Thiem to expose Djoko false dawn

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
This is not some jinx thread against Thiem.

Ive been saying since RG Djokovic has flattered to deceive and later i think Thiem will tear him apart.

Thiem does everything bigger here now in 2020 and with djokos cumbersome movement i can see him getting creamed in straight sets.
 

ForehandCross

G.O.A.T.
Tim has huge problem in keeping leads in big matches. If he is as clutch as he was against Nadal and he plays at that level he is straight setting Djokovic .

But if he unclutch then it will be difficult as no one punishes you for giving up a lead Like Djokovic.
 
This is not some jinx thread against Thiem.

Ive been saying since RG Djokovic has flattered to deceive and later i think Thiem will tear him apart.

Thiem does everything bigger here now in 2020 and with djokos cumbersome movement i can see him getting creamed in straight sets.
Hi Meles
 

xFedal

Legend
If both play well, I'll still go with Djokovic. But I do believe his margin is shrinking.
Thiem is the one who has margin right now, matter is how he goes about it, does he terminate Nole or clutch out a close match which he is super capable of now.
 

Pheasant

Legend
Yeah. Djoker is toast. Thiem was good enough to win a total of 7 games against Rublev during the RR of this tourney. Thiem was also good enough to almost win a set last month against Rublev in the QF of Vienna.

Thiem is 0-2 this year vs Rublev in hard courts while winning 0 sets. However, he won some games. Thiem also got wrecked 6-2, 6-1 by Krajinovic in Cinci this year.

Djoker, the co-hardcourt GOAT who has won this event 5 times, is toast.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
This is not some jinx thread against Thiem.

Ive been saying since RG Djokovic has flattered to deceive and later i think Thiem will tear him apart.

Thiem does everything bigger here now in 2020 and with djokos cumbersome movement i can see him getting creamed in straight sets.
Should have used all those smilies that Meles uses to really have us fooled 100%.

But good job nonetheless. (y)
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic has looked uninspiring since the resumption of play it's only the Career Inflation Era that's allowed him to have so much success.

Not really. Here att ATP finals is the first time in a long time or so I really feel Djokovic is not ready to go all the way in a tournament. Didn't have this feeling before. He doesnt look mentally prepared and like he doesn't believe in it.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
This could turn into boring blowout. If Thiem starts to over power and dominate Novak on this indoor carpet, Novak will quickly lose interest and tank it. Those serbian tanks are the best tanks in the world today
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Not really. Here att ATP finals is the first time in a long time or so I really feel Djokovic is not ready to go all the way in a tournament. Didn't have this feeling before. He doesnt look mentally prepared and like he doesn't believe in it.

Why didn't Roger play in this thing ? i heard he's all healed up and ready. it would have been good practice for him since he's gunning for his 21 Slam in a row at Australia
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Why didn't Roger play in this thing ? i heard he's all healed up and ready. it would have been good practice for him since he's gunning for his 21 Slam in a row at Australia

Would have been quite scandalous to have a guy who hasn't played anything all year except the AO suddenly turn up expecting to play in an event reserved for the 8 best performing players of the season only!
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Would have been quite scandalous to have a guy who hasn't played anything all year except the AO suddenly turn up expecting to play in an event reserved for the 8 best performing players of the season only!

Right for any Ordinary player, that would be true. But for extraordinary GOAT that is worshipped by Trillions of people in the world, it would have been a welcome move. and would made shot up the TV rating of this event by 6-8 points
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Right for any Ordinary player, that would be true. But for extraordinary GOAT that is worshipped by Trillions of people in the world, it would have been a welcome move. and would made shot up the TV rating of this event by 6-8 points

His star appeal is undeniable but he would have taken a spot earned by another player which wouldn't have gone down well at all. I'm sure that's one of the reasons why he didn't decide to turn up. He had already made his decision not to play anymore events in 2020.
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Right for any Ordinary player, that would be true. But for extraordinary GOAT that is worshipped by Trillions of people in the world, it would have been a welcome move. and would made shot up the TV rating of this event by 6-8 points

Regardless of all that, you still actually have to qualify to play it...lol
 
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Deleted member 771911

Guest
No false dawn. People been saying Djoko is a burn out for ages. Well, I have.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Thiem does everything bigger here now in 2020 and with djokos cumbersome movement i can see him getting creamed in straight sets.
Djoker will destroy Thiem with his new drop shot, which Gaston used to nearly beat him at RG this year. Djoker comfortably in straights.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
This is not some jinx thread against Thiem.

