What tension do you string at?

[Chadalina]

16*15 pattern

57 poly mains - 54 syn crosses - summer
55 poly mains - 53 syn crosses - winter

My old 16*18 pattern was 49-52, open string patterns need a touch more control or they get mushy and sloppy

 

[Alexandre Bryson]

They look at stress levels but also do player testing. The recommendations on most frames seem to work fairly well if they are using Synthetic Gut or Multi. If using poly they are normally on the high side.

I would assume 20 years experience making tennis rackets of this type would also factor into it. I would doubt they'd go too extensive with the testing since they already know roughly where the range sits. You could put 50-60 on every tennis racket from the last 15 years and be totally ok, for example.

 

[Shroud]

I would assume 20 years experience making tennis rackets of this type would also factor into it. I would doubt they'd go too extensive with the testing since they already know roughly where the range sits. You could put 50-60 on every tennis racket from the last 15 years and be totally ok, for example.

or more. I have done 20+ Profiles at 86/86 with no issues. Same with Pog mids, sledgehammers, etc....

 

[USPTARF97]

My comments were strictly about tension as it relates to playability. I guess one would have to consider the structural integrity of the frame if stringing up super high. Have never had to go there with players to find what they could produce their best tennis with in terms of tension. The direction was normally down from where they were as it relates to recreational players.

 

[1HBHfanatic]

ive tried out a whole range of recenttly,
my lowest 43lbs,
my highest 69lbs,
i find that different strings feel better to me at different tensions, thus making me string at different tensions when i choose the strings
polys good on high 40s
semi poly good on low 50s
synt gut good on high 50s
i dont know what effect this going to have on my racquets, but i guess i have a cheap and sturdy enough racquet not to be too concerned about
i guess a graphite racquet is better at handling the tensions changes as i have done
a soft frame racquet possibly would not handle tension changes as well

I like this response best!! haaa mainly because its what "I wrote", so so long ago!!
I had to change account name when the system/site was updated back then, jeeezz 11yrs ago, wow.. haaa

 

[1HBHfanatic]

I find it funny how the OP never considered people stringing lower and/or higher than his poll range for that time period!!
people now playing in the 30-80 lbs, haaaa

 

[Shroud]

You're basically an alien Shroud. you should be in Area 51 waiting for people to break you out in september.

I think tension ranges are a bit wrong. Manufacturers find out the stress limits of several rackets and take an average for the upper bound and then take something sensible which is perhaps 20+ lower than the critical point and say thats the tension range. Silly i know, but what can you do?

My experience has convinced me those numbers are not even CLOSE to tollerance. And thanks for the complement

 

[Shroud]

So are you now trying to argue that the manufacturers recommendation on frames should be lower?. If you are you are correct with respect to the poly strings on the market today. String companies recommend that players string poly at lower tensions as much as 10% lower than they would other strings.
Notice this thread was over a decade ago and the string tensions have come down quite a bit for players professional and recreational. However, playing at too high a tension is still the most common error.
The gentleman playing college tennis at around 50 is very consistent among players using full poly. There is no comparison between what the majority of players are using and your frame. You have created a frame that requires something very different.
I have never seen a weighted up 400+ gram 110” frame strung at 86/66 on the court in all my years of playing and teaching tennis and I would imagine the collegiate player asking you this question never has either. I’ve never seen anything remotely close to what you are using.
“Too high” is based on what would produce the best tennis for a particular player at a tension that is safe for their arm.
You wouldn’t fall into the category of the majority of players. Your frame would exclude you from any comparison to other players.

Not sure where you are getting that I think the manufacturers recs should be LOWER. I would never say that. Its just the opposite IMHO especially if those numbers are tollerances.

That definition is impossible to test. Do you have any tests where performance was correlated to tension? Any analysis of say the pro tour equating results to tension?

FWIW I am now using a Blade 99 Team that is around 350g if memory serves. Its not exactly outside the specs one sees on the courts.

And where are you getting numbers for your claim about too high a tension being the most common error. You wrote "STILL" is there some article that said that or some study and a followup later that has the same conclusion?

