for lunch today and that spec seemed to help my FH. I hit my FH for about 45 minutes and my serve for about 15. I hoping that repetition would turn things around on my FH and serve. If I can correct these shots, I will be one happy camper.

Really nice read! And comparable to my experiences. Can you explain to me, after coming from the PS97 why you chose the TC100 and not the TC97 18x20? I really liked the TC100, turned my Backhand into the best Backhand I have ever hit! But I just could not get the forehand dialed in.. I can foresee you leaving this frame. Not getting the forehand dialed in and struggling on your own serve just makes it sooo much harder to win.

if someone's used to blades then B would be his best choice?

Without a doubt!

On the Angell sizing: yes they are smaller. But not a full size, more like 3/4 size in my experience.
 

haqq777

Legend
if someone's used to blades then B would be his best choice?
Without a doubt!

On the Angell sizing: yes they are smaller. But not a full size, more like 3/4 size in my experience.
Yes, as @Jouke pointed out. Also, in my experience the 98 Blade CV grip size runs smaller than previous iterations of Blades. Almost everyone who hit with the CV version has said that to me too. Just something to keep in mind :)
 

galapagos

Hall of Fame
Yes, as @Jouke pointed out. Also, in my experience the 98 Blade CV grip size runs smaller than previous iterations of Blades. Almost everyone who hit with the CV version has said that to me too. Just something to keep in mind :)
Was asking more about the shape. Not sizing. Also imo A angell is even more pronounced than nowadays head
 

haqq777

Legend
Was asking more about the shape. Not sizing. Also imo A angell is even more pronounced than nowadays head
Ok. Angell Shape B then since Blades have traditional Wilson handles which correspond to Angell's shape B. One of my hitting partners has added that Wilson X2 Ergo Grip Booster on his handle as well for two handed backhand. Its still same as Shape B Angell.
 
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Kozzy

Hall of Fame
I did not find TC90 to be particularly stable myself plus we're still talking about a midsize frame.
- I haven't found any issue with stability with the TC90. I originally got the 330g/305 balance. It felt quite stable then, but have since taken some of the weight out of the handle (one set of weights). I also added about 4 grams total to the hoop (2g at 3 and 2g at 9). That makes the balance about 4pts HL, and I'm not sure what the weight is at this moment, but it's not far from 330g (maybe a bit above). In the current setup, it's even more rock solid. If you do like a true mid-sized racquet, the TC90 rocks.
 

ace18

Professional
Really nice read! And comparable to my experiences. Can you explain to me, after coming from the PS97 why you chose the TC100 and not the TC97 18x20? I really liked the TC100, turned my Backhand into the best Backhand I have ever hit! But I just could not get the forehand dialed in.. I can foresee you leaving this frame. Not getting the forehand dialed in and struggling on your own serve just makes it sooo much harder to win.


Hey Jouke, i decided to go for the TC100 for really 2 reasons. I'd never tried an Angell and it was a great price, secondly, as I approach 53, I was looking for something that might be a little more user friendly for me, larger headsize than what I'm used to. I've certainly thought of the TC97 and would consider picking one up with the right specs.

So, I played a match yesterday and it was a pretty solid performance all around, FH and Serve included. I moved the lead from 12 to 3/9 and feel that it made a difference. I still didn't have 100% confidence in cracking FH's, but, I was keeping them in play with great depth and very good consistency. I started off serving deep/out but dialed in with more spin and my serve was very effective, My partner and I won 7-6, 7-5 and I wasn't broken. I serve and volleyed 60% of the time and the volleys were just fantastic. I played with the Prince Ozone Tour on and off years ago and that was a great serve and volley stick. This one ranks right there if not better. Volleys just jump off the racquet for me.

