Was davydenko better than Medvedev ?

[Pencak]

Davydenko was good on hard and clay. He could handle peak nadal on hard. He didn't make slam finals but plenty of sf and qf lost to federer.
Medvedev is good on hard but not great either. It doesn't seem he could handle any of the big 3 in their prime.
Even berdych, tsonga were good on all surfaces.

 

[Crocodile]

Hard to say because it’s been quite a while but I would say that Medvedev probably a more gutsy and spirited player with a massive wing span and heavy shots. When you watch him on TV you don’t notice but many players who have played him in futures and other events say his shots a deceptively heavy.

 

[Oceans II]

Medvedev actually has wins against top 5 in slams.

 

[Pencak]

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Davydenko vs Medvedev vs Tsonga vs Berdcyh

 

[nolefam_2024]

Medvedev is one trick but better pony than Daveydenko. He is great at defense and complete octopus.

 

[Krish0608]

Medvedev actually has wins against top 5 in slams.

So would Davydenko in this era.

 

[Razer]

Medvedev is better than Davydenko but not by a massive margin.

A bit better for sure.

 

[Kralingen]

Comparable.

Neither better than Kafelnikov or Safin.

 

[80s New Wave]

Med is clearly better, if nothing else just the disparity in serve quality makes him better.

 

[dkmura]

The other factor is Medvedev's career is still developing. He has a bigger serve than Davydenko ever did, and has the advantage of more modern training and rehab techniques.

 

[Milanez82]

Davydenko was a decent top 10 player at best, had some game but no serve so on most days he loses this one

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

No

 

[initialize]

Med is bad at handling players that take the ball early.

He'd be screwed playing someone like Davydenko

 

[Olli Jokinen]

Med is bad at handling players that take the ball early.

He'd be screwed playing someone like Davydenko

He just beat Carlitos. Beat Rune on clay too in Rome. Davydenko is overrated on this forum.

 

[djokovic the conqueror]

Yes. Apart from the serve, Davydenko does everything better than Medvedev. Plus, he has a winning h2h against Nadal and owned him on hard courts unlike Medvedev.

 

[JasonZ]

Comparable.

Neither better than Kafelnikov or Safin.

they are both better than kafelnikov! medvedev definetely, and davydenko at least equal.

 

[Kralingen]

they are both better than kafelnikov! medvedev definetely, and davydenko at least equal.

Why so low on Kafelnikov?

 

[jackson vile]

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Davydenko vs Medvedev vs Tsonga vs Berdcyh

Medvedev is consistently better than those players, still improving, and he’s still very young

I think we’ll see him in more slam finals and with multiple slams a some point

 

[Pencak]

Medvedev is consistently better than those players, still improving, and he’s still very young

I think we’ll see him in more slam finals and with multiple slams a some point

Consistently better based on what ?
He will turn 28 soon.

 

[aldeayeah]

They're... not particularly similar other than they use little spin. Hard to compare.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

I think Davydenko is the better slam player. Rate him better at the AO on the basis of pushing prime Federer (which I don't believe Medvedev would be capable of doing), far better at RG obviously, technically worse at Wimbledon but both are poor anyway, overall worse at the USO by now but Med would also win jack all against Fred of course.

 

[JasonZ]

Why so low on Kafelnikov?

i watched him play.

 

[Mustard]

Comparable.

Neither better than Kafelnikov or Safin.

I think Kafelnikov would be a nightmare for Medvedev as a matchup. Kafelnikov was vulnerable to players who had a big weapon of some sort, not to consistency types or "magician" types. Muster could overpower Kafelnikov in rallies, Ivanisevic and Sampras could use big serves, Hewitt had speed, Berasategui had a very spinny forehand that Kafelnikov hated, Agassi had a big return. Those relying on breaking the opponent down through consistency, or its mirror image in magician like play like Santoro, usually found Kafelnikov a nightmare.

There was one exception, i.e. Thomas Johansson. There was a time from 1998-2001 when Johansson beat Kafelnikov 8 times in a row, by doing to Kafelnikov what Kafelnikov usually did to others.

 

[Djokodalerer31]

The only Medvedev Davydenko was better than is the one, that played in 90's...