Volkl cyclone

[Yournormaltennisplayer]

What are your opinions about the cyclone. I'm planning to switch to it but still hesitant. Is the cyclone tour better? Did anyone try out the cyclone tour with cyclone hybrid?


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[Karma Tennis]

Plenty of threads on this subject if you just search them out.

Depends on the player and the racquet. Standard Cyclone seems to be a reasonable middle of the road Poly. Different gauges and colors offer differing advantages and disadvantages. Reasonable value for money offerings but there are better ones about if you look hard enough.

Best way to find out is to test for yourself.

 

[Yournormaltennisplayer]

Plenty of threads on this subject if you just search them out.

Depends on the player and the racquet. Standard Cyclone seems to be a reasonable middle of the road Poly. Different gauges and colors offer differing advantages and disadvantages. Reasonable value for money offerings but there are better ones about if you look hard enough.

Best way to find out is to test for yourself.

Thnx I'll search up previous threads..... Is this string on par with other strings like luxilon and RPM Blast or is it worse because there is a huge difference in price


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[Karma Tennis]

Thnx I'll search up previous threads..... Is this string on par with other strings like luxilon and RPM Blast or is it worse because there is a huge difference in price

IMO, strings from Luxilon and RPM Blast are way overpriced for what they offer the general tennis player.

Some suggest that Cyclone is much better value for money than those.

But then again, others suggest that there are strings that are lot less expensive than Cyclone that are even better value for money. (Some strings from Pros Pro for example.)

It really depends what you are looking for in a string and how you would compare them.

 

[Traffic]

Plenty of threads on this subject if you just search them out.

Depends on the player and the racquet. Standard Cyclone seems to be a reasonable middle of the road Poly. Different gauges and colors offer differing advantages and disadvantages. Reasonable value for money offerings but there are better ones about if you look hard enough.

Best way to find out is to test for yourself.

+1.

Current goto string for my son (14y/o Champs player) who hybrids with OGSM in the cross.

 

[fuzz nation]

IMO, strings from Luxilon and RPM Blast are way overpriced for what they offer the general tennis player.

Some suggest that Cyclone is much better value for money than those.

But then again, others suggest that there are strings that are lot less expensive than Cyclone that are even better value for money. (Some strings from Pros Pro for example.)

It really depends what you are looking for in a string and how you would compare them.

Rather agree here - I've been mystified with how long the RPM Blast fad had held on. I'm not really a poly player myself, but I string for several locals and I haven't seen any compelling evidence that the RPM is worth it. I've seen a couple of young, strong players run into arm troubles using it and a couple others have switched away from it when they found decent results and more comfort using much cheaper alternatives.

Although I've kept reels of Isospeed Baseline on hand for basic setups, I've also recently picked up some Volkl Cyclone 17 so that I can offer a not-too-pricey shaped poly. It's been very well received so far - I've combined it with Gosen OGSM 16 in a hybrid. I'll be picking up some more pretty soon.

 

[Yournormaltennisplayer]

Rather agree here - I've been mystified with how long the RPM Blast fad had held on. I'm not really a poly player myself, but I string for several locals and I haven't seen any compelling evidence that the RPM is worth it. I've seen a couple of young, strong players run into arm troubles using it and a couple others have switched away from it when they found decent results and more comfort using much cheaper alternatives.

Although I've kept reels of Isospeed Baseline on hand for basic setups, I've also recently picked up some Volkl Cyclone 17 so that I can offer a not-too-pricey shaped poly. It's been very well received so far - I've combined it with Gosen OGSM 16 in a hybrid. I'll be picking up some more pretty soon.

Whenever I travel to itf tournaments everyone uses luxilons and babolat. That's why I'm driven away from other cheaper strings. But I think I'll try them out. I'll start with the cyclone cause I pay a lot of $ for my luxilon


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[Yournormaltennisplayer]

+1.

Current goto string for my son (14y/o Champs player) who hybrids with OGSM in the cross.

Cool. Did your son start playing itf's?


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[JustTennis76]

Long time cyclone user here. For an average rec player, it's not worth spending $$ on Luxilons and Babolats. If you have the money, by all means go for it. Cyclone does everything for me at $8 a set and you put a cheap syn gut in the cross, it takes the price of string job even lower. Cyclone Tour is slightly softer than cyclone and for me, the regular cyclone works.