The last 2 years I've had lots of shoulder and lower back issues. I wanted to try frames that didn't require so much work on my end that would also be stable and flexible. I wasn't really looking to change racquets, but the deal I found was worth me trying out the Angell TC100.[/QUOTE]
 

stephenclown

Professional
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Just arrived! first string choice vs team / alu rough at 48 / 44 or so. Will know how it plays tomorrow :)

Grip 3 feels correct to size compared to my other racquets. Perhaps a slight bit smaller but negligible. Next time I might get size 2 pallets but this is good for my wrist so I cant complain! Leather grip feels great as well.
 
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Hey Jouke, i decided to go for the TC100 for really 2 reasons. I'd never tried an Angell and it was a great price, secondly, as I approach 53, I was looking for something that might be a little more user friendly for me, larger headsize than what I'm used to. I've certainly thought of the TC97 and would consider picking one up with the right specs.

So, I played a match yesterday and it was a pretty solid performance all around, FH and Serve included. I moved the lead from 12 to 3/9 and feel that it made a difference. I still didn't have 100% confidence in cracking FH's, but, I was keeping them in play with great depth and very good consistency. I started off serving deep/out but dialed in with more spin and my serve was very effective, My partner and I won 7-6, 7-5 and I wasn't broken. I serve and volleyed 60% of the time and the volleys were just fantastic. I played with the Prince Ozone Tour on and off years ago and that was a great serve and volley stick. This one ranks right there if not better. Volleys just jump off the racquet for me.

The last 2 years I've had lots of shoulder and lower back issues. I wanted to try frames that didn't require so much work on my end that would also be stable and flexible. I wasn't really looking to change racquets, but the deal I found was worth me trying out the Angell TC100.
tc100 is just such an all round great performer ... that serve power and yet touch is great for so many players... a heavy ball is just such an important intangible but that is what it produces
 
I do the same with my TC 97 A handle. I flared the buttcap about 1/2 cm larger radius with slightly over 2 cm length with I believe leather, and many wraps of overgrip. Feels amazingly secure and stable. Looks ridiculous, but the feel really is pretty great. I find myself reaching for that Angell the most. I know I like it, but want to experiment on different flare sizes to see what fits. How much do you flare yours?
not as dramatic as gasquet... about as much as Stan

is by actually use my pinky particular on back hands and on a lot of serves I use it to create more racquet head speed. I am a violinist as well so I have a very developed pinky muscle from my bowing hand so the flare gives me more leverage.
 
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stephenclown

Professional
Hmm i have a chance to grab a 70 ra tc95 for 30% off new price specs i would want and same grip. Only difference is the ra, does it play much different and noticeable when swapping between the two stiffness ratings?
 

CosmosMpower

Hall of Fame
Hmm i have a chance to grab a 70 ra tc95 for 30% off new price specs i would want and same grip. Only difference is the ra, does it play much different and noticeable when swapping between the two stiffness ratings?

To me not so much in stiffness but maneuverability. I have both 70 and 63RA, I prefer the 70RA. I would go for it.
 

Brand77

Rookie
After some more playtime I am getting more in tune with the Tc100. Had a severe jaw inflammation last week with truckloads of painkillers and little food so my muscles are like jelly but still had a good training session today.
The racquet just oozes with confidence and really rewards a nice smooth stroke. I did add 10 grams under the buttcap to make it more HL which I like for netplay. On off centre hits it feels a bit less comfortable than my old racquet but that might have to do with the highly reduced thickness of the grip and decrease in weight.
All in all, very happy with the purchase. The solid feel when you get a perfect hit is very addictive :)
 

stephenclown

Professional
So first try with the 63RA 16x19 TC95 last night. First thing out of the way, this is unlike any frame I have played before, it is also light for me at 310g unstrung and 300 sw without strings.

Wearing a wrist brace severely limited my forehand and serve as I usually use wrist to impart spin/speed through the stroke like normal. Have not found the groove yet, due to ongoing injury and imminent surgery, going to shape my forehand after federer/del potro more into the future which should be interesting. Previously more like nadal? Difficult to say, heavy topspin to control but lower pace, grew up on clay courts so it became a natural stroke without even knowing of Nadal as a kid. 1 hand backhand inconsistent, mainly used for slice and re-positioning. Due to this injury I have taken so many breaks and have really declined in recent years with fitness and form, still only 27 so there is time to fix that!

