Video of serve speed at baseline
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but one of my high school teammate can serve 115 mph... and we are only 17... so no point trying to prove anything here.....
but one of my high school teammate can serve 115 mph... and we are only 17... so no point trying to prove anything here.....
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
MasterTS said:
Doesn't surprise me. All Phil ever talks about is how much he reads and every once in a while tells us his story of how he stepped on a ball once, cause he was too tired/lazy to move it, and eventually stepped on it tearing his ankle to shreds. He probably couldn't see it on the ground because his big gut got in the way.
Poor ball
Someone asked for an analysis of your serve even though you already did one. So here are my thoughts:
Compared to ZPTennis, your power sources are a bit different. One obvious thing, is the difference in knee bend. Also, Drak has a good shoulder drop meaning the right shoulder is lower than the left. I don't see as much shoulder stretch in Drak's serve. The rotation and uncoiling could use a little work. The shoulder rotation isn't as complete, but it's still there for sure. At contact, he leans to the left a little. His contact point could be a little higher too. He needs to get a straight line from his racket tip, down his arm, to his leg so that he can get maximal transfer of energy. I'm not sure if this makes too much of a difference, but I noticed his elbow doesn't point to the sky during his backscratch.
This is almost text book.
1. Tossing arm straight.
2. Knee bend.
3. Hips in the court.
4. Trophy pose.
5. Racquet back
6. Complete racquet drop.
7. Racquet coming at ball on it's side.
8. Pronation.
9. etc.
By the way, that serve was a few inches long, not 2 feet. It just looks that way because of the speed and camera angle.
I am a 4.5 player, and could be 5.0+ if I went out on the court and hit more than the 4-5 times a month I play now. I just don't have the time anymore.
You are absolutely dreaming if you think you have seen 3.5 or 4.0 players with technique as solid as mine. Hell, there are 4.5-5.0 players that don't have as good technique. I have been playing since I was 9, and played competitively until 19 (including a college that won the National Championship the year before I got there). I just took it up again 2 years ago after a 14 year layoff.
PS: On all these videos I am serving with a bruise on the arch of my left foot, which prohibits me from launching into the court. The only reason I originally posted my service video was because people were skeptical I could not hit 100. So I did it any ways without the aid of my left foot.[/QUOTE]
Compared to ZPTennis, your power sources are a bit different. One obvious thing, is the difference in knee bend. Also, Drak has a good shoulder drop meaning the right shoulder is lower than the left. I don't see as much shoulder stretch in Drak's serve. The rotation and uncoiling could use a little work. The shoulder rotation isn't as complete, but it's still there for sure. At contact, he leans to the left a little. His contact point could be a little higher too. He needs to get a straight line from his racket tip, down his arm, to his leg so that he can get maximal transfer of energy. I'm not sure if this makes too much of a difference, but I noticed his elbow doesn't point to the sky during his backscratch.
This is almost text book.
1. Tossing arm straight.
2. Knee bend.
3. Hips in the court.
4. Trophy pose.
5. Racquet back
6. Complete racquet drop.
7. Racquet coming at ball on it's side.
8. Pronation.
9. etc.
By the way, that serve was a few inches long, not 2 feet. It just looks that way because of the speed and camera angle.
I am a 4.5 player, and could be 5.0+ if I went out on the court and hit more than the 4-5 times a month I play now. I just don't have the time anymore.
You are absolutely dreaming if you think you have seen 3.5 or 4.0 players with technique as solid as mine. Hell, there are 4.5-5.0 players that don't have as good technique. I have been playing since I was 9, and played competitively until 19 (including a college that won the National Championship the year before I got there). I just took it up again 2 years ago after a 14 year layoff.
PS: On all these videos I am serving with a bruise on the arch of my left foot, which prohibits me from launching into the court. The only reason I originally posted my service video was because people were skeptical I could not hit 100. So I did it any ways without the aid of my left foot.[/QUOTE]
chapufo1
Rookie
drakulie said:
....wtf are u talking about, are u really that ********? I didn't do any trash talking, all I said was that you should try to be a bit more mature by not saying how bad other people are if you don't like being talked that way. Read a little bit more carefully please. I don't like to argue with people over the internet who I don't even know in person so just drop it buddy.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
chapufo1 said:
Here, I will help freshen your memory, since you obviously have a short term memory, and have trouble with your "working memory". By the way, go look up "working memory" since you probably have no clue what that means.
