What lasts longer. FB multi or Multi poly hybrid?

TheIntrovert

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Full bed multi or multi poly hybrid with the multi in the mains? Cause the full bed multi setup would be softer, but then the stiffer cross poly also would eat into the multi in the mains.
 

TheIntrovert

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And also, I’m thinking of switching to full bed multi from using multi poly hybrid (multi in mains). I string the hybrid at 50-52lbs. What would suggest I string the full bed at?
 

chic

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It probably just depends on the particular strings involved.

A shaped or rough poly will eat through a multi, but fb multi will break or bag out sooner. A smoother poly in the mains could probably last longer, but then it's a question of if you're still getting the characteristics you want.

There's also the question of your playstyle which will affect how and how fast strings might break or go dead.

There's no perfect answer
 

chic

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As far as tensions. I would guess you wanna firm up the mains a little to start out and experiment from there, maybe start out 54x52 and see how it feels
 
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TheIntrovert

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It probably just depends on the particular strings involved.

A shaped or rough poly will eat through a multi, but fb multi will break or bag out sooner. A smoother poly in the mains could probably last longer, but then it's a question of if you're still getting the characteristics you want.

There's also the question of your playstyle which will affect how and how fast strings might break or go dead.

There's no perfect answer
I’m an aggressive baseliner and was looking at X1 Biphase. You said the poly will eat through the multi but the multi would still break sooner? Is that correct?
 

gvsbdisco

Semi-Pro
Likely that:
- full bed multi will last longer than multi / poly

If you are concerned about softening string bed you could also try:
- reducing the tension on poly cross (down to 46 or 47). This will likely: give you more spin; make your mains last longer; increase launch angle

If you go full multi I agree with @chic that you should increase the tension a bit. If you are used to, and like, the crosses strung higher than the mains, 54x56 is a good starting point
 

t_pac

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Depending on the strings, I'd say FB multi would last a bit longer (before breaking).

However, you won't get as much spin as the hybrid even when freshly strung, and it'll lock up quicker.

I used FB Velocity for ages, lately been experimenting with low tension poly and multi/poly hybrids (Velocity/Ghostwire). Both play much better than FB Velocity IMO.
 

TheIntrovert

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Likely that:
- full bed multi will last longer than multi / poly

If you are concerned about softening string bed you could also try:
- reducing the tension on poly cross (down to 46 or 47). This will likely: give you more spin; make your mains last longer; increase launch angle

If you go full multi I agree with @chic that you should increase the tension a bit. If you are used to, and like, the crosses strung higher than the mains, 54x56 is a good starting point
I’m not really concerned about softening the stringbed. I actually want to do it tbh. I feel like with my current setup, the racket plays much better when it’s about to break and plays quite plush than from when it first gets strung. Only really concerned about both durability, and spin. If I were to string the multi at about 50, and then the poly at, like you said, like 45, would I be able to replicate it? I just recently strung it with synth gut mains and red code crosses and absolutely hated it. Found it far too stiff.
 

TheIntrovert

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Depending on the strings, I'd say FB multi would last a bit longer (before breaking).

However, you won't get as much spin as the hybrid even when freshly strung, and it'll lock up quicker.

I used FB Velocity for ages, lately been experimenting with low tension poly and multi/poly hybrids (Velocity/Ghostwire). Both play much better than FB Velocity IMO.
Spin is one of the things I’m worried about. The reason I’m looking at fb multi is because I find how my current setup plays just before it breaks to be perfect, as I feel it feels very plush, and want to somehow replicate that from the get go. Stringbed feels too stiff from the get go for my liking with the poly. What tension do you suggest with the poly?
 

junior74

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I’m not really concerned about softening the stringbed. I actually want to do it tbh. I feel like with my current setup, the racket plays much better when it’s about to break and plays quite plush than from when it first gets strung. Only really concerned about both durability, and spin. If I were to string the multi at about 50, and then the poly at, like you said, like 45, would I be able to replicate it? I just recently strung it with synth gut mains and red code crosses and absolutely hated it. Found it far too stiff.

Sounds like you want a dead string bed. Try Head Rip Control at 55. Very good string from the baseline. Soft, yet control oriented (for a "multi"), more than decent durability.
 

LOBALOT

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Full bed Multi doesn't take long for the mains to lock out of place which I find irritating. At that point I am already thinking about a restring.

With multi / poly the multi main is still going to eventually give up and not snap back but at least the slippery poly cross is not impeding the snap back like a multi-cross will. With a decent round poly that is relatively long lasting I would be able to play with the hybrid longer before cutting it out.
 