I strung with VS Team Gut mains alu rough cross - 50/47. Grip size B3 was perfect, bevels enabled easy switching of grips, the black leather grip is really high quality, not slick at all and my stringer was surprised with how it actually felt.

So onto the actual playing:

Power - just wow, with the gut mains this has insane generation off backhand and forehand. I may need to up this to 53/49 or so for the next stringing. I have a similar setup in my RF97 and this setup I feel can put more pace on the backhand side, but flat shots with RF97 still king for the moment. Will need to weight up the Angell when my wrist is feeling better. I feel like it could easily be better than the RF97 for flat hitting due to such a great base for easy customisation. With the talk about low RA frames sucking power I couldn't agree less with this frame, it was a breeze to generate pace from all areas of the court.

Comfort - Ample comfort, really a fantastic frame to play with for my injured wrist. First time in a long time where a frame hasn't caused supreme discomfort and a lot of pain the next day. Still, my wrist is weak and gripping the handle is not like normal and still was really holding back on the forehand. Felt connected to the ball and was consistent feeling.

Backhands - This is where the frame shone for me last night. Easily the best backhands I have ever hit and for the first time had a compliment on the beauty of the stroke and consistency. Only issue was that the brace kept my wrist locked in so tight that top spin wasn't as easily imparted onto the ball so hit the net tape a lot or just over and fast. Great depth and placement around the court.

Slice - another highlight, this put some serious bite onto the ball, dropped heavily and stayed low all throughout the stroke on forehand and backhand. Some frames have caused issues, especially the pure aero, with floating the slice but this was consistent.

Topspin - Cannot comment at the moment, could not use any wrist lag for fear of immense pain. Even without using lag there is still discomfort and didn't play even close to full level on forehand and serve as well. Still topspin was available.

Manoeuvrability - great here, no complaints, thin beam and stable. Returns are fantastic because of this, whether slice or topspin (limited) off both sides. Need to weight it up a bit, probably need around 345-350 swing weight and should still be fine to move it around.

Overall - just started playing with it but it is a unique experience, solid for this swingweight and so soft but crisp when needed. It is going to be my go to frame. I am so happy with the purchase that when my other racquets sell I am going to buy 1 or 2 more from Paul. TC97 18x20 and either a 90 or 100 and then a second of whichever I love the most. Picking something and sticking to it and understanding it inside and out is how to get better and this racquet makes me finally want to do this, can't see myself looking elsewhere. Prior to trying it I was going to buy a DR98 but I feel it would be a waste as this frame size and plow makes backhands incredibly enjoyable and a beautiful stroke.
 
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stephenclown

Professional
I am so keen to try more to choose the best for me. I am loving the small head and its ease for slice and flat/top backhands.

I am locked into buying a TC97 18x20 at the moment, but would anyone suggest TC90 or TC100 to compliment? Perhaps I just get the TC97 at the moment...

I feel like the Pure Aero was terrible for 1hbh, sluggish etc and worried similar with other 100" frames being a similar story. I would prefer to work on technique, footwork and strength than just relying on frames to generate power if this helps.
 