 

[ZirkusAffe]

Love the 17, 18 and 19g cyclones in full setups, I need to try this in a hybrid... The first time I used them I borrowed a PS97 with cyclones and hit with a steam 99s that's how I got hooked both were full and so awesome near fresh ... so I tried a few sets in my DR98 and APT liked them in both (19g notched and broke pretty fast in the APT, and my DR98 19g got pretty uncontrollable recently = launch pad), great value as someone else said with OGSM this would be a great setup. I currently use OGSM with RPM, BHB7. Kirsch PLX and like those a lot too, I can see cyclones working well with OGSM can't go wrong with about $4.5/5 per setup.

 

[IceNineTX]

+1.

Current goto string for my son (14y/o Champs player) who hybrids with OGSM in the cross.

Champs? Are you from Texas?

 

[CopolyX]

try some strings and call us back....hard to recommend a string with absolutely no other data (level, frame, previous string, flat or topspin style...)
how about developing a rapport will a good stringer...

 

[mikeler]

Long time cyclone user here. For an average rec player, it's not worth spending $$ on Luxilons and Babolats. If you have the money, by all means go for it. Cyclone does everything for me at $8 a set and you put a cheap syn gut in the cross, it takes the price of string job even lower. Cyclone Tour is slightly softer than cyclone and for me, the regular cyclone works.

Long time stringaholic here. I've settled in with Cyclone during the summer months and Cyclone Tour on colder and/or wetter days.

 

[Traffic]

Champs? Are you from Texas?

USTA Jr. Pacific Northwest.

 

[IceNineTX]

USTA Jr. Pacific Northwest.

Didn't realize they did that elsewhere. In Texas, it is Challenger, Champs, and Superchamps. Everyone that moves here is confused by it like it's some foreign concept.

 

[Traffic]

Didn't realize they did that elsewhere. In Texas, it is Challenger, Champs, and Superchamps. Everyone that moves here is confused by it like it's some foreign concept.

Our local clubs host USTA sanctioned tourneys. Entry and Intermediate count towards Challenger. Advanced count towards Champs for ranking. Then there is National tourneys that use Levels. I think a national level 4 is close to local Advanced. Those that are too good for local Advanced enter National Level 3.

 

[IceNineTX]

Here we have specific qualifying tournaments for those levels. Open tournaments apply to your overall ranking once you are a super, but don't help you advance to the super level.


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[tennisitis]

Thnx I'll search up previous threads..... Is this string on par with other strings like luxilon and RPM Blast or is it worse because there is a huge difference in price


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Hopefully this TW head2head comparison will answer some of your questions.

After 5 years with RPM Blast 17, I switched to Volkl Cyclone 17 Black for the lower cost. My experience with both is pretty similar to the TW head2head. They perform equally with my heavy topspin game. The one standout for me with RPM is the impressive string movement/snap back. I just don't like seeing my string misaligned. Full bed Cyclone 18 Pink is also performing well in my 18x20.

Cyclone Tour 17 Red, strung at the same tension as Cyclone 17 Black, is softer, a little more power but also has a bigger initial tension drop. Spin is similar with both to me. I prefer firmer polys so I'm sticking with regular Cyclone.

I haven't hybrid Cyclone Tour but my new Cyclone 17 mains and V-Pro 17 crosses setup is playing well in my Wilson Burn 95 (non CV). The primary goal here is for better string movement by minimize notching of the mains. After 6 sets, all the strings are still aligned and the mains are less notched than full bed Cyclone.

 

[Mac33]

I used and loved Cyclone for around 5 years.

It definitely has some good points but I've really fallen out of love with it big time.

Best attribute - it grips the ball very well,so you feel you have more control of the ball.

Worst - it has a harsh,wiry feel to it. It also lacks power.

I've since switched to max thickness 1.27 mm MSV Focus Hex,white colour.

It has a much more satisfying thud on contact with the ball producing a much lower trajectory than Cyclone.

It also grips the ball especially good too.

 

[kiteboard]

Big ace micro, try it.

 

[karakosk]

I like the green version of volkl cyclone 16g. It gives a lot more pop than the black version and it still has the control aspect of the string.

I'm currently using it as a cross at 52#s with OGSM 16g mains at 54#s in the pure strike 18 x20 (old version) and i love the easy depth and control that it gives me.

 

[Karma Tennis]

I like the green version of volkl cyclone 16g. It gives a lot more pop than the black version and it still has the control aspect of the string.