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TheIntrovert

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Sounds like you want a dead string bed. Try Head Rip Control at 55. Very good string from the baseline. Soft, yet control oriented (for a "multi"), more than decent durability.
You think so? It’s weird cause I assume by the time the strings about to break, the polys quite dead but the multi is softer? Or when you say dead string bed, do you mean dead in terms of not being ‘crisp’ feeling instead of dead in terms of lack of power
 

TheIntrovert

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Full bed Multi doesn't take long for the mains to lock out of place which I find irritating. At that point I am already thinking about a restring.

With multi / poly the multi main is still going to eventual give up and not snap back but at least the slippery poly cross is not impeding the snap back like a multi-cross will. If you have a decent round poly that is relatively long lasting I would be able to play with the hybrid longer before cutting it out.
So considering I play with moderate top spin, would you say it’d be better to go with the hybrid in terms of longevity?
 

junior74

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You think so? It’s weird cause I assume by the time the strings about to break, the polys quite dead but the multi is softer? Or when you say dead string bed, do you mean dead in terms of not being ‘crisp’ feeling instead of dead in terms of lack of power

As opposed to lively/ crisp. Just try Rip Control :)

Multis become "boardy" in the end, meaning the strings notch/ lock into position and doesn't move anymore.

Both multis and polys are softer at first. They become less elastic with use.
 

gvsbdisco

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I’m not really concerned about softening the stringbed. I actually want to do it tbh. I feel like with my current setup, the racket plays much better when it’s about to break and plays quite plush than from when it first gets strung. Only really concerned about both durability, and spin. If I were to string the multi at about 50, and then the poly at, like you said, like 45, would I be able to replicate it? I just recently strung it with synth gut mains and red code crosses and absolutely hated it. Found it far too stiff.
I would try it and use something like thin version of Yonex PTP, Silverstring or Revolve in the crosses and maybe Velocity in the mains. These are all reasonably priced strings. I have never played with red code before. What did you string your syn gut / red code at?
 

TheIntrovert

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I would try it and use something like thin version of Yonex PTP, Silverstring or Revolve in the crosses and maybe Velocity in the mains. These are all reasonably priced strings. I have never played with red code before. What did you string your syn gut / red code at?
Both at 50. I was looking at 4G soft as like a soft poly to go for
 

TheIntrovert

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As opposed to lively/ crisp. Just try Rip Control :)

Multis become "boardy" in the end, meaning the strings notch/ lock into position and doesn't move anymore.

Both multis and polys are softer at first. They become less elastic with use.
It actually looks very intriguing Looking at it. May just have to pick up a set
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
If you are looking for a soft muted multi, try Velocity, Rip Control or FXP between 48 and 52#. Spinwise, Velocity will give you more spin.
 

TheIntrovert

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As opposed to lively/ crisp. Just try Rip Control :)

Multis become "boardy" in the end, meaning the strings notch/ lock into position and doesn't move anymore.

Both multis and polys are softer at first. They become less elastic with use.
If you are looking for a soft muted multi, try Velocity, Rip Control or FXP between 48 and 52#. Spinwise, Velocity will give you more spin.
How would a hybrid of X1 in the mains and rip control crosses work? Would it still become ‘boardy ?’ How would it do in replicating the plush feel that I like? I want to be spin of a poly cross without the stiffness of it if that’s somehow possible
 

Arak

Legend
55 is about the lowest I would string a full bed multi. I only play with NXT so my experience is limited to this string.
 

t_pac

Semi-Pro
Velocity is pretty low powered for a multi, most people would probably find 55 a bit too high (plays best in the 50-54 range IME)
 

t_pac

Semi-Pro
How would a hybrid of X1 in the mains and rip control crosses work? Would it still become ‘boardy ?’ How would it do in replicating the plush feel that I like? I want to be spin of a poly cross without the stiffness of it if that’s somehow possible

Try a softer poly in the crosses.

Ghostwire is what I use and love it but there's other fairly soft polys available these days.
 

chic

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I’m an aggressive baseliner and was looking at X1 Biphase. You said the poly will eat through the multi but the multi would still break sooner? Is that correct?
I'm saying neither will have super long life but which lasts longer will depend on your strokes and the particular strings. As others have said most likely the hybrid snaps sooner, however I could see someone with a lot of flat powerful shots breaking fb multi just as quick.
 

TheIntrovert

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I'm saying neither will have super long life but which lasts longer will depend on your strokes and the particular strings. As others have said most likely the hybrid snaps sooner, however I could see someone with a lot of flat powerful shots breaking fb multi just as quick.
Basically just summarised how I play. I just ordered a set of ALU power soft instead of regular ALU power that I usually used so may see how that fares
 

TheIntrovert

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So I tried it today. Was nearly perfect. The feel that I was looking for was there. As was the power. Spin was a bit less than I would like ideally but I’ll take the compromise
 
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