Kozzy

Hall of Fame
I have no idea ;). I have not played with those (went straight for the TC90 and haven't looked back, yet). To me it feels like a slightly more powerful PS90 - probably about the same power as the VCore Tour F 93 I played with for a bit (but way more comfortable). It's very crisp (not harsh but not soft either) - and feels great. I've never hit a harder serve than I do with it, and my groundstrokes are ripping too (relatively speaking - let's not get ahead of ourselves...). Anyway, I wouldn't say you get a lot of free power, but it doesn't take anything away either. It'll give you what you put into it, plus perhaps just a bit extra.
 

stephenclown

Professional
I have no idea ;). I have not played with those (went straight for the TC90 and haven't looked back, yet). To me it feels like a slightly more powerful PS90 - probably about the same power as the VCore Tour F 93 I played with for a bit (but way more comfortable). It's very crisp (not harsh but not soft either) - and feels great. I've never hit a harder serve than I do with it, and my groundstrokes are ripping too (relatively speaking - let's not get ahead of ourselves...). Anyway, I wouldn't say you get a lot of free power, but it doesn't take anything away either. It'll give you what you put into it, plus perhaps just a bit extra.

Maybe it will be too much, I guess it would be difficult to go backwards down from 95 all the time but possibly better for drills to ensure I have a more consistent stroke... Wonder if it is worth practicing with it and for fun.

My girlfriend might kill me if I bought 2, but I may be able to get away with 1 :)
 

haqq777

Legend
Just tell her that there was a promo buy one and get one for free! :D Or even better, buy two and get one for free!
+1. Hey my wife gives me that BOGO line of reasoning all the time for her shoes. Only logical she accepts it too. If only spouses were logical beings though, right! ;)
 

Subaruvich

Semi-Pro
I love the TC90, but then, I'm most comfortable with a mid. Really fun to play with if you like that kind of thing.

What is your preferred string and tension for TC90? I find myself derailed lately experimenting with strings in my TC90. Need to get back on track asap :)
 

Kozzy

Hall of Fame
What is your preferred string and tension for TC90? I find myself derailed lately experimenting with strings in my TC90. Need to get back on track asap :)
I'm using Ashaway Kevlar 17 / Ashaway ZX 17 at about 45lb. I like it the best for these reasons:

- feels good - I can't play with strings that don't feel good! I compared it with an AlphaGut 2000 / ZX hybrid the other day, and it's actually more comfortable than that.
- consistent - you can count on the launch angle, which makes for great control
- longevity - I get a whole month at least out of one string job, and the playability never changes after it settles in. I can handle stringing once per month - don't like to do it more often unless I'm experimenting...

One thing I do that's a bit non standard is skip the first and last cross, so I have a 16X16 pattern. I just hate threading that final cross through that double blocked final cross.

The other setup that worked quite well for me was Big Hitter Blue 17 strung around 40lb. That felt nice, but longevity was lower - and playability changed over time.
 
I am so keen to try more to choose the best for me. I am loving the small head and its ease for slice and flat/top backhands.

I am locked into buying a TC97 18x20 at the moment, but would anyone suggest TC90 or TC100 to compliment? Perhaps I just get the TC97 at the moment...

I feel like the Pure Aero was terrible for 1hbh, sluggish etc and worried similar with other 100" frames being a similar story. I would prefer to work on technique, footwork and strength than just relying on frames to generate power if this helps.
I would personally recommend the Tc 97 18X20 to complement the Tc 100. The throat shape is different, so it would give you two Angells that have a different feel. Both excellent choices.
 

stephenclown

Professional
I would personally recommend the Tc 97 18X20 to complement the Tc 100. The throat shape is different, so it would give you two Angells that have a different feel. Both excellent choices.

I just got my TC95 this week and so stoked that I want to try the TC97, I think that would be a good complement racquet at the moment and forego the TC100. The TC95 is insanely good for onehand backhands - my favourite racquet I have ever used and just started playing with it.

Think getting 2 extra would be greedy at the moment haha
 

TheRasha

Rookie
I have TC95 as I said earlier. Absolutely great stick, especially for spin players. I am not really spin player and my balls have a lot of spin :D. Only problem which I have with TC95 is flat forehand paralel and flat service on T line, very hard to hit these two strokes with TC95 and with ealrier racket these two strokes was my weapons. I am thinking to buy TC97 18x20. So here is question: Who played both, please compare TC95 16x19 63RA vs TC 97 18x20, what I will get what to loose. Did you strung them on same tension?
Thanks
 

2young4that

New User
Situation: Low grade supraspinatus tear (PT doesn't think that it's necessary to get it surgically repaired right now). Best thing to do is stay off of it. Streghthen. Slowly work back into it. Got it.

