Thin beamed racquets that offer a bit more power?

Domzy84

New User
Sorry in advance if it sounds a bit dumb

I understand that thinner beamed racquets offer more control and thicker is more power
but are there any racquets that are thin beamed but offer more power than a ''control'' oriented racquet?
I prefer thinner beams but Id also like some power instead.
Any recommendations?
 

Bill Lobsalot

Hall of Fame
Sorry in advance if it sounds a bit dumb

I understand that thinner beamed racquets offer more control and thicker is more power
but are there any racquets that are thin beamed but offer more power than a ''control'' oriented racquet?
I prefer thinner beams but Id also like some power instead.
Any recommendations?
Prince Phantom line. Thin beam, open 16 x 18 pattern. I use the Phantom Pro 100.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
@Domzy84 - I presume you know this, but in general, beam thickness and power potential have a divergent relationship. The thinner you go in beam, the lower the innate power potential, and the more that hitting weight and string explosiveness become the two predominate power sources. It just is what it is. Can't escape physics.

That being said, there are certain thinner-beam racquets that use higher-power beam shapes and more firm, higher-energy-return layups. Towards that end would be stuff like the current Dunlop CX's, most with RA's in the mid-60's. Also Head Prestige, Gravity Tour/MP, even Radical Pro -- most with mid-60's RA's in recent generations. There's also the Babolat Pure Strike VS / 97, Tecnifibre TF40's, even TFights at only .5mm more thick, and the Wilson Blade 98, 100, and probably the highest power-to-weight-ratio thinner-beam stick on the market, the Blade 100L, which has a Pure Drive -like layup of 69-ish RA, yet has the same mold, drill pattern and string bed response/control as the regular 100. All of the aforementioned sticks are <=22mm in beam width (other than the TFights).

As for the Prince Phantoms, they are some of the lowest power-to-weight ratio sticks on the market. To get any amount of free power out of them, enough for the modern game at least, they need either larger amounts of hitting weight or launchy string beds -- usually both; often more than a player ideally wants. Don't get me wrong, they're wonderful feel and finesse frames, which can still work well enough for casual or certain lower-grade competitive play, but if you're trying to get absolutely as much out of your thinner-beam racquet as you can for free, I would look elsewhere. Just my two cents, anyways.

Hope some of that helps. Any questions, feel free.
 
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Trip

Hall of Fame
@Domzy84 - If you don't mind full customization, the MP-L (21.5mm 99" 16x19). If you'd rather not customize much or at all, or want the extra precision, then I'd go Tour (22mm 95" 16x19), but only via matching service, for the lowest swing weight and balance point they can find, as you really don't want to end up with an over-spec Tour (trust me).
 
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Domzy84

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@Domzy84 - If you don't mind full customization, the MP-L (21.5mm 99" 16x19). If you'd rather not customize much or at all, or want the extra precision, then I'd go Tour (22mm 95" 16x19), but only via matching service, for the lowest swing weight and balance point they can find, as you really don't want to end up with an over-spec Tour (trust me).
Awesome! Just found the prestige’s on 20% off!
might have to get a MP-L
will have a look at other rackets before I confirm though
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Sorry in advance if it sounds a bit dumb

I understand that thinner beamed racquets offer more control and thicker is more power
but are there any racquets that are thin beamed but offer more power than a ''control'' oriented racquet?
I prefer thinner beams but Id also like some power instead.
Any recommendations?
I've always liked a more narrow beam and also a somewhat old-school layout of heavier (12+ oz.), head-light in balance, and at least moderate flex. The power in these frames generally depends on their weight, at least for me. I also depend on that weight for inherent stability at contact, especially with shots like a slice backhand and stronger volleys.

The Volkl C10 Pro is a 98" racquet with a 20mm beam width. I used them for several years with a little weight added to my handles for some extra HL balance and these gave me just about unlimited power at a static weight of around 12.5 oz. They also gave me superior arm comfort strung with a full bed of 16 or 17 ga. syn. gut. Poly is a no-go for my arm in any racquet I use.

The C10's combo of power and comfort is rather infectious, but it has made for a tradeoff for me. Getting spin with my C10's requires extra effort compared with other frames (including another 98" Volkl model tuned to a similar weight and balance). The C10's turn the ball for me, but I need to swing very deliberately across the ball to generate those RPM's.

Now I'm trying to lighten up just a little bit with my racquets. I used the Dunlop CX-200 Tour (18x20) last year for several months and that was borderline light and under-powered for me. Now I'm experimenting with some lead tape on both the hoop and the handle of one of these, but I'm only tuning in small increments. It may take a while to sort this one out, but the tuning is making a significant difference for me. Weight matters.

