Why High-Impact Exercise Is Good for Your Bones

SteveI

Legend
A recent NY Times article I liked. For bone health there's not much else that can replicate the effect of high impact exercises. Hopping as high as you can and landing in balance is a particularly effective exercise you can do.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/07/why-high-impact-exercise-is-good-for-your-bones/

I know weight bearing exercise is great for your bone health. How about the wear and tear to your joints with high impact exercise?

"In the meantime, anyone uncertain about the state of his or her bones should consult a physician before undertaking high-impact exercise (a caveat that also applies to those with a history of joint problems, including arthritis). For his part, Dr. Tobias says, “I plan to keep running until my joints wear out.”

If you have great joint health... there should not be a problem. If have that history of joint problems, including arthritis.. I would be very very careful..indeed. Great find on this one.. Thanks!!
 
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boramiNYC

Hall of Fame
Flexibility should be an essential part of high impact exercises. When a joint is not flexible and the impact is applied not progressively or too suddenly the problems occur.

All the soft tissues as well as the bones adapt to the high impact but it takes time for them to adapt and good maintenance to keep them more elastic but strong.
 
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ollinger

G.O.A.T.
The article answers a question of no particular importance--how can relatively young people maintain or add bone mass. It's not at all demonstrated that any of these techniques would benefit those for whom it is truly a problem--people (especially female) who are over 50.
 
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boramiNYC

Hall of Fame
^^^
The following is an except from an article by one of the leading orthopedic surgeon on benefits of tennis. It cites some studies on bone health that can be further investigated if desired.

http://ustaassets-beta.americaneagle.com/assets/1/15/Phys_SportMed.TennisHealth.pdf

Bone Health

For years, scientists and physicians have recommended impact or weightbearing exercises for people who want to increase bone strength and density and prevent osteoporosis. According to Wolff’s law, bones remodel in response to mechanical demands placed on them. When used and “loaded,” more bone is laid down, and the “stressed” bone gets stronger.31 Tennis places bone-building dynamic stresses on the body, with a positive impact on skeletal health and overall durability. In general, the body adapts to bouts of mechanical overload by getting stronger. This adaptation is not only true of bones but is also seen in muscles, tendons, and ligaments.31 Optimal skeletal health necessitates movement and loading, and “if you don’t use it, you lose it.” As exercise physiologist Thomas Cureton once said, “the human body is the only machine that breaks down when not used.” Experts usually recommend weight training, running, jogging, or even walking to build bones; however, when it comes to an activity that creates repetitive impact with the ground and impact when striking the ball, nothing beats tennis. Bone development for children is critical, and bone growth and maintenance for seniors is equally important. Pluim et al1 analyzed 22 independent studies documenting the positive impact of tennis on bone health and bone density. Tennis players consistently had greater bone density in their dominant arm and better bone density in the hip and lumbar spine compared with age-matched controls. Interestingly, bone mineral content and bone density were greater in those who took up tennis at earlier ages. This underscores the importance of bone-building activities like tennis in children and teenagers, especially young females, who reach peak bone mass in their late 20s. The more bone that is “banked” early, the less vulnerable an individual will be, as expected skeletal losses occur in middle age and older. The key to a healthy adult skeleton begins in youth with proper exercise and nutrition. T hese are the critical bone-building years. Researchers also agree that tennis, 3 times per week, supports the exercise recommendations of the ACSM regarding physical activity and bone health, both for the development of bone minerals in children and adolescents and the preservation of bone health during adulthood.32 In the ACSM position statement on physical activity and bone health, the authors specifically cite tennis as a bone-building option. Using tennis players as the experimental group and comparing them with sedentary people of the same age, Pirnay et al33 clearly demonstrated that there was a positive correlation between the tennis players and bone mineralization. In another study on this topic, the bone mineral content of athletes (tennis players) was significantly greater than that of non-athletes, but did not differ among the sports. Therefore, tennis contributes to bone mineral density.34 When one considers the bonebuilding potential of tennis with its ability to improve balance, coordination, and agility, tennis becomes an attractive preventive strategy for the commons falls and/or fracture problems encountered in adult and elderly populations. Again, starting early, before higher level of fall risk becomes a contraindication to tennis, is the key.
 