I've had golfers elbow in the past and would rather avoid that if at all possible (^.^). I never had it until I stopped playing tennis, started playing volleyball, then switched back to tennis. I.e. my elbow didn't like volleyball abuse and showed up after starting tennis again. This was about year ago. I had a k six one team strung with the cheap babolat hybrid pro extreme and it was surprisingly comfy. First time I ever tried a poly. Last summer I strung the same racquet with lynx and prince syngut duraflex @ 52 and tried it and it was uncomfortable. Keep in mind I let a friend borrow the racquet and didn't ever play with it when it was fresh so this could have been a problem. The lynx has no edges on it.

I strung a tc 95 70ra 300 gram @ 52lbs a year ago (before shoulder problems) with vokl cyclone tour 17 @ 52 (bairdo). Isospeedcream @52 (prince neos /w wise). Both irritated my wrist.

I have a 320gram zus 95 and 100 62ra. Was playing with the 95 last night trying to get back into things. I had it strung with goshen polylon mains (49) and babolat superfineplay (53.9). I bummed this off of a friend so I could still play while waiting for shipment. I saved 53.9, 10 percent, for the tie offs and forgot to pass the first preset. I was already 4 crosses in and didn't want to restart. First time I hit with it a couple of days earlier, it was stiff. Hit with it last night and it wasn't bad until about the end of the session. Golfers elbow came started coming back and actually felt a little bit on tennis elbow side and have NEVER felt that before. I had gravity in the 95 before @ 54 lbs a over a year ago. It wasn't plush per say, but didn't really have any adverse side effects.

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I bought the following sets:

Prince Premier Touch 16, Prince Premier Control 17, Polyfiber TCS 17, Double AR Twice Shark 17, and MonoGut Zx Pro.

I am looking for recommendations of string tensions and combinations. I am planning on putting this in the angel 70 ra. I don't know how low I can actually go, tension wise, with these string and still have a playable racquet. I have never used any of them and bought them based off of stiffness and comfort levels. I'm okay string my own racquets and am okay with stringing every week if needs be because of tension loss of soft poly strings (as long as it's not a 20 dollar string xD). I'm okay with spending a lot of time, but don't want to spend 80 a month on strings<---college kid. I'm not a string breaker and am the oddball that breaks crosses.


The pro of trying a full set is to get the feel of the string. The con is that I only have a set of each so I can't really can't cut it out and try again if I don't like the tension, but such is life. I'm going to take it easy on my shoulder= no serves, overheads, and high backhands. If pain persists after using these string I will honestly just stop playing and learn to play left handed. I'll end up doing this either way. When winter hits I'll start inflammation medicine, stay off of shoulder, and do weight training as per my PT. I stopped going because I moved out of state and haven't found a new one yet. Will probably be going back next semester for school.

Any advice is much appreciated. Edit: Would putting my wise on lockout mode give me a lower dts stringed? Most of soreness isn't actually in shoulder, but more in forearm and golfers side elbow. Some in bicep. Only time it actually hurt on contact was while serving and overheads.

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DISCLAIMER: I am in no way associated with either company and just want to rehab my poor arm. I won't respond to any questions regarding the racquets not angel related. I could honestly care less what racquet someone uses. The only reason I even posted it (hesitantly) is to give info on what racquets I've been using and to clue in that I have been using a 62 ra racquet and still have pain.
 
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stephenclown

Professional
Situation: Low grade supraspinatus tear (PT doesn't think that it's necessary to get it surgically repaired right now). Best thing to do is stay off of it. Streghthen. Slowly work back into it. Got it.