Do you mean the Optic Yellow Cyclone? I've never seen a version of Cyclone that is green. Volkl have a green string called V-Torque though.

I've seen Cyclone in Anthracite (Black Grey), Optic Yellow, Fluro Orange, and Pink. Each one has it's advantages and disadvantages. Anthracite tends to be the stiffest and most muted of the lot with more spin potential and control potential. Orange and Pink tend to be crisper with more power (depth!) potential.

 

[karakosk]

Do you mean the Optic Yellow Cyclone? I've never seen a version of Cyclone that is green. Volkl have a green string called V-Torque though.

I've seen Cyclone in Anthracite (Black Grey), Optic Yellow, Fluro Orange, and Pink. Each one has it's advantages and disadvantages. Anthracite tends to be the stiffest and most muted of the lot with more spin potential and control potential. Orange and Pink tend to be crisper with more power (depth!) potential.

Oh yeah I just thought it's yellow green so i put it in the green color category. But yeah it's yellow.

 

[Sardines]

I came from Alu BB to RPM 17 to Cyclone 18 to Cyclone Tour 18 to Cyclone 19 to Cyclone 18L. I found RPM Blast 17 to be harsh and I found it to lose bite a bit faster than Cyclone. Basically I wasn't too impressed with it, and I tried it for 5 restrings and I gave away the rest of the 1/2 reel.
It'd be easier if you could tell us what you want the string to do? More spin, feel or power and in what priority?

 

[Yournormaltennisplayer]

I came from Alu BB to RPM 17 to Cyclone 18 to Cyclone Tour 18 to Cyclone 19 to Cyclone 18L. I found RPM Blast 17 to be harsh and I found it to lose bite a bit faster than Cyclone. Basically I wasn't too impressed with it, and I tried it for 5 restrings and I gave away the rest of the 1/2 reel.
It'd be easier if you could tell us what you want the string to do? More spin, feel or power and in what priority?

I want the string to give me a lot of spin but in the same time decent amount of power I don't want a dead string


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[Sardines]

Co-Polys are essentially "dead" control strings that have not much power. If you don't have your own power, copolys aren't likely going to give you much gain. It will allow you to swing harder than you normally could at certain shots,. because of the added spin. That's why many people go with hybrids, you lose a bit of spin but gain some power.
For myself, I like the 18L the most of the Cyclone from 17-19g. 19 I'd use for a match but it lasts on average about 6-8 hrs for me, which is too short a life span for me. The 18L brings it to 10-11 hrs, which is the back end of usability for the Cyclone anyways, even with silicone spray! Try string in the low 40s and move up to find your sweet spot.

 

[karakosk]

I want the string to give me a lot of spin but in the same time decent amount of power I don't want a dead string


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Have you tried Tourna Big Hitter Black 17g? That was my go to string before I tried volkl cyclone 16g. It has a lively feel and really soft. Spin is easy to generate but then again I was using a six one 95s when I was using that string.

 

[Chotobaka]

Big ace micro, try it.

Co-sign. Either full bed or hybrid with OGSM -- both are terrific all around performers.

 

[Yournormaltennisplayer]

Have you tried Tourna Big Hitter Black 17g? That was my go to string before I tried volkl cyclone 16g. It has a lively feel and really soft. Spin is easy to generate but then again I was using a six one 95s when I was using that string.

Which one do u like more?


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[Prince Vegeta]

Long time cyclone user.

It's a great string for the price. Is awesome at lower tensions. I personally string full beds of the stuff at 42lbs.

 

[karakosk]

Which one do u like more?


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I like cyclone better since I can control the balls better with it. But if you like a little bit more power try the Black Hitter Black.

Try them both and see which one you like better. What works for me might not work for you.

 

[Karma Tennis]

I've since switched to max thickness 1.27 mm MSV Focus Hex,white colour.

It has a much more satisfying thud on contact with the ball producing a much lower trajectory than Cyclone.

It also grips the ball especially good too.

I'm puzzled as to why anyone would use a grippy shaped poly string to produce lower trajectory shots?

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Whenever I travel to itf tournaments everyone uses luxilons and babolat. That's why I'm driven away from other cheaper strings. But I think I'll try them out. I'll start with the cyclone cause I pay a lot of $ for my luxilon


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I hybrid my racquets with Cyclone in the mains and V-feel in the crosses. You could try that setup, as it really adds a bit of feel and helps to soften up the string bed.