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LakeSnake

Professional
The article said you can get the benefits from running a 10 minute mile, didn't it? So... hopping down from the refrigerator's not really necessary.
 

boramiNYC

Hall of Fame
The article said you can get the benefits from running a 10 minute mile, didn't it? So... hopping down from the refrigerator's not really necessary.

Yes I think so. That's a pretty fast jog for most. And I hope your refrigerator is not just 13 inches high.
 

LakeSnake

Professional
Yes I think so. That's a pretty fast jog for most. And I hope your refrigerator is not just 13 inches high.

I seem to recall a thread around here where a significant minority thought ATP pros could run 5 minute miles or something ;).
 

WildVolley

Legend
The article answers a question of no particular importance--how can relatively young people maintain or add bone mass. It's not at all demonstrated that any of these techniques would benefit those for whom it is truly a problem--people (especially female) who are over 50.

Is the article wrong that it claims it is possible to bank greater bone density and mass prior to being over the age of 50?

I believe I should have banked some serious bone density in my legs from being a long jumper in college. The peak impact force from long jumping is quite impressive. We also used to do some really crazy plyometric and jumping drills. The one I recall being the craziest was called a "depth jump" if I'm remembering correctly. We'd stand on playground equipment about 6' in the air and then step off into the sand. Keeping the legs slightly bent, you'd try to relax during the fall and then stop the squat as soon as possible once you landed. I wouldn't recommend drills like that unless you're already a highly trained athlete.
 

WildVolley

Legend
as with most things: a little bit is good, too much not so much.

It suggests if you're healthy and want to add density to your hip, you should shoot for experiencing at least 4Gs on landing. That doesn't mean you need to do depth jumps off of 6', but it suggests jumping on and off a box about 2' high would be good.

I'd guess the standing long jump that LeeD and I were competing in would also put the body through at least 4Gs on landing, but it isn't the safest if you aren't already fit and flexible.
 

Spin Doctor

Professional
The article is strictly about bone density. Yeah, high impact may be good for your bones but what about your ligaments, tendons and cartilage?? Not so much..
 

boramiNYC

Hall of Fame
The article is strictly about bone density. Yeah, high impact may be good for your bones but what about your ligaments, tendons and cartilage?? Not so much..

"In general, the body adapts to bouts of mechanical overload by getting stronger. This adaptation is not only true of bones but is also seen in muscles, tendons, and ligaments."

Excerpt from the excerpt above. You can follow the reference in the pdf article.
 

SteveI

Legend
"In general, the body adapts to bouts of mechanical overload by getting stronger. This adaptation is not only true of bones but is also seen in muscles, tendons, and ligaments."

Excerpt from the excerpt above. You can follow the reference in the pdf article.

This might be more the case in practice "In general, the body responds to bouts of mechanical overload by injury." For the average person, high impact exercises are not a safe way to gain or maintain fitness. If you are a professional athlete it may have merit. I for one (and my joints) will be careful. I will walk, bike and swim when possible. The simple physics seem to apply. Overall an interesting article... I just wonder if it has applications for the masses.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
This might be more the case in practice "In general, the body responds to bouts of mechanical overload by injury." For the average person, high impact exercises are not a safe way to gain or maintain fitness. If you are a professional athlete it may have merit. I for one (and my joints) will be careful. I will walk, bike and swim when possible. The simple physics seem to apply. Overall an interesting article... I just wonder if it has applications for the masses.

Only train my neck now, http://www.usawa.com/USAWA Uploads/2010/06/PaulAndersonNeck.jpg
 

boramiNYC

Hall of Fame
This might be more the case in practice "In general, the body responds to bouts of mechanical overload by injury." For the average person, high impact exercises are not a safe way to gain or maintain fitness. If you are a professional athlete it may have merit. I for one (and my joints) will be careful. I will walk, bike and swim when possible. The simple physics seem to apply. Overall an interesting article... I just wonder if it has applications for the masses.

What average person are you referring to? Ever watched Wall E, the movie? Remember the obese individuals who couldn't even walk? That became their standard of physical condition. Now, that is not okay at all for a normal human being just because the 'mass' is in that state.