I've had golfers elbow in the past and would rather avoid that if at all possible (^.^). I never had it until I stopped playing tennis, started playing volleyball, then switched back to tennis. I.e. my elbow didn't like volleyball abuse and showed up after starting tennis again. This was about year ago. I had a k six one team strung with the cheap babolat hybrid pro extreme and it was surprisingly comfy. First time I ever tried a poly. Last summer I strung the same racquet with lynx and prince syngut duraflex @ 52 and tried it and it was uncomfortable. Keep in mind I let a friend borrow the racquet and didn't ever play with it when it was fresh so this could have been a problem. The lynx has no edges on it.

I strung a tc 95 70ra 300 gram @ 52lbs a year ago (before shoulder problems) with vokl cyclone tour 17 @ 52 (bairdo). Isospeedcream @52 (prince neos /w wise). Both irritated my wrist.

I have a 320gram zus 95 and 100 62ra. Was playing with the 95 last night trying to get back into things. I had it strung with goshen polylon mains (49) and babolat superfineplay (53.9). I bummed this off of a friend so I could still play while waiting for shipment. I saved 53.9, 10 percent, for the tie offs and forgot to pass the first preset. I was already 4 crosses in and didn't want to restart. First time I hit with it a couple of days earlier, it was stiff. Hit with it last night and it wasn't bad until about the end of the session. Golfers elbow came started coming back and actually felt a little bit on tennis elbow side and have NEVER felt that before. I had gravity in the 95 before @ 54 lbs a over a year ago. It wasn't plush per say, but didn't really have any adverse side effects.

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I bought the following sets:

Prince Premier Touch 16, Prince Premier Control 17, Polyfiber TCS 17, Double AR Twice Shark 17, and MonoGut Zx Pro.

I am looking for recommendations of string tensions and combinations. I am planning on putting this in the angel 70 ra. I don't know how low I can actually go, tension wise, with these string and still have a playable racquet. I have never used any of them and bought them based off of stiffness and comfort levels. I'm okay string my own racquets and am okay with stringing every week if needs be because of tension loss of soft poly strings (as long as it's not a 20 dollar string xD). I'm okay with spending a lot of time, but don't want to spend 80 a month on strings<---college kid. I'm not a string breaker and am the oddball that breaks crosses.


The pro of trying a full set is to get the feel of the string. The con is that I only have a set of each so I can't really can't cut it out and try again if I don't like the tension, but such is life. I'm going to take it easy on my shoulder= no serves, overheads, and high backhands. If pain persists after using these string I will honestly just stop playing and learn to play left handed. I'll end up doing this either way. When winter hits I'll start inflammation medicine, stay off of shoulder, and do weight training as per my PT. I stopped going because I moved out of state and haven't found a new one yet. Will probably be going back next semester for school.

Any advice is much appreciated. Edit: Would putting my wise on lockout mode give me a lower dts stringed? Most of soreness isn't actually in shoulder, but more in forearm and golfers side elbow. Some in bicep. Only time it actually hurt on contact was while serving and overheads.

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DISCLAIMER: I am in no way associated with either company and just want to rehab my poor arm. I won't respond to any questions regarding the racquets not angel related. I could honestly care less what racquet someone uses. The only reason I even posted it (hesitantly) is to give info on what racquets I've been using and to clue in that I have been using a 62 ra racquet and still have pain.


I would use the lower weight racquet of course with a rotator cuff injury, so the 70 RA is the right choice as well due to lower swing weight. I wouldn't worry going lower than 45 with polys in this frame.

I have the TC95 63RA 310g and have a torn ligament in my wrist which likely needs operating on. I have strung at 50/47 gut/poly for comfort and it is supremely comfortable. I still have great control on backhand as well, wrist brace screws my FH too much to tell atm. Once I get the strokes worked out with this racquet I could go lower, only issue is the movement with open pattern on the poly. This should be fine with multi due to more stickiness than gut with mu alu rough cross, crazy movement.