 

[Karma Tennis]

I hybrid my racquets with Cyclone in the mains and V-feel in the crosses. You could try that setup, as it really adds a bit of feel and helps to soften up the string bed.

@Big_Dangerous, very interested to know what sort of durability you get with that setup. Do the V-Feel crosses outlast the Cyclone mains? What is the difference in tension between your mains and crosses?

I'm looking for a decent cross string to hybrid with Cyclone 16 mains to give the bed a little more depth potential (ie pop!). It would help for the cross to be a bit slippery. Not too fussed if I don't get more that 5 or 6 hours of decent playability out of the bed. Happy to re-string frequently.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

@Big_Dangerous, very interested to know what sort of durability you get with that setup. Do the V-Feel crosses outlast the Cyclone mains? What is the difference in tension between your mains and crosses?

I'm looking for a decent cross string to hybrid with Cyclone 16 mains to give the bed a little more depth potential (ie pop!). It would help for the cross to be a bit slippery. Not too fussed if I don't get more that 5 or 6 hours of decent playability out of the bed. Happy to re-string frequently.

Well I'm not really a string breaker, so probably 99% of the time, I cut the strings out after a while. Usually I get at least a month or more out of that setup per racquet, although I do alternate between a couple racquets, so I'm not totally sure, but I imagine I get at least 12-15 hours, if not more. Crosses I almost always string between 3-4 pound tighter than the mains. Usually the mains are between 49-52, depending on the conditions outside - warmer weather I'll go up to 51/52, and cooler weather I'll go down to 49/50. Been working quite well for me for the last several years.

 

[Rabbit]

If you're looking for a poly to hybrid with synthetic gut, Cyclone is awfully hard to beat. It's the #1 choice of players who hybrid that I string for. They love and (and the cost).

 

[Nostradamus]

If you're looking for a poly to hybrid with synthetic gut, Cyclone is awfully hard to beat. It's the #1 choice of players who hybrid that I string for. They love and (and the cost).

i too much more prefer Cyclone vs cyclone tour. I tried both. Cyclone has less power than tour. It is very noticeable but has MUch more spin potential than cyclone tour. for me I think this is due to lack of feel of tour. I can't feel the ball with cyclone tour. Cyclone has much more spin than tour.

in order to get more power, I am going to try the thinner version of cyclone next.

 

[Spanglish72]

My Daughter & I have been using RPM Blast 17g for the last 5 years, but decided to try out something cheaper, so we have both been hitting with Cyclone 17g for about a week after seeing a TW review.

My observations so far are that the Cyclone actually generated more spin and control than the RPM Blast, but a little less power.

At first my Daughter didn't like the Cyclone as much as the RPM because it lacked the same power, but when she saw her shots staying in the court more she began to change her mind.

We strung both our rackets at 50 lbs with the Cyclone and it felt a little softer on the arm than RPM at 50 lbs.

So all in all for the price, you are getting an excellent string with Cyclone.

More spin, control & softness, but just a little less power than RPM.

Great string, we're making the $WITCH!

 

[Karma Tennis]

So all in all for the price, you are getting an excellent string with Cyclone.

More spin, control & softness, but just a little less power than RPM.

Great string, we're making the $WITCH!

If you string your own racquets, you could save huge amounts of money by switching to Pros Pro Black Out 1.24mm. It plays very similar to Volkl Cyclone Anthracite in many frames ... esp hoop sizes above 98.

 

[LOBALOT]

If you string your own racquets, you could save huge amounts of money by switching to Pros Pro Black Out 1.24mm. It plays very similar to Volkl Cyclone Anthracite in many frames ... esp hoop sizes above 98.

I value your opinion. There is tournament kid I know who hits with RPM Blast. He plays locals and sectional tournaments so is a fairly advanced player. He strings his own racquets and his parents have discussed how expensive their strings are. I suggested they try Cyclone. Shall I have him try the PP Black out or do you think a tournament kid with refined strokes in 16s will notice a drop in performance?

 

[hurworld]

I value your opinion. There is tournament kid I know who hits with RPM Blast. He plays locals and sectional tournaments so is a fairly advanced player. He strings his own racquets and his parents have discussed how expensive their strings are. I suggested they try Cyclone. Shall I have him try the PP Black out or do you think a tournament kid with refined strokes in 16s will notice a drop in performance?

How about asking him to get sponsorship from one of the many strings brands, if cost is a concern?