 

[Shroud]

My comments were strictly about tension as it relates to playability. I guess one would have to consider the structural integrity of the frame if stringing up super high. Have never had to go there with players to find what they could produce their best tennis with in terms of tension. The direction was normally down from where they were as it relates to recreational players.

Playability is a subjective thing

 

[USPTARF97]

Shroud:
Spent my entire adult life training players. Beginner-Open level players. Playability is subjective and my self and others deal with thousands of subjects/players each year. Yes, too high a tension is the most common error we see among recreational players.
Shroud you have stated that you have very little experience with full poly. You base your opinions on the racquet you have in your hand. Which is like looking at things through a paper towel roll. Your experience is minimal.
Having to consistently bring up the subject of structural integrity of the frame and tolerances should be an indication that you might be on the extreme side of things. Your extreme tactics for frames and strings don’t apply to most and certainly no one I have seen on court.

 

[am1899]

Prince Phantom 93p 18x20 - 42lbs
Babolat Pure Aero (weighted up) - 50lbs

Tier One Black Knight 18g in both.

 

[CosmosMpower]

Ezone 98 - Hyper G 1.15 at 52 lbs
Vcore 95 - Hyper G 1.15 at 48 lbs
Vcore Pro 97 310 - Hyper G 1.15 at 50 lbs

 

[USPTARF97]

Things have changed quite a bit in the last 11years since this thread was created.

 

[J011yroger]

Things have changed quite a bit in the last 11years since this thread was created.

I've broken close to 40 racquets in the 11 years since the poll was created.

J

 

[BounceHitBounceHit]

Pure Aero. Cyclone 16 @ 60 or RPM Blast 16 @ 57


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

 

[USPTARF97]

I've broken close to 40 racquets in the 11 years since the poll was created.

J

Agree, have seen many broken frames from day in day out competitive tennis that were strung within recommendations or looser. Fairly strange when I hear of racquets that are not effected by 40-50 differentials and stringing 80-90lbs.
The change I was referring to is that I see more people dropping the tension of full poly. Folks were jumping on the poly bandwagon 10-12 years ago and using their standard synthetic gut tension like 58-60lbs. Over the last several years players are finding better playability at lower tensions and less arm problems.
Turns out Luxilon was right when they suggested players drop the tension 10% from their normal tension.
When Kuerton won the three French opens in 1997, 2000, and 2001 with the grey string producing so much spin and control at high racquet head speed everyone began jumping on board with full poly. Professional players and recreational players as well saw the light in time with stringing lower tensions with poly. More shape on the ball and less wear and tear on the arm. Some say more durability at lower tension as well.

 

[Shroud]

Shroud:
Spent my entire adult life training players. Beginner-Open level players. Playability is subjective and my self and others deal with thousands of subjects/players each year. Yes, too high a tension is the most common error we see among recreational players.
Shroud you have stated that you have very little experience with full poly. You base your opinions on the racquet you have in your hand. Which is like looking at things through a paper towel roll. Your experience is minimal.
Having to consistently bring up the subject of structural integrity of the frame and tolerances should be an indication that you might be on the extreme side of things. Your extreme tactics for frames and strings don’t apply to most and certainly no one I have seen on court.

There is no question I am on the extreme side of things but maybe just maybe everyone is not extreme enough.

And please don't tell me about my experience. You havent even hit with a setup like mine but laws of logic be damned, you just know. I on the other hand have tried everyting from 15lbs to 86lbs full kevlar. And all kind of racquets from old school pogs and profiles to new school RF97a, babs, burns and blades.

Poly is limited in a full bed as I mentioned just because few polys can be strung high enough without notching like crazy.

I just bring up frame tollerances because all you guys are wrong.

Do you have a source that shows how to determine the "too high" threshold? Any studies anything the poor rec player can do to figure out how high is too high. Certainly there is an article SOMEPLACE about the most common error. Please back up your statements.

 

[USPTARF97]

There is no question I am on the extreme side of things but maybe just maybe everyone is not extreme enough.