Simple physics? What about:
As exercise physiologist Thomas Cureton once said, “the human body is the only machine that breaks down when not used.”

Maybe your joints are weakened because you didn't use them properly and enough? That is more plausible in the scientific point of view than you overused them. And to rehabilitate your joints you avoid using them further. Hmmm. Doesn't add up to me.
 

WildVolley

Legend
This might be more the case in practice "In general, the body responds to bouts of mechanical overload by injury." For the average person, high impact exercises are not a safe way to gain or maintain fitness. If you are a professional athlete it may have merit. I for one (and my joints) will be careful. I will walk, bike and swim when possible. The simple physics seem to apply. Overall an interesting article... I just wonder if it has applications for the masses.

I think it has application for the masses. Jumping is an impact exercise and it isn't particularly damaging as long as you don't over do it. You can always start with walking if you are out of shape and then do more exercises before you feel safe to jump.

According to the literature I see online, even something like doing a little jump rope work can have a positive influence. A lot of moderately healthy individuals can jump up and off of an 18" box safely. You don't need to do a great number of repetitions for this to be beneficial.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
I think it has application for the masses. Jumping is an impact exercise and it isn't particularly damaging as long as you don't over do it. You can always start with walking if you are out of shape and then do more exercises before you feel safe to jump.

According to the literature I see online, even something like doing a little jump rope work can have a positive influence. A lot of moderately healthy individuals can jump up and off of an 18" box safely. You don't need to do a great number of repetitions for this to be beneficial.

Will jumping in the deep end of a pool work? Jumping off the bottom up
 

SteveI

Legend
What average person are you referring to? Ever watched Wall E, the movie? Remember the obese individuals who couldn't even walk? That became their standard of physical condition. Now, that is not okay at all for a normal human being just because the 'mass' is in that state.

Simple physics? What about:
As exercise physiologist Thomas Cureton once said, “the human body is the only machine that breaks down when not used.”

Maybe your joints are weakened because you didn't use them properly and enough? That is more plausible in the scientific point of view than you overused them. And to rehabilitate your joints you avoid using them further. Hmmm. Doesn't add up to me.

I am 57 years old and have been playing tennis for 47 years about 3-5 times a week and still have very good joint health. I also played basketball, hockey, soccer, baseball and football during those years. Still have all my joints and playing 4.0 plus tennis. Common sense has been my guide. Weight management, lots of R.I.C.E., listening to my body and not doing anything stupid. When you hit my age and are still playing and have all your joints working.. then we can chat. I think the study is interesting.. not complete and not very well done.. as usual..
 

SteveI

Legend
^^^
The following is an except from an article by one of the leading orthopedic surgeon on benefits of tennis. It cites some studies on bone health that can be further investigated if desired.

http://ustaassets-beta.americaneagle.com/assets/1/15/Phys_SportMed.TennisHealth.pdf

Bone Health

For years, scientists and physicians have recommended impact or weightbearing exercises for people who want to increase bone strength and density and prevent osteoporosis. According to Wolff’s law, bones remodel in response to mechanical demands placed on them. When used and “loaded,” more bone is laid down, and the “stressed” bone gets stronger.31 Tennis places bone-building dynamic stresses on the body, with a positive impact on skeletal health and overall durability. In general, the body adapts to bouts of mechanical overload by getting stronger. This adaptation is not only true of bones but is also seen in muscles, tendons, and ligaments.31 Optimal skeletal health necessitates movement and loading, and “if you don’t use it, you lose it.” As exercise physiologist Thomas Cureton once said, “the human body is the only machine that breaks down when not used.” Experts usually recommend weight training, running, jogging, or even walking to build bones; however, when it comes to an activity that creates repetitive impact with the ground and impact when striking the ball, nothing beats tennis. Bone development for children is critical, and bone growth and maintenance for seniors is equally important. Pluim et al1 analyzed 22 independent studies documenting the positive impact of tennis on bone health and bone density. Tennis players consistently had greater bone density in their dominant arm and better bone density in the hip and lumbar spine compared with age-matched controls. Interestingly, bone mineral content and bone density were greater in those who took up tennis at earlier ages. This underscores the importance of bone-building activities like tennis in children and teenagers, especially young females, who reach peak bone mass in their late 20s. The more bone that is “banked” early, the less vulnerable an individual will be, as expected skeletal losses occur in middle age and older. The key to a healthy adult skeleton begins in youth with proper exercise and nutrition. T hese are the critical bone-building years. Researchers also agree that tennis, 3 times per week, supports the exercise recommendations of the ACSM regarding physical activity and bone health, both for the development of bone minerals in children and adolescents and the preservation of bone health during adulthood.32 In the ACSM position statement on physical activity and bone health, the authors specifically cite tennis as a bone-building option. Using tennis players as the experimental group and comparing them with sedentary people of the same age, Pirnay et al33 clearly demonstrated that there was a positive correlation between the tennis players and bone mineralization. In another study on this topic, the bone mineral content of athletes (tennis players) was significantly greater than that of non-athletes, but did not differ among the sports. Therefore, tennis contributes to bone mineral density.34 When one considers the bonebuilding potential of tennis with its ability to improve balance, coordination, and agility, tennis becomes an attractive preventive strategy for the commons falls and/or fracture problems encountered in adult and elderly populations. Again, starting early, before higher level of fall risk becomes a contraindication to tennis, is the key.

