What gets tired first?

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Just curious as to when you begin to fatigue what muscle or group gives out first.

In normal training/drilling for me most of the time my quads give out.

Going to work super hard on fitness and especially legs this winter in the gym since I won't be putting in as many hours on the court and will actually have a little time to rest and build some muscle.

What about the rest of you?

J
 

OrangeOne

Legend
I don't notice any particular muscle, I fatigue somewhat uniformly. If I had to pick anything, I'd say the shoulder, especially in regard to serving.

In regard to the OP, a muscle 'giving out' implies that muscle doesn't have enough endurance.

In the OP, you mention building some muscle, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you'll have greater endurance or endurance potential. Size & strength do not necessarily correlate positively with endurance, in fact, in some ways they correlate negatively with endurance.

Anyways, that's just somewhat irrelevant meandering that would likely be shouted down by those who feel more muscle is always the solution!
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
More muscle is always the solution............now, what was the question again?

Also, running is dangerous, so don't do any of that.......unless you run barefoot or in those weird shoes that look like feet.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
^^^ Yes, exactly endurance. When I was saying that over the winter I would actually have time to build muscle, I was implying that in the outdoor season when I am spending 20 hours/week on court, and limping off of it, that I don't have enough recovery time, but now that I will since my playing will be trimmed down to 10+ hours/week and mostly doubles my body will have sufficient recovery time.

More power is better of course, and I want to build a more explosive first step and more stable base, but the extra endurance will allow me to stay on the court longer and practice with more intensity instead of having to cheat in some manner due to some part of my body being able to answer the bell.

Bottom line is that I have to be able to play 4 matches in a day two days in a row. And if I am not playing matches, I need to be able to keep my legs under me for 6+ hours on court in practice on weekends while playing every day after work aswell.

J
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
More muscle is always the solution............now, what was the question again?

Also, running is dangerous, so don't do any of that.......unless you run barefoot or in those weird shoes that look like feet.

I did a run series this summer, and a girl that also ran the series had them. Coolest thing ever.

They were a series of 3 mile to 10K races. I was signed up against my will and better judgement. Will not be doing that again. It just used up stuff that I didn't have to use up. Wasting time and body that could have been spent on court.

J
 

OrangeOne

Legend
Also, running is dangerous, so don't do any of that.......unless you run barefoot or in those weird shoes that look like feet.

How dare you call them weird....humans were not able to run until those shoes were invented.

Anyways, running isn't relevant to tennis endurance, well, not nearly as relevant as racking up 600lbs on the leg press and cheating out 7 reps.

If to you, ANY of the above seems serious, please, err, reconsider before replying.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
For tennis, you need to concentrate on your bench press numbers........like Andre. They say "miracle Gil" had him benching 500 lbs. for reps.

That's what made Andre good.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
How dare you call them weird....humans were not able to run until those shoes were invented.

Anyways, running isn't relevant to tennis endurance, well, not nearly as relevant as racking up 600lbs on the leg press and cheating out 7 reps.

If to you, ANY of the above seems serious, please, err, reconsider before replying.

I never had hateful feelings toward stairs until I met split squats.

J
 

Funbun

Professional
During a match, it really depends.

If I want to counterpunch (usually against aggressive/better players) my breath might give out first. If I have to attack and use my transitional game more (which I usually have to do to weaker or more consistent players), then my quads and feet.

I'm an XC runner, but tennis is still quite difficult for me, probably because I have big leg muscles. I feel like I'm a sprinter/tennis player running long distance. Does't feel too right sometimes. I find it hard to recover my breath on my serve, too.
 
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