Try stringing the premier touch multi on mains - around 47-50 and TCS on crosses 4 pounds lower as it is also a really comfortable string. You should have a heap of comfort with this setup and hopefully the strings don't move too much. It shouldn't have as much power as my setup as well which is high powered but manageable for sure.
 

2young4that

New User
I would use the lower weight racquet of course with a rotator cuff injury, so the 70 RA is the right choice as well due to lower swing weight. I wouldn't worry going lower than 45 with polys in this frame.

I have the TC95 63RA 310g and have a torn ligament in my wrist which likely needs operating on. I have strung at 50/47 gut/poly for comfort and it is supremely comfortable. I still have great control on backhand as well, wrist brace screws my FH too much to tell atm. Once I get the strokes worked out with this racquet I could go lower, only issue is the movement with open pattern on the poly. This should be fine with multi due to more stickiness than gut with mu alu rough cross, crazy movement.

Try stringing the premier touch multi on mains - around 47-50 and TCS on crosses 4 pounds lower as it is also a really comfortable string. You should have a heap of comfort with this setup and hopefully the strings don't move too much. It shouldn't have as much power as my setup as well which is high powered but manageable for sure.

How good is spin potential with premier touch? Most reviews said that it is a supremely comfortable string but not too much spin potential. Thoughts? How hard would tcs mains, touch crosses be on my arm?
 

stephenclown

Professional
How good is spin potential with premier touch? Most reviews said that it is a supremely comfortable string but not too much spin potential. Thoughts? How hard would tcs mains, touch crosses be on my arm?

I haven't used it before but it seems similar comfort to gut which is amazing for my wrist, gut is usually low spin as well hence the poly cross. TCS mains seem like they would be comfortable and probably offer more spin but might still hurt a little bit, thankfully with 2 sets you have 2 tries! Only issue is that multi mains may break quickly.

Could try zyex mains and multi cross - zyex with the premier control would be my guess and zyex mains from what I see has good reviews and longevity.

Better to nurse it for a while and to have a few balls fly out than worrying too much about heavy spin.

I have only discomfort for about 3 days after use at the moment. When I was using full polys I couldn't use chop sticks for a week without pretty bad pain and was still painful after 2 weeks - this was after only 2 hours of doubles and with a different racquet - pure aero.
 
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joohan

Guest
Just spoke with a Wilson rep at Laver cup in Prague. They're selling special edition of RF97, black with golden PWS part, for almost 300€. They've sold more than 20 frames after just 1 session (4 more to go until Sunday afternoon). If I got it right, there's only 200 of these frames. Good business.
 

Audiophile

Rookie
I exchanged a few emails with Paul a couple of years ago but just never did pull the trigger on one of these frames. However, the more feedback I read on here, the more I'm leaning towards getting one. They seem like nice, quality pieces for sure. I would be looking at the 95, 63 RA, 18 x 20, and on the heavier side, as that's close to what I'm accustomed to. Any feedback from someone that has one like that? It may push me over the edge. Lol.
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
Just spoke with a Wilson rep at Laver cup in Prague. They're selling special edition of RF97, black with golden PWS part, for almost 300€. They've sold more than 20 frames after just 1 session (4 more to go until Sunday afternoon). If I got it right, there's only 200 of these frames. Good business.

Brand recognition campaigns. Money earned not important here, what's important is ability to do this with success.

Removed the pallets of TC95 330g and didn't find any weights :(

What did you find? Lead tape? Mass has to be somewhere.
 

Sambuccashake

Hall of Fame
I am looking for recommendations of string tensions and combinations.
Keep it below 50 lbs. No problem there.
Also, look for a comfy cross that will further bolster the dampening.

My current setup (TC95, 63RA) is more comfortable than the full beds I've tried so far and I urge you to give it a go.

Mains: RS Lyon @ 50 lbs
Cross: Yonex Poly Tour Pro @ 48 lbs

You can probably lower the tension to 47/45.

I assure you it will crush the ball and be comfortable while doing so.
 
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