Who was the umpire in the Nadal/Djokovic match?

[Gary Duane]

So far I only know that there were no time violations called in the first set, and that both players went over 35 seconds.

This sort of supports the idea of a few members here, Mustard, others, that they should just do away with the 20 second rule. Obviously it is being totally ignored. I think maybe the umpires themselves have had enough of trying to enforce a very bad rule.

 

[helterskelter]

There was a time violation called at 4-5 40-40.

 

[Gary Duane]

There was a time violation called at 4-5 40-40.

First set? I had to stop checking, had to go to work. I'll resume later. I wanted to take a really REALLY close look at this match, because I think it will be referred to in the future as a major turning point for both players. I'm curious to see if it was really more time, because as I said both players had already gone over 35 seconds, and sometimes close to 40. Earlier - I think it was in the 4-2 game - Novak was over 30 seconds on just about every point, probably because he was checking out the position of the sun.

Who was the umpire?

 

[jm1980]

Cedric Mourier

 

[stringertom]

Yes, Cedric has asked Carlos for good accommodations recommendations in Helsinki. They are both now FINNISH as chair refs, along with whoever was in the chair for the Nadal/Sock match. Does anyone remember who that poor chap was???

 

[Gary Duane]

Looks like he's no great favorite of Fed's:

http://en.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/370079.html

 

[Backspin1183]

There was a time violation called at 4-5 40-40.

And the crowd booed the umpire :grin:

 

[JSummers]

Yes, Cedric has asked Carlos for good accommodations recommendations in Helsinki. They are both now FINNISH as chair refs, along with whoever was in the chair for the Nadal/Sock match. Does anyone remember who that poor chap was???

I looks like that COUNTRY has a booming immigration population recently, no?

 

[Gary Duane]

As I posted earlier in the Shot Clock thread:

4-2, 1st set of yesterday's match between Nadal and Djokovic:

I start checking after the first point, because you can't time the breaks very well. On even games they take between 40 and 50 second.

The rest:

9 points, average time of 32.6 seconds between service points.

5-4, Rafa serving: 14 points, average 31.8 seconds.

In other words, in the two most intense games, they are actually serving at the same pace.

But Nadal gets a violation at 40/40 in a game that he has to hold to save the set. When the violation is called, it is 31 seconds.

Lots of questions. The biggest question I continue to ask: why did Nadal get a warning, but no warning for Novak?

If this is a general thing, wouldn't it have been fairer to just say this?

"Gentlemen, you are both playing slow. You need to speed it up."

But the umpires will not say that because apparently they are afraid of a reaction from the players and the crowd. They are probably thinking, "Who's next? It happened to Bernard, it might happen to all of us. We lose our jobs if we try to control the pace."

So gradually it is going back to what it was before a supposed rule was put into place.

 

[MichaelNadal]

There was a time violation called at 4-5 40-40.

And it was a ridiculous time to call it. The entire stadium groaned and the commies complained.

 

[Bartelby]

The umpire was probably following a protocol when he did this when he did.

Commentators like McEnroe complaining about this are beyond ridiculous.

His lack of respect for umpires and linesmen was simply disgusting.

And it was a ridiculous time to call it. The entire stadium groaned and the commies complained.

 

[Bartelby]

That's not the way it's done. Nadal simply ignores warnings. Djokovic probably does too. They are in general too stubborn to change and the penalty too small to compel them.

If this is a general thing, wouldn't it have been fairer to just say this?

"Gentlemen, you are both playing slow. You need to speed it up."

 

[Sentinel]

Was suresh the umpire in the Serena semifinal. Looked a lot like suresh. Can't find a good enough pic, this is a very old one.

 

[Noelan]

As I posted earlier in the Shot Clock thread:

4-2, 1st set of yesterday's match between Nadal and Djokovic:

I start checking after the first point, because you can't time the breaks very well. On even games they take between 40 and 50 second.

The rest:

9 points, average time of 32.6 seconds between service points.

5-4, Rafa serving: 14 points, average 31.8 seconds.

In other words, in the two most intense games, they are actually serving at the same pace.

But Nadal gets a violation at 40/40 in a game that he has to hold to save the set. When the violation is called, it is 31 seconds.

Lots of questions. The biggest question I continue to ask: why did Nadal get a warning, but no warning for Novak?

If this is a general thing, wouldn't it have been fairer to just say this?

"Gentlemen, you are both playing slow. You need to speed it up."

But the umpires will not say that because apparently they are afraid of a reaction from the players and the crowd. They are probably thinking, "Who's next? It happened to Bernard, it might happen to all of us. We lose our jobs if we try to control the pace."

So gradually it is going back to what it was before a supposed rule was put into place.

Poor Nadal umpires don't like him, but they do like Novak

 

[LETitBE]

The whole trouble is all he received was a warning.