Ive been saying since RG Djokovic has flattered to deceive and later i think Thiem will tear him apart.

Thiem does everything bigger here now in 2020 and with djokos cumbersome movement i can see him getting creamed in straight sets.
The classic double reverse jinx post.:giggle:
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
LOL Fraud's Golden Age is now the Diamond Age where for a brief time the Big 3 will be relevant. Franklys its been an embarrassment of riches the last two years with the Big 3 playing better than expected and ditto Thiem and Medvedev. As usual the pillow strangler has been the only real dissappointment, but he's got 2021 to wake up and do what he should be doing right now which is be the best player outside the Big 3. As a Thiem fan I can say I'm not all that upset with Zverev's folly.:cool:
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Thiem will make it to the final and win...... AUSTRALIAN OPEN FINALIST.... US OPEN CHAMPION! NOW SOON TO BE WORLD TOUR FINALS CHAMPION, CEMENTING HIS POSITION AS THE WORLDS BEST HARD COURT PLAYER.
Thiem himself now is considering himself a hard court specialist. The power of TTW and @Lleytonstation who I'm sure was very proud of Thiem's RR win over Nadal.:p
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
What 4 competed before? One can even be a bit harsh with Murray with all his Auz Open failures. Thiem and Medvedev are better than a player like Del Potro; I'd even take them over Roddick (well I hate Roddick's game, but his stats on serve are a source of drool.)

Tsitsipas its hard to remember just turned 22 so with him and Zverev you have a very good 4 to go along with Thiem and Medvedev. Rublev has surprised me and frankly with his serve and fine return game he'll be a better slam player than Davydenko. A lot of other rising stars have been held back by Covid: Shapo (21), FAA (20), Demon (21), Sinner (19), Musetti (18), and Alcaraz (17).

2021 is going to be an amazing year and the tour finals this year is just a taste of what's to come.:D I'm not sure of any past year that even comes close to comparing. Please don't tell me you're pining for the Ferrer/Berdych peak pigeon years.:sneaky:
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Sad to see Djokovic losing most of the longer baseline points against both Thiem and Medvedev when he used to be a dominant machine from the baseline till recently. Thiem won three long baseline points in a row when down 0-4 in the 3rd set tiebreaker and took Novak’s belief away that he deserved to win the match. It was only Djokovic’s good serving that was keeping him level in the match until then as Thiem clearly looked like the better baseline player.

What happened to the Novak Djokovic who was the best player on hard courts with only Federer capable of looking better than him on fast hardcourts? He is playing defensively from the baseline and hoping for his opponent to make errors while not attacking the ball on the rise and hitting close to the sidelines like he used to do. He looks like a pale version of the 2012-2014 Djokovic who would play well enough to get to Slam finals and then lose most of them to Nadal, Murray and Wawrinka.

At this ATP Finals, the problem was not any mental issues, but the fact that his baseline play was too conservative and not as consistent as Medvedev and Thiem. Not a good way to end the season as it will be hard for him to feel very confident next season if he faces them in big matches. Nadal also looked better than him even on this fast, low bouncing court throughout the week, Outside of Wimbledon where he might be able to servebot, I don’t see this version of Novak winning Slams in 2021 - Becker to the rescue? Keep Pepe away!
 

Beckerserve

Legend
This is not some jinx thread against Thiem.

Ive been saying since RG Djokovic has flattered to deceive and later i think Thiem will tear him apart.

Thiem does everything bigger here now in 2020 and with djokos cumbersome movement i can see him getting creamed in straight sets.
What worries me for Nole is this was his best surface indoors and he lost against Thiem who was not playing well. That is of massive concern for the Djokovic camp.
 
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