And please don't tell me about my experience. You havent even hit with a setup like mine but laws of logic be damned, you just know. I on the other hand have tried everyting from 15lbs to 86lbs full kevlar. And all kind of racquets from old school pogs and profiles to new school RF97a, babs, burns and blades.

Poly is limited in a full bed as I mentioned just because few polys can be strung high enough without notching like crazy.

I just bring up frame tollerances because all you guys are wrong.

Do you have a source that shows how to determine the "too high" threshold? Any studies anything the poor rec player can do to figure out how high is too high. Certainly there is an article SOMEPLACE about the most common error. Please back up your statements.

Yup, everyone is wrong in Shrouds world.
If you are thinking poly limits players you have totally been under a rock for the last two decades.
One example for you. Juan Del Portro. Played full bed Luxilon at 60-62lbs for several years. Ended up with several wrist surgeries. Now plays Lux Alu/VS Gut at 55lbs.
One very common scenario that comes into tennis shops all over the country. Club player has a frame strung with poly that is hurting the elbow or wrist. Quick question about tension and they are 55-60lbs. Lower the tension to 50-52lbs and the arm problems go away and they come in talking about how much more spin they have and the depth has come back to their strokes. If I had 5 dolllars for every time I’ve heard this scenario I would be in good shape.
It’s a shame you can’t hear anything from people with a great deal of experience. There are some of the most knowledgable people in the tennis industry on this forum with a wealth of knowledge about what is producing results on court. Your too busy trying to convince everyone that you know better and everyone is wrong.

 

[hurworld]

Yup, everyone is wrong in Shrouds world.
If you are thinking poly limits players you have totally been under a rock for the last two decades.
One example for you. Juan Del Portro. Played full bed Luxilon at 60-62lbs for several years. Ended up with several wrist surgeries. Now plays Lux Alu/VS Gut at 55lbs.
One very common scenario that comes into tennis shops all over the country. Club player has a frame strung with poly that is hurting the elbow or wrist. Quick question about tension and they are 55-60lbs. Lower the tension to 50-52lbs and the arm problems go away and they come in talking about how much more spin they have and the depth has come back to their strokes. If I had 5 dolllars for every time I’ve heard this scenario I would be in good shape.
It’s a shame you can’t hear anything from people with a great deal of experience. There are some of the most knowledgable people in the tennis industry on this forum with a wealth of knowledge about what is producing results on court. Your too busy trying to convince everyone that you know better and everyone is wrong.

You are not even talking about the same thing. @Shroud talked about using Kevlar, and he agrees that full bed poly is no bueno.

 

[USPTARF97]

You are not even talking about the same thing. @Shroud talked about using Kevlar, and he agrees that full bed poly is no bueno.

I didn’t say full bed poly wasn’t good. It has revolutionized the game of tennis. My comments about tension and strings are a general overview and actually have nothing to do with Shroud. He has very little experience with full bed poly but claims it is “no beuno”?
Recreational players commonly playing with too high a tension is not exactly cutting edge information. Anyone in the tennis industry, pro shops etc has seen this and tensions have come down in more recent years among professional players and recreational players using poly. Shroud turns this basic information into a reason to attack everyone and claim that “all you guys are wrong”.
What frame or strings Shroud uses is applicable to only him and a handful of players. It works for him but doesn’t change reality for the other 18 million tennis players in this country.

 

[SavvyStringer]

Between 43 and 50 depending on string, season, and racket. No poly above 48. Gut and multi are the only things that hit 50 for me.

 

[USPTARF97]

Wilson 6.1 95 18x20. 44lbs. BHB7 1.25
Wilson PS97 16x19. 49lbs. BHB7 1.25
Wilson PS97. 16x19. 55/52. Klip Gut/BHBZ
Wilson RF97 16x19. 58/55. Klip Gut//BHBZ

*just ran out of BHB7 and going with BHS7T.