Brought to you by the USTA and USPTA. Like I stated.. maybe great for bone health.. JOINT HEALTH..????
 
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boramiNYC

Hall of Fame
I am 57 years old and have been playing tennis for 47 years about 3-5 times a week and still have very good joint health. I also played basketball, hockey, soccer, baseball and football during those years. Still have all my joints and playing 4.0 plus tennis. Common sense has been my guide. Weight management, lots of R.I.C.E., listening to my body and not doing anything stupid. When you hit my age and are still playing and have all your joints working.. then we can chat. I think the study is interesting.. not complete and not very well done.. as usual..

It's great you've been able to stay so active. And you say all your joints are working but what do you mean by that?

Nobody is presenting the study as all encompassing in its scope. But if you understand the scope of the study there are valid conclusions that can be made. It's healthy to be skeptical about many things but the hard part is knowing when not to.
 

boramiNYC

Hall of Fame
Brought to you by the USTA and USPTA. Like I stated.. maybe great for bone health.. JOINT HEALTH..????

No it's an article published in a medical journal called 'the physician and sportsmedicine'. The author is an avid tennis fan and it's possible the USTA could have been involved. He is one of the best known orthopedic surgeon in the country. I would think he would know a thing or more about joint health than most. He would not risk his reputation among other physicians by exaggerating or fabricating things out of nowhere. He presented his references.

If you want to trust your own experience go ahead but I find the article very illuminating about tennis and health.
 

SteveI

Legend
No it's an article published in a medical journal called 'the physician and sportsmedicine'. The author is an avid tennis fan and it's possible the USTA could have been involved. He is one of the best known orthopedic surgeon in the country. I would think he would know a thing or more about joint health than most. He would not risk his reputation among other physicians by exaggerating or fabricating things out of nowhere. He presented his references.

If you want to trust your own experience go ahead but I find the article very illuminating about tennis and health.

Thanks for your insights. In general, tennis is not good for your joints, nor is Basketball or Volleyball. Any court sport is not going to help your joint health. It is clear that many professional tennis players need hip and knee replacements at a very early age. Tennis is one of worst. I am pretty such Billie Jean King has both knees replaced. Jimmy Conners.. knees and hips.

While high impact exercises might be great for bone health, they can't be good for joints, connective tissues and the things that allow them to work. Tennis and joint problems are just a fact.. plain and simple.

Darren Cahill had 11 knee surgeries and just had a knee replacement. He is 48 and had to retire at 29..correct?
 
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Spin Doctor

Professional
If high impact exercise is so great for your joints then how come every runner I know is dealing with some kind of soft tissue injury - achilles tendonitis, IT band tightness, plantar fasciitis, sore knees, sore ankles, shinsplints etc..A lot of older guys I know no longer run due to arthritic ankles and bad knees. And running is a purely linear sport. Throw in lunging and twisting etc of tennis or other sports and it's even worse. Most older tennis players who have played to any extent usually have a shoulder or hip issue.

