Why is Djokovic not as popular as Nadal? Federer...

sam_p

Professional
There is so much 'hatred' on these forums its sickening. Sometimes it's hard to believe this is a forum for tennis fans.

I'm a Roger man myself, but I love all the top guys. Nadal is my second favourite player because he rules. You can't argue with that. There are no players that I dislike. I wasn't a fan of Murray when he was a bratty little teen well into his 20's but he's grown up now.

The hatred really needs to stop. You can't call yourself a tennis fan and hate either Federer, Nadal or Djokivic. These guys are arguably playing the best tennis that has ever been playing and we hate it? Ridiculous.

And it's only a few people. Names like Chico and Dark Knight come to mind, but really it's a small handful of bitter people.

Quoted for truth
 

FreeBird

Legend
It's marketing. It has nothing to with Novak, really. He seems like a good dude and should be popular.

It's just that Nadal and Federer have been so dominant for so long, sponsors have marketed them through the roof with shoes, racquets, clothes, they made a huge deal out of the rivalry (understandably), and stuff like that. Djokovic is relatively new to the picture, he's only been dominant for about 3 years now..And with 2 marketing behemoths in the picture already, of course Novak isn't going to get the shine that Nadal and Federer did get and still get.

The ATP isn't like the NBA where they're always looking for new guys to put the spotlight on. In the NBA you have Kobe, Lebron, Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, James Harden, Kyrie Irving, Carmelo, etc. And that's because they're stars on their respective teams and there's 30 teams. But tennis is an individual sport, so naturall the only guys that are going to be marketed like crazy are the truly elite guys. And since we've had 2 dominant players for a decade now, they've gotten the bulk of attention. Novak is dominant, but he did it a bit too late to reach their level of popularity.

Nothing wrong with Novak, he was just late to the party.

Good post, Crose. I agreee with every single point. Djokovic will never reach that level of popularity unless he has 4-5 more 'dominant' years which is highly unlikely.
 
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Start da Game

Hall of Fame
djokovic seeks attention......nadal and federer grab attention......that is the difference......

see there are players with less achievements who were more popular than djokovic......safin for example......del potro another example, people love him almost everywhere......

djokovic just tries too hard to highlight himself it is so obvious......he should know that the spotlight should come to him, not him running behind it......
 
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monfed

Guest
djokovic seeks attention......nadal and federer grab attention......that is the difference......

see there are players with less achievements who were more popular than djokovic......safin for example......del potro another example, people love him almost everywhere......

djokovic just tries too hard to highlight himself it is so obvious......he should know that the spotlight should come to him, not him running behind it......

Nadal grabs attention for the wrong reasons, there's that difference too.
 

mandy01

G.O.A.T.
Nadal grabs attention for the wrong reasons, there's that difference too.

Yes. Some Nadal fans claim they love Nadal because he's a REBEL of sorts against the tennis establishment. This is BS. Rebellion is justified ONLY and only when it is backed by reason. When there are serious mis-dealings or when the given establishment has legitimate faults to which a solution is possible.
Nadal doesn't present solutions that will bring any constructive improvements in the game. He only whines and comes across as thoroughly immature everytime he does it, acting like a spoilt rich kid who MUST get his way or else he'll break rules.
That's not called being a rebel. Unfortunately in today's world though, it's what goes. I'm inclined to draw certain Foreign Policy analogies here but I'll refrain because it'll go off-topic. :lol:
 
djokovic seeks attention......nadal and federer grab attention......that is the difference......

see there are players with less achievements who were more popular than djokovic......safin for example......del potro another example, people love him almost everywhere......

djokovic just tries too hard to highlight himself it is so obvious......he should know that the spotlight should come to him, not him running behind it......

Nadal grabs the attention of many Fed Fanatics because they can not stand Rafa beating their guy. Making Feddy cry brings tears to their eyes as well, with Rafa beating Fed over and over......... But I agree with Crosse. Djoker was just late going to the party.
 
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monfed

Guest
Yes. Some Nadal fans claim they love Nadal because he's a REBEL of sorts against the tennis establishment. This is BS. Rebellion is justified ONLY and only when it is backed by reason. When there are serious mis-dealings or when the given establishment has legitimate faults to which a solution is possible.
Nadal doesn't present solutions that will bring any constructive improvements in the game. He only whines and comes across as thoroughly immature everytime he does it, acting like a spoilt rich kid who MUST get his way or else he'll break rules.
That's not called being a rebel. Unfortunately in today's world though, it's what goes. I'm inclined to draw certain Foreign Policy analogies here but I'll refrain because it'll go off-topic. :lol:

I see your point but I beg to differ. I think Ralph is rebelling for playing against the rules. :lol:
 
Yes. Some Nadal fans claim they love Nadal because he's a REBEL of sorts against the tennis establishment. This is BS. Rebellion is justified ONLY and only when it is backed by reason. When there are serious mis-dealings or when the given establishment has legitimate faults to which a solution is possible.
Nadal doesn't present solutions that will bring any constructive improvements in the game. He only whines and comes across as thoroughly immature everytime he does it, acting like a spoilt rich kid who MUST get his way or else he'll break rules.
That's not called being a rebel. Unfortunately in today's world though, it's what goes. I'm inclined to draw certain Foreign Policy analogies here but I'll refrain because it'll go off-