 

[Shroud]

Yup, everyone is wrong in Shrouds world.
If you are thinking poly limits players you have totally been under a rock for the last two decades.
One example for you. Juan Del Portro. Played full bed Luxilon at 60-62lbs for several years. Ended up with several wrist surgeries. Now plays Lux Alu/VS Gut at 55lbs.
One very common scenario that comes into tennis shops all over the country. Club player has a frame strung with poly that is hurting the elbow or wrist. Quick question about tension and they are 55-60lbs. Lower the tension to 50-52lbs and the arm problems go away and they come in talking about how much more spin they have and the depth has come back to their strokes. If I had 5 dolllars for every time I’ve heard this scenario I would be in good shape.
It’s a shame you can’t hear anything from people with a great deal of experience. There are some of the most knowledgable people in the tennis industry on this forum with a wealth of knowledge about what is producing results on court. Your too busy trying to convince everyone that you know better and everyone is wrong.

Well all this talk about frames warping from tension higher than the manufacturers range and or damage from big tension differentials is wrong based on all the frames I have "abused". Certainly ONE would have had issues?? That ESP thread should have all kind of reports of destroyed frames but I don't recall one. Sure you have reports like Jolly who says kevlar destroyed his frames. But he is Jolly. Frames go weak just when he walks in the room....

And I can see where you thought I was saying Poly was limited. I should have written "My Poly experience is limited in a full bed as I mentioned..." instead of "Poly is limited in a full bed as I mentioned". I was talking about my experience with strings and I thought it was obvious. Apparently it wasnt. Poly is a great string for me as a cross. Its not stiff enough to be a main for me. Delpo btw shouldnt be hitting full poly because he is mostly a flat hitter. locked beds would be better for him.

You talk about all this great experience and I have had many people off the forums give string advice. How does one test that advice? By direct experiments! And when I try things (you should try trying things btw) that are recommended by these pundits with a wealth of knowledge about producing results on the court, I am always left disappointed. So sure you have all kind of knowledge that doesn't help me. Certainly I shouldn't ignore the lack of results with these string tests just because some internet pundit says they are experts.

I figured you couldnt point to one study or article to back up your claim of stringing too high as the biggest mistake.

 

[USPTARF97]

Initially I was going to respond to what ever that was you just wrote but I dont think it would do any good. There are many articles you can research about stringing too high a tension with the stiff strings on the market today. I’m not gonna try to explain it to you. You have too much contempt to retain anything. We see so many different scenarios in a years time where the tension is too high.
You mentioned that you have limited experience with full poly and that poly is limited as well because you can’t string it tight enough..
You should just read along with the set ups these guys are posting and you may learn something.

 

[TheIntrovert]

50 multifilament mains
48 poly cross

 

[Shroud]

Initially I was going to respond to what ever that was you just wrote but I dont think it would do any good. There are many articles you can research about stringing too high a tension with the stiff strings on the market today. I’m not gonna try to explain it to you. You have too much contempt for anyone with a different viewpoint than you to retain anything.
You mentioned that you have limited experience with full poly and that poly is limited as well because you can’t string it tight enough..
You should just read along at the set ups these guys are posting and you may learn something.

I already explained. I am not close minded like some people here. I have tried the latest fads in stringing from low tension to gut hybrids etc. The latest rage I tried was full poly in the 30-40 lb range. I tried it and what I learned is that you can't believe everything on the internet.

To be clear I never said poly is limited. My experience with full poly is limited because few can be string tight enough to get the feel I want. And those that can all notch pretty quickly.

I love how you just seem to know things, like my contempt level. LMAO

I am not making claims like what the biggest mistake is..

 

[USPTARF97]

I already explained. I am not close minded like some people here. I have tried the latest fads in stringing from low tension to gut hybrids etc. The latest rage I tried was full poly in the 30-40 lb range. I tried it and what I learned is that you can't believe everything on the internet.

To be clear I never said poly is limited. My experience with full poly is limited because few can be string tight enough to get the feel I want. And those that can all notch pretty quickly.

I love how you just seem to know things, like my contempt level. LMAO

I am not making claims like what the biggest mistake is..

There really is no point to your comments. Just move on and let the thread happen.