 

[LOBALOT]

How about asking him to get sponsorship from one of the many strings brands, if cost is a concern?

He is sponsored the company!

 

[hurworld]

He is sponsored the company!

huh?

 

[LOBALOT]

huh?

Yes!

 

[hurworld]

Yes!

I dont get your reply.

 

[LOBALOT]

I dont get your reply.

Can you PM me?

 

[Karma Tennis]

huh?

"Sponsorship" doesn't always mean "FULL Sponsorship". For elite junior players it often means equipment can be purchased at a discounted rate. Sometimes it is Wholesale Prices, sometimes it is a fixed percentage discount off Retail Price.

Often the available quantities are limited. For example the sponsored player may receive two or three racquets and a reel or two of string as part of an Annual sponsorship. Any extra equipment can be purchased at discount rates.

"Sponsored" players are usually subject to very strict conditions. For example if a junior is sponsored by Racquet company A, they cannot use racquets from another company. If they do, and they are photographed for Social Media or promotion etc, they place their existing sponsorship at risk.

Very very very few junior players receive FULL sponsorship where all equipment they use is provided at no charge to them or their parents.

 

[Karma Tennis]

I value your opinion. There is tournament kid I know who hits with RPM Blast. He plays locals and sectional tournaments so is a fairly advanced player. He strings his own racquets and his parents have discussed how expensive their strings are. I suggested they try Cyclone. Shall I have him try the PP Black out or do you think a tournament kid with refined strokes in 16s will notice a drop in performance?

Thanks @LOBALOT. Here's my two cents ...

IMO, it's well worth trying PP Black Out in this situation. The caveats ...

1/ Frequent Restringing required (no probs if stringing labour costs are token or nil)
2/ PP BO 1.24mm seems to work best in a full bed between 50 to 54lbs.

Restringing frequency is likely to be similar to RPM Blast. VC (esp 16g) will probably give an extra 2 or so hours of optimum playability compared to PPBO and RPM.

For an elite junior player I don't expect more than 3 to 4 hours of optimum play from PPBO. (Probably 4 to 6 Sets of Singles Play) IME, this compares with RPM. VC probably 8 to 10 Sets.

So crunch the numbers. If a player has several racquets (ie. 4 or more), and restringing labour costs are low or nil, it's worth a demo.

Saying all that ... IME, Volkl Cyclone Anthracite is still one of the best and most versatile value for money CoPoly strings available.

 

[LOBALOT]

Thanks @LOBALOT. Here's my two cents ...

IMO, it's well worth trying PP Black Out in this situation. The caveats ...

1/ Frequent Restringing required (no probs if stringing labour costs are token or nil)
2/ PP BO 1.24mm seems to work best in a full bed between 50 to 54lbs.

Restringing frequency is likely to be similar to RPM Blast. VC (esp 16g) will probably give an extra 2 or so hours of optimum playability compared to PPBO and RPM.

For an elite junior player I don't expect more than 3 to 4 hours of optimum play from PPBO. (Probably 4 to 6 Sets of Singles Play) IME, this compares with RPM. VC probably 8 to 10 Sets.

So crunch the numbers. If a player has several racquets (ie. 4 or more), and restringing labour costs are low or nil, it's worth a demo.

Saying all that ... IME, Volkl Cyclone Anthracite is still one of the best and most versatile value for money CoPoly strings available.

Thank you so much for your help, he has his own machine and is actually doing really well with it for a younger kid stringing for himself and his friends at the club. I guesstimated what he is paying and the numbers look like they work based on the reel price I saw for the PP Black out.

I don't think he restrings frequently enough with his existing setup and have spoken to his parents about that especially given other than material costs and time there is no reason not to.

 

[LOBALOT]

"Sponsorship" doesn't always mean "FULL Sponsorship". For elite junior players it often means equipment can be purchased at a discounted rate. Sometimes it is Wholesale Prices, sometimes it is a fixed percentage discount off Retail Price.

Often the available quantities are limited. For example the sponsored player may receive two or three racquets and a reel or two of string as part of an Annual sponsorship. Any extra equipment can be purchased at discount rates.

"Sponsored" players are usually subject to very strict conditions. For example if a junior is sponsored by Racquet company A, they cannot use racquets from another company. If they do, and they are photographed for Social Media or promotion etc, they place their existing sponsorship at risk.

Very very very few junior players receive FULL sponsorship where all equipment they use is provided at no charge to them or their parents.

Well put thanks!