This is what you said:
chapufo1 said:
As you could see, you stuck your foot in your mouth when you wrote this. As I already explained, I Had seen his service video, and HAD YOU DONE A LITTLE BIT OF READING YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT.
STOMPED! OH, AND NO NEED TO HATE BRO! (COUGH)
chapufo1
Rookie
drakulie said:
Jesus Christ, are you mentally ********? How old are you really? You call yourself an adult? If I saw you personally, I would really have to lay a whooping on you so you can understand how childish you are. If that's talking trash to you, I don't know how offensively you would take actual criticism. I'm just dumbfounded by how immature idiots like you can be. Just stop talking.
Drak,
Nice serve. I know there's a lot of fire in this thread and I dont want to spread anymore.
My only comment on your serve would be to follow through across your body. This won't impact the serve at all, it will just keep your body more fluid and ready to jump into the point quickly. (and, to most of the people on this board, they will think the serve looks more "professional")
Even though you don't really do that, this is a perfect example of the famous "wrist snap." Drak gets all his speed from his loose wrist. Learn from it.
Good day.
Nice serve. I know there's a lot of fire in this thread and I dont want to spread anymore.
My only comment on your serve would be to follow through across your body. This won't impact the serve at all, it will just keep your body more fluid and ready to jump into the point quickly. (and, to most of the people on this board, they will think the serve looks more "professional")
Even though you don't really do that, this is a perfect example of the famous "wrist snap." Drak gets all his speed from his loose wrist. Learn from it.
Good day.
Polaris
Hall of Fame
Nice serve drakulie. I like everything about it, except perhaps the end of the followthrough, which seems kind of short. Nice knee-bend and the take-back reminds one of the great Pete. I have to agree with MasterTS regarding the rating of the serve (Man, Did the sun rise in the west today?!). Pretty certainly 4.5 to 5.0.
If that is 3.5-4.0, then my serve is 1.5, and I ought to hang up my racquet and go to the Himalayas.
If that is 3.5-4.0, then my serve is 1.5, and I ought to hang up my racquet and go to the Himalayas.
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lordmanji
Guest
drakulie has a 3.5 serve but a 1.0 mind.
drakulie, youre as concerned with serve speed as you probably are with penis size.
can you place it at will? with different spins? can you try to have a complete follow through? if not you're at most 4.0, likely 3.5
drakulie, you have the maturity and reading comprehension of a 6 year old. you attacked chapuof in a mad rage when anyone else who's sane reading what he said would not come to your same conclusion. you post your serve here, people give their honest opinions and you don't have enough self-confidence to be open-minded. that's why you're a intelligent 1.0
drakulie, how about showing something else other than your "awesome" serve and in match conditions? anyone here can warm up serves an entire hour then just post the best looking ones.
drakulie, youre as concerned with serve speed as you probably are with penis size.
can you place it at will? with different spins? can you try to have a complete follow through? if not you're at most 4.0, likely 3.5
drakulie, you have the maturity and reading comprehension of a 6 year old. you attacked chapuof in a mad rage when anyone else who's sane reading what he said would not come to your same conclusion. you post your serve here, people give their honest opinions and you don't have enough self-confidence to be open-minded. that's why you're a intelligent 1.0
drakulie, how about showing something else other than your "awesome" serve and in match conditions? anyone here can warm up serves an entire hour then just post the best looking ones.
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drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
I can't believe this thread came back from the dead. 4 months ago was the last post.
Anyway, manji I suppose you think that Pancho Gonzalez also has a 3.5 serve. He didn't have a complete follow-thru and his raquet would often scrape the ground directly in front of him. Follow-thru is not what is important-- it is the results that count.
In addition, although I agree that "anyone could warm-up for an hour, and then just post the best ones", NOBODY--INCLUDING YOU HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO IT.
I have played people on these boards, and their posts about my serve speak about the effectiveness of not only my serve, but my game.
Anyway, manji I suppose you think that Pancho Gonzalez also has a 3.5 serve. He didn't have a complete follow-thru and his raquet would often scrape the ground directly in front of him. Follow-thru is not what is important-- it is the results that count.
In addition, although I agree that "anyone could warm-up for an hour, and then just post the best ones", NOBODY--INCLUDING YOU HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO IT.
I have played people on these boards, and their posts about my serve speak about the effectiveness of not only my serve, but my game.