I also have a Prince Phantom 97, which is only a mild step down in heft from my C10's and this could be the one I stick with for a while. With weight added to the handle, this one is weighing in at 12.2 oz.

I like the Prestige, but I only experimented with a pair of mids from the Liquid Metal generation some years ago. I generally encourage some experiments with tuning using lead tape on any new racquet. You may dial in better fit, but if it doesn't help, it's easy enough to peel off the tape and go back to your stock layout.
 

Yamin

Hall of Fame
How thin is thin beam? Swing weight is ultimately what drives power potential in all rackets, so look for that.

What prestige would be best?

2021 Prestige Tour is a very high powered racket but the beam is 22.

Percept H is pretty high powered as well.

A Prostaff 97 (if at 330+ swing weight)
 

Yamin

Hall of Fame
I personally don’t feel that it does but everyone’s opinion is different, I think Babolat just purposefully gives the strike 98 a huge swingweight for its weight.
It's the high twist weight that makes it feel this way. Most thin beams usually come with low twist weight / high swing weight. Solid racket, new version has much better feel but feels thick.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
Sorry in advance if it sounds a bit dumb

I understand that thinner beamed racquets offer more control and thicker is more power
but are there any racquets that are thin beamed but offer more power than a ''control'' oriented racquet?
I prefer thinner beams but Id also like some power instead.
Any recommendations?
Usually, weight based power is needed for thinner frames. That said, I think Gravity Tour is a light control racket that offers good power. If you don’t mind heavier weight, check out the Gravity Pro.
 

jimmy8

Legend
If you order from Europe, you can get the 2023 Prestige Pro Auxetic 2 16x19. If you can handle 320g unstrung this is a racket you might love.
 

Elcer

New User
Sorry in advance if it sounds a bit dumb

I understand that thinner beamed racquets offer more control and thicker is more power
but are there any racquets that are thin beamed but offer more power than a ''control'' oriented racquet?
I prefer thinner beams but Id also like some power instead.
Any recommendations?
Domzy84 try Wilson KPro 88. Beam width 17mm. Very stable and more power and control. This racquet is heavy with high swingweight. The only alteration I did was to change the balance to 9pts head light. Or try Wilson K90 (my second choice which I customized to the specs of Wilson Kpro 88.)
 

Lphansen

Rookie
Angell TC 100 has what you seek.
its fairly thin, powerful and you can choose your own specs..
The older versions are really cheap second hand.
Extra grommets, pallets are easy to get and change.
Whats not to like..

my two cents
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
I prefer thinner beams but Id also like some power instead.
What do you like about a thin beam as most people like them because they have low power and high control? You can just weigh up whatever thin beam racquet you have if you want more power. Along with playing with a less stiff string, thinner gauge, lowering tension etc.
 

bnjkn

Professional
Domzy84 try Wilson KPro 88. Beam width 17mm. Very stable and more power and control. This racquet is heavy with high swingweight. The only alteration I did was to change the balance to 9pts head light. Or try Wilson K90 (my second choice which I customized to the specs of Wilson Kpro 88.)
I agree with this. I haven't played with the Kps88 in a while but I remember it has really good power. The k90 has great control and not as much power (I'd say medium power), but easier to use than the 88.

Do you have a string and tension recommendation for the kp88 and/or k90? I want to play them side by side and compare.
 

Elcer

New User
I agree with this. I haven't played with the Kps88 in a while but I remember it has really good power. The k90 has great control and not as much power (I'd say medium power), but easier to use than the 88.

Do you have a string and tension recommendation for the kp88 and/or k90? I want to play them side by side and compare.
bnjn: Both racquets were strung with Babolat RPM Blast(gauge 130/16) at 45lbs. So you haven't played the KP88 for a while. I have been playing with KP88 since 2013 alternating my customized K90 to the specs of KP88. I also owned wilson RFA 97(2014 version-Red & Black) which I also customized to the specs of KP88 but I play with this occasionally because I like a thin beam racquet. I am not into a "In-Fat-tuation" racquet. All of my racquets have a balance of 9pts head light. Good luck to you.
 

MrBD

New User
Awesome! Just found the prestige’s on 20% off!
might have to get a MP-L
will have a look at other rackets before I confirm though
Can I ask about the 20% discount? I'm planning to get MP-L as well, thank you so much
 

J-Wildcard

Semi-Pro
What prestige would be best?
As trip mentioned, there are a few prestige options now but the stiffer layup does affect the feel and comfort. I have recently tried a prince TT310 and it feels nice but has nore putaway power than the prestige pro and MP-L. Its always a trade off usually with power and control and especially so now in the prestige range with the rackets all doing things well but depending on how much power you are putting in will determine which prestige will probably suit you best.
 
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