 

[Alexandre Bryson]

Well all this talk about frames warping from tension higher than the manufacturers range and or damage from big tension differentials is wrong based on all the frames I have "abused". Certainly ONE would have had issues?? That ESP thread should have all kind of reports of destroyed frames but I don't recall one. Sure you have reports like Jolly who says kevlar destroyed his frames. But he is Jolly. Frames go weak just when he walks in the room....

And I can see where you thought I was saying Poly was limited. I should have written "My Poly experience is limited in a full bed as I mentioned..." instead of "Poly is limited in a full bed as I mentioned". I was talking about my experience with strings and I thought it was obvious. Apparently it wasnt. Poly is a great string for me as a cross. Its not stiff enough to be a main for me. Delpo btw shouldnt be hitting full poly because he is mostly a flat hitter. locked beds would be better for him.

You talk about all this great experience and I have had many people off the forums give string advice. How does one test that advice? By direct experiments! And when I try things (you should try trying things btw) that are recommended by these pundits with a wealth of knowledge about producing results on the court, I am always left disappointed. So sure you have all kind of knowledge that doesn't help me. Certainly I shouldn't ignore the lack of results with these string tests just because some internet pundit says they are experts.

I figured you couldnt point to one study or article to back up your claim of stringing too high as the biggest mistake.

I think what UPSTAR is meaning is that people nowadays tend to string a lot higher than they need to. A lot of my friends are in the high 50's in modern rackets. In my opinion, for the stiff rackets we have today, that is too high. I advise all my friends to try lower tensions in the low 50s (for a start) and they come back saying they love them.

Personally, what i think needs to happen is that racket manufacturers need to lower the tension ranges on their products to better keep inline with stiffness ratings.

One other point, a lot of rackets nowadays (apart from the rare few exceptions) have a very low twistweight. This generally means rackets cause more arm issues than they used to. A lower tension would certainly help with combating this aswell.

 

[USPTARF97]

Notice how since the thread has been re-activated the lower tension percentages have increased. You could actually have 44-46, 47-49 selections. Players have really lowered their tension since this thread began in 2008. Majority of players I train with are in the 45-52 range with full poly. Club level players are still in the 55-60 range with Multi and Synthetic Gut. They tend to start too high if they move to poly. Common mistake. I made it as well in the early 90’s.
String tensions on the pro tour and collegiate tennis have come down as well for many. Players are finding better playability with poly at lower tensions. It just is what it is.

 

[Alexandre Bryson]

There is a direct correlation between racket stiffness and tension over the years

 

[Shroud]

There really is no point to your comments. Just move on and let the thread happen.

It would be easier to do if you weren't sniping me in every thread. Seems any time i post anything USPTARF97 isnt far behind. You seem to be the one not letting this thread happen. Look back at my first post #87 and then yours #90. If you cared about letting the thread happen as you say, you wouldnt have jumped in like you did....

 

[USPTARF97]

It would be easier to do if you weren't sniping me in every thread. Seems any time i post anything USPTARF97 isnt far behind. You seem to be the one not letting this thread happen. Look back at my first post #87 and then yours #90. If you cared about letting the thread happen as you say, you wouldnt have jumped in like you did....

Extremes are cool and work for some people whether it is 30’s or 70’s or whatever. Your always going to be in conflict taking the position that because you are on the extreme side everyone else is wrong.

 

[Shroud]

Extremes are cool and work for some people whether it is 30’s or 70’s. Your always going to be in conflict taking the position that because you are on the extreme side everyone else is wrong.

Clearly you didnt understand what I was saying. Everyone you say agrees that I string way too high and that it will damage frames. There are probably about 30 frames I have strung that high. Many with big differentials. Many of the frames have been restrung many times and most get the cross strings restrung only. All of this if everyone was right would have over the last 5+ years resulted in many dead frames. I have ZERO. Thats more evidence than the contrary view point so I have to go with my practical experience over words from people with no experience. Have you strung a racket over 80lbs????

To be clear yes everyone is wrong about the weakness of frames at least in terms of exceeding the rec tension. I am not saying that anyone is wrong as far as what is the best tension. That is personal and no wrong answer exists.