As SteveI says, check back when you're over 45 and let us know how your joints are holding up.
 

Spin Doctor

Professional
I agree that your joints need "exercise". I'm just don't think that high impact exercise is the best way to do that. I suspect weight training for bone/muscle strength and low impact sports like walking, cycling and swimming are probably better at maintaining joint health.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
If high impact exercise is so great for your joints then how come every runner I know is dealing with some kind of soft tissue injury - achilles tendonitis, IT band tightness, plantar fasciitis, sore knees, sore ankles, shinsplints etc..

As SteveI says, check back when you're over 45 and let us know how your joints are holding up.

A lot depends on having good running form and the right shoes. I've been running for years with literally no problems. I was watching runners out my hotel window last weekend and was again reminded of the poor form most people have when running and why they get injured.

I agree that your joints need "exercise". I'm just don't think that high impact exercise is the best way to do that. I suspect weight training for bone/muscle strength and low impact sports like walking, cycling and swimming are probably better at maintaining joint health.

Given the fact that most people will not be using proper form when exercising, as a practical matter, this is good advice. You'll get what you need for health purposes from walking and drastically reduce the risk of injury.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
A lot depends on having good running form and the right shoes. I've been running for years with literally no problems. I was watching runners out my hotel window last weekend and was again reminded of the poor form most people have when running and why they get injured.



Given the fact that most people will not be using proper form when exercising, as a practical matter, this is good advice. You'll get what you need for health purposes from walking and drastically reduce the risk of injury.

How bout walking in a pool?
 

SteveI

Legend
I agree that your joints need "exercise". I'm just don't think that high impact exercise is the best way to do that. I suspect weight training for bone/muscle strength and low impact sports like walking, cycling and swimming are probably better at maintaining joint health.

I walk 4-5 miles a day (5 days a week) and in the winter months cycle indoors. My joints get exercise to be sure. I walk following the techniques described in the book "CHI Walking" by Danny Dreyer. I also used weight training for trying to maintain bone and muscle strength. I do a combination of these and include interval training using a stationary bike. I am on the court many hours coaching, teaching and playing (doubles only now) and trying my best to get rest and do R.I.C.E. I get more stiffness from not training....you have to keep moving you just have to be smart when you hit a certain age. In my case it was 50...
 

boramiNYC

Hall of Fame
A lot depends on having good running form and the right shoes. I've been running for years with literally no problems. I was watching runners out my hotel window last weekend and was again reminded of the poor form most people have when running and why they get injured.



Given the fact that most people will not be using proper form when exercising, as a practical matter, this is good advice. You'll get what you need for health purposes from walking and drastically reduce the risk of injury.

I agree the importance and significance of the form in any activity, and think it's underestimated by many. I'll go one step further about the form. You can even improve your walking form if you care.

Also the pace of walking makes difference. A fast paced walking is much better than leisurely paced normal walking.

Walking is great exercise but not all walking is the same.
 

SteveI

Legend
I agree the importance and significance of the form in any activity, and think it's underestimated by many. I'll go one step further about the form. You can even improve your walking form if you care.

Also the pace of walking makes difference. A fast paced walking is much better than leisurely paced normal walking.

Walking is great exercise but not all walking is the same.

Yes,, not all walking is the same. I like to get up to about 4 to 4.5 miles an hour. Also.. great technique from this book: "CHI Walking" by Danny Dreyer. It also helps to have a very large lawn to mow..with a push mower.

http://www.chiwalking.com/
 
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WildVolley

Legend
Will jumping in the deep end of a pool work? Jumping off the bottom up

No. It won't work because the water basically eliminates the g-forces, unless you are belly flopping off of the high dive. Swimming, while good exercise doesn't do much for your skeletal structure.

The interesting thing about the jumping is that heroic measures aren't necessary. Doing something like 10 or twenty jumps off of an 18" box or ledge onto a hard surface is enough stress to get your body to add more density to the bones.

Genetics may play a roll, but I know a lot of guys over the age of 50 who would have no difficulty of doing that and wouldn't be putting themselves at risk.

If you're out of shape, I think the very best thing is to get out and walk daily for a half-hour or more. Once you get a small level of fitness, then you can start adding more intense and potentially risky exercises.
 
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