Who has, technically, the best service action in the game?

Murray's motion is very nice...His 1st serve is quickly becoming one of the best on tour. If he could hit decent 2nd serves, he'd be a top 4-5 server in the men's game.

Fed's motion is also really nice, and because of his perfectly disguised toss, you never know where he's going with it, which makes it incredibly effective. Last night was the first time in a while that Fed's serve REALLY came through when he needed it. /tangent.

I agree with you, Fed and Murray.
 

dincuss

Hall of Fame
I think that Sampras or Becker had the best techniques. Edberg had a nice one as well.

Nowadays I say Djokovic or Federer.
 

Nadalfan89

Hall of Fame
I like Roddick's. When he bends those legs real low, you know that thing is going to fly.

Federer's is graceful and effortless like the rest of his game.
 
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Deleted member 25923

Guest
Feliciano Lopez, you can't get any better in the smooth department IMO. I pick him over Federer merely because they are equally smooth, but the tiebreak is Lopez's serve is better.

I couldn't agree more. He's definately got the smoothest motion on tour (or at least that i've seen)
 

Bjorn

Rookie
I guess it's all a matter of taste.

Roddick has one of those abbreviated back-swings where he brings his racquet straight up - I don't find that easy on the eye. Federer has a slight abbreviation. I prefer the more fluent action which is why Murray's is my favourite.

I say that Bjorn99's two proteges have the best service actions.:)

I was sure there would be a few "Bjorn" usernames floating around here.

Bjorn is actually my real name, though. Named after the great man himself. :D
 

supineAnimation

Hall of Fame
Murray doesn't use his left arm enough to create the pivot over which his upper body should snap. Other than that it's a great serve. Speaking from an instructor's point of view, it doesn't matter what you do before you reach the trophy pose. If you hit the correct trophy pose and execute the remainder of the serve properly, you can do a back flip and a Pete Townshend windmill for all I care. So while players like Roddick and Monfils have less traditional stances and pre-trophy motions, Roddick hits a perfect trophy pose and gets more force snapping up into the ball than anyone I've ever seen. If you're asking about aesthetics rather than technique or results, I would go with Federer because it's a very classic motion, the whole process, very little wasted energy, easy on the body and great results to boot.
 

Bjorn

Rookie
Murray doesn't use his left arm enough to create the pivot over which his upper body should snap. Other than that it's a great serve. Speaking from an instructor's point of view, it doesn't matter what you do before you reach the trophy pose. If you hit the correct trophy pose and execute the remainder of the serve properly, you can do a back flip and a Pete Townshend windmill for all I care. So while players like Roddick and Monfils have less traditional stances and pre-trophy motions, Roddick hits a perfect trophy pose and gets more force snapping up into the ball than anyone I've ever seen. If you're asking about aesthetics rather than technique or results, I would go with Federer because it's a very classic motion, the whole process, very little wasted energy, easy on the body and great results to boot.

It looks pretty solid from here. What should his left arm be doing more of? Should it be more side-on to encourage greater upper-body rotation?
 
Murray's is very natural and fluent, its the motion an American footballer uses when throwing the football.

Federer's wins it for me and this was always going to be the case, his motion for every stroke is near the best of all players whom play the game, baring possibly his backhand, altho even that is easy on the eye.
 

jwbarrientos

Hall of Fame
IMHO Pete, Roger ... those I'd like to watch John McEnroe, Nole, Marat Safin, Andy Murray.

Those who I think are strange Cilic, Rafa, Mirni, Fernando Gonzalez.
 

007

Professional
For me, the top 10 service motions (current + past) goto:
- Sampras
- Kraijicek
- Stich
- Federer
- Arthurs
- Lopez
- Berdych
- Safin
- Rios
- Dent
 

Puma

Rookie
Feliciano Lopez, you can't get any better in the smooth department IMO. I pick him over Federer merely because they are equally smooth, but the tiebreak is Lopez's serve is better.


Yep....His serve motion is very smooth and natural looking. Effortless. Roddick looks like he is swinging out of his shoes and doesn't use the outwide serve enough.
 
For me, the top 10 service motions (current + past) goto:
- Sampras
- Kraijicek
- Stich
- Federer
- Arthurs
- Lopez
- Berdych
- Safin
- Rios
- Dent

Aren't these going on who's service is the best? Rather than who's service motion is the best?
 

DaMiBru

New User
Not talking about the best serve, but the nicest, smoothest looking serve.

Federer's action is beautiful to watch but it's Murray for me. Poetry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GFkqD7GBZQ

Nadal's action, for example, does nothing for me. It's clinky and it seems unnatural.

What say you?

If I'm allowed to pick a retired player, whom after all took a big bite out of the game, I would say it would have to be Sampras. His service motion is an abosolute beauty to watch. Federer is also extremely sweet. On the women's side it would have to be Serena.
 

Jason Swerve

Hall of Fame
A few people here got it right. There's no point in separating the tours. Serena (in her prime) had a better serve than Sampras. Not just her actual motion, but her service statistics were superior. It's more relevant when considering Sampras played in an era of faster courts and weaker returners. The women Serena played on her slower surfaces were better returners than the men Sampras played in his heyday. The WTA field's governed by strong returns as opposed to men and their focus on strong serves. Serena's serves were head and shoulders above these returners.
 

NonP

Legend
Pistol is the obvious answer - seconded by none other than Pancho Segura who knew and saw more tennis than all of you jokers combined - but you teenyboppers are ignoring Noah. Good ol' Data's rundown is still a beaut:

NonP, I've often listed Noah as one of the most beautiful/graceful/efficient and powerful servers ever! I would rank his flat serve among the fastest (I was once told his flat serve was recorded in the early 90's/late 80's at 140mph but have not been able to verify that). His slice serve, was among the top 5 I've ever seen. He had a pure slice in both the deuce and add courts, with little topspin component. Which meant big speed, and big break. His ad court slice down the middle was the best I've ever seen.

The only knock I have on him, was that his flat serve was very flat, so he had HUGE power, but a slightly lower percentage, which wasn't helped by his tendency to hit down. I think b/c of this, he had to rely on more spin serves, even on the 1st serve to keep his percentages up. His kick serve was also not great, partly because he started tossing futher to the right, as his career went on. I actually think this was more efficient, and improved his slice, but he got a bit less kick. Thus, his second serve wasn't all that fast, and didn't have all that much kick!

Nevertheless, what an absolutely beautiful motion, and when on, extreme power.

Also Krajicek's motion is textbook perfection. Those 3 are the correct answers among candidates of the last 40-ish years.

P.S. Arthurs' wasn't half bad either, though I personally find it a little too smooth like Stich's.
 
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