 

[Alexandre Bryson]

Clearly you didnt understand what I was saying. Everyone you say agrees that I string way too high and that it will damage frames. There are probably about 30 frames I have strung that high. Many with big differentials. Many of the frames have been restrung many times and most get the cross strings restrung only. All of this if everyone was right would have over the last 5+ years resulted in many dead frames. I have ZERO. Thats more evidence than the contrary view point so I have to go with my practical experience over words from people with no experience. Have you strung a racket over 80lbs????

To be clear yes everyone is wrong about the weakness of frames at least in terms of exceeding the rec tension. I am not saying that anyone is wrong as far as what is the best tension. That is personal and no wrong answer exists.

The reason is plain and simple... Tennis rackets CAN go a lot higher than the recommended tension... But harking back to one of my previous points, manufacturers won't put the tension range as 20-100lbs (for example) for fear of people getting angry that they advertise that 100 is a sensible tension.

Manufacturers use a mixture of testing and common sense when working out their tension ranges. The fact you have not broken any frames is down to the fact your headsize is huge and therefore string tension is not as much of a worry. 86 in a racket that is 110 headsize would be similar to ~74Lbs in a 85/90 sq inch racket.

 

[Shroud]

The reason is plain and simple... Tennis rackets CAN go a lot higher than the recommended tension... But harking back to one of my previous points, manufacturers won't put the tension range as 20-100lbs (for example) for fear of people getting angry that they advertise that 100 is a sensible tension.

Manufacturers use a mixture of testing and common sense when working out their tension ranges. The fact you have not broken any frames is down to the fact your headsize is huge and therefore string tension is not as much of a worry. 86 in a racket that is 110 headsize would be similar to ~74Lbs in a 85/90 sq inch racket.

Exactly they can go higher and be safe!!

And fwiw I did 86/86 in a POG mid 93" and in 95" profiles and 100" dunlops and Gammas. My blade 99 is at 86/66. No issues with any frame. I also did 86/26 in an old sledgehammer with no issues. So yep the range is much higher than the sticker.

FWIW I think I need to restring the blade. Its dt is now 43. Which is 62 lbs.

 

[USPTARF97]

None of that concerns me or anyone I know. Tolerances is a discussion for the high tension stringers on forums. See frames break often strung at recommended tension. It’s your frame. String it however you want. Tolerances is not a discussion that I need to have with players or a concern for my frames.
Not a topic I hear discussed anywhere.

“Mixture of testing and common sense” this statement is spot on.

 

[Alexandre Bryson]

At the end of the day, everyone has their own opinions.

I currently string my Head i.Prestiges MP at 46. Testing out some Luxilon BBO in one and Luxilon BB Alu power in the other. Full beds but im leaning towards hybrid. Open for suggestion!

I've tried Luxilon 4G and PSG with duraflex..... Was a bad idea with the 4G. That stuff is s***.

 

[USPTARF97]

At the end of the day, everyone has their own opinions.

I currently string my Head i.Prestiges MP at 46. Testing out some Luxilon BBO in one and Luxilon BB Alu power in the other. Full beds but im leaning towards hybrid. Open for suggestion!

I've tried Luxilon 4G and PSG with duraflex..... Was a bad idea with the 4G. That stuff is s***.

BBO Mains/ Alu Crosses 45/45

*prefer the Alu 1.25 full bed rather than BBO 1.30. BBO you just have string a bit looser than Alu.

 

[Alexandre Bryson]

I

BBO Mains/ Alu Crosses 45/45

I used to do Solinco tour bite diamond rough 17 and Yonext ATG 16 at 45 in my 6.1 95's. That seemed to work out quite nicely in the 18x20. But i feel these rackets need something crisper.

 

[USPTARF97]

Have a reel of TBHS7T on the way. Fired up! Powerful string with killer string tension maintenance.

 

[Alexandre Bryson]

before my six ones, i used the prince tour 100 16x18 and that worked well with the hybrid i mentioned in my previous. This Head has a slightly dead-er response to it

 

[dunlopfan]

I string my Speed Pro with a poly at 56 but when I used my Biomimatic 200 I strung it with the same poly at 55. Gotta play around with the tension until you get it right.

