who out of the top 10 in the 2004 year end rankings can zverev beat consistently and comfortably?
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Third Serve
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Gaudio definitely. Henman and Coria also possible and no for the others
Nadal_Django
Legend
All of them except for Federer.
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
Gaudio (overranked with that RG win) and Coria off clay (but expect bakery on clay). Could break even with Moya, Henman, Nalbandian (damn inconsistency). Gets pwned by Federer, Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, HC Agassi.
You sure bro? Federer is playing better than ever in 2018/2019 and Zverev owned him last time they played.
2004-2009 baby Fed shouldn’t be a problem for nextgen Titan Zverev.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
no none option ? 
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
I voted for the bottom 6 of the list.
Then again, I was considering whether he could beat them now.
Then again, I was considering whether he could beat them now.
Nadal_Django
Legend
Zverev will beat 2004 Fed no doubt about that, but the titles says comfortably and consistently.
arvind13
Professional
roddick would win most of the time with his serve and forehand. zverev would consistently beat henman on clay, but not on other surfaces. henman's serve and volley made it tough even for the top 5 of that time. zverev isn't used to hitting good passing shots.
arvind13
Professional
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
What advantage over Roddick? Seriously?
Roddick could slice and Zverev wouldn't punish it. Then when he gets an easy forehand he wrecks it. Rinse, repeat. Roddick on clay he probably beats yeah, but off clay he goes like 1-9 in every 10 matches or so, and 0-10 on grass.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
No one except Gaudio and even that is a doubt at majors
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Agreed that Roddick would own Zverev on grass, but on HC it's a different story, Zverev would punish Roddick's haphazard net approaches and pin him behind the baseline with his depth of shot. Roddick lacks the baseline variety and accuracy of Federer, Safin, Nalby, who would hurt Zverev from the baseline.
I'd put Zed a 60-40 favorite on hard. Roddick could still win by overpowering him with serve+forehand, but for most HC matches I'd take Sascha's consistency. Zverev would crush on clay and Roddick would crush on grass.
Hmm good point. I’d say 60-40 in Zverev’s favour. 04 Fed might win 1-2 matches on grass or fast HC if his serve is clicking.Zverev will beat 2004 Fed no doubt about that, but the titles says comfortably and consistently.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
Not Moya?
arvind13
Professional
its the same story on hard courts. roddick would own zverev at us open and the hard court masters with his serve and forehand, and his net approaches weren't that bad, it would work against a player with crappy passing shots such as zverev. on hard courts, just like grass, roddick would win most of the time by overpowering zverev with his serve and forehand. 2004 roddick took federer to a tough four set battle on grass and won a major the year prior on us open. roddick>>zverev
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Zverev can get wins against Roddick on clay, Coria on HC, Gaudio most places except majors but don't see how he beats other players
arvind13
Professional
Druss
Hall of Fame
Henman would straight set Zverev on grass. The rest you’re right.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, you're right. Off clay he'd be able to beat Moya pretty comfortably
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
I mean, 2004 wasn't one of Moya's better years. He just about held on to a top ten ranking but that was in large part thanks to high seedings. The 2005 slide was already looking likely. He played much better in 2002 and 2003 (and 1998, of course).
Actually, he did start 2004 well. But it all went downhill from the summer onwards.
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arvind13
Professional
no he won't. moya was tough on hard courts too. maybe he would break even with moya
mike danny
Bionic Poster
LOL what?
Eren
Professional
If anyone honestly believes this then he/she is absolutely re--****ed and yes I know your comment was sarcastic/facetious.
99-1 in Fed's favour lol.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Did you see what Raonic just did to Zverev at the AO an he is a poor man's Roddick.
Roddick would own Zverev everywhere outside of clay.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
At RG Roddick would at least go 2-1 sets up.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Federer
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Roddick's approaches were mainly a thing exploited by Federer. It was often just a desperation move after losing multiple points in a row, not a consistent part of his strategy. He likely wouldn't even do them enough for Zverev to take advantage.
A-Rod was accused of being a ball-basher back in the day, but he's downright Federer-esque in his variety compared to most of the players Sascha is used to facing these days.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Roddick was a quality ball bashers. Quality ball bashing is underrated.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
NatF
Bionic Poster
Roddick loved being behind the baseline lol. He's a grinder with a mediocre forehand, don't see him winning the majority against Roddick on HC.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
First of all, how dare you
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
I believe this refers to Zviraffe.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Meant Zverev, 2004 Arod's fh is from another planet compared to Zverev's.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Some of this is all match ups too. Most of it is match ups actually. I voted Henman, Coria, and Gaudio for the record. Coria and Gaudio on HC are pretty obvious, and I think Henman would get passed a lot on anything that's not grass. Maybe not, but it's a gut feeling. Zverev would score wins over a few others though. He could keep it close (or beat) Moya and Nalbandian, and score a few wins on Roddick and Safin, and old Agassi in BO3. Hewitt would be a terrible match up for him IMO, and he obviously can't lace 2004 Federer's tennis shoes.
So in summary, the only guys he beats consistently and comfortably are those 3 IMO, but it's not like he'd get killed by the others outside Federer, and probably Hewitt.
In BO5 the list shrinks though. He wouldn't beat Roddick anywhere except the French. He's not beating Agassi or Safin at either HC slam either. The others are toss ups.
So in summary, the only guys he beats consistently and comfortably are those 3 IMO, but it's not like he'd get killed by the others outside Federer, and probably Hewitt.
In BO5 the list shrinks though. He wouldn't beat Roddick anywhere except the French. He's not beating Agassi or Safin at either HC slam either. The others are toss ups.
BorgTheGOAT
Legend
Roddick’s net approaches were indeed among the dumbest I have ever seen, but Zverev isn’t a great passer either. I doubt that this would be a deciding factor. Roddicks serve and forehand should be enough to beat Ziraffe.
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Anyone saying Federer in the poll is having a laugh of course.
Coria probably, assuming it's not clay. Gaudio definitely
Coria probably, assuming it's not clay. Gaudio definitely
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