 

[Injured Again]

Have a reel of TBHS7T on the way. Fired up! Powerful string with killer string tension maintenance.

Just got my backordered reel from Tennis Warehouse last night. Will be stringing it at 51 pounds in the center 8 mains, decreasing to 39 pounds at the outer mains, and 46 pounds in the center five mains, decreasing to 33 pounds in the top and bottom crosses, in an SW104 18X19 racquet.

 

[USPTARF97]

[/QUOTE]

Look forward to hearing some reports. Hoping my reel will be at the house when I get back home.

 

[Injured Again]

Look forward to hearing some reports. Hoping my reel will be at the house when I get back home.

I was a participant in the TW playtest and this became my go-to string based on my experiences. I still have some slight misgivings about going to this string. At age 57, I had hoped to continue to play with a full bed of lower powered poly strings for as long as I could, then move towards more powerful setups as I age further and lose racquet head speed. But the S7T string gives me so much more pop for a relatively low loss of control, and does everything else as well as any low powered poly, that I just can't not use it. The pop and control I get when really flattening out a shot is incredible. There's a lot of ball speed but without any of the "hot spot" feeling.

I strung at 51/46. The string felt relatively insensitive to tension loss as far as ball response, and went 15 hours for me without breaking and while retaining a large percentage of its initial playability. I don't see needing to change the tension any. This next time will only be the second stringing with the S7T, and if it feels the same, I'm going to buy out the entire TW stock of reels.

Really looking forward to hearing your impressions!

 

[USPTARF97]

I was a participant in the TW playtest and this became my go-to string based on my experiences. I still have some slight misgivings about going to this string. At age 57, I had hoped to continue to play with a full bed of lower powered poly strings for as long as I could, then move towards more powerful setups as I age further and lose racquet head speed. But the S7T string gives me so much more pop for a relatively low loss of control, and does everything else as well as any low powered poly, that I just can't not use it. The pop and control I get when really flattening out a shot is incredible. There's a lot of ball speed but without any of the "hot spot" feeling.

I strung at 51/46. The string felt relatively insensitive to tension loss as far as ball response, and went 15 hours for me without breaking and while retaining a large percentage of its initial playability. I don't see needing to change the tension any. This next time will only be the second stringing with the S7T, and if it feels the same, I'm going to buy out the entire TW stock of reels.

Really looking forward to hearing your impressions!

Sounds good, have been playing Gut/poly for the last 5-6yrs and my strokes and serve have smoothed out quite a bit from when playing full poly. BHB7 is a powerful poly as well and found that I can swing with about the same racquet head speed as the Gut/poly and generate good power, spin etc. Control is better with the full poly and over cooking a groundstroke doesn’t happen. Sounds like the BHS7T may even have a bit more power and better tension maintenance. Have had really good results with Tourna strings.

 

[Injured Again]

I had never tried, and frankly never heard of, Tourna strings prior to the playtest. When I mention I've switched to Tourna, the most common reaction is "I thought they only made overgrips..." I guess they haven't devoted much marketing or sponsorship money to making their name known, at least not in the circles I run in. All of the mentions from the playtest probably will increase their sales quite a bit - the reels are now sold out again.

 

[jwalk]

Depends. I play with a standard newer model Babolat PD.

When using 16G Syn Gut I string at 58lbs.

Recently playing with Diadem solstice power 16G strung at 50lb. I'm enjoying it. Still no the feel of syn gut though.

 

[USPTARF97]

I had never tried, and frankly never heard of, Tourna strings prior to the playtest. When I mention I've switched to Tourna, the most common reaction is "I thought they only made overgrips..." I guess they haven't devoted much marketing or sponsorship money to making their name known, at least not in the circles I run in. All of the mentions from the playtest probably will increase their sales quite a bit - the reels are now sold out again.

Received an email that a shipment is on the way. Have my fingers crossed it’s going to ship.

 

[EasternRocks]

53/51 in a 17g poly in all conditions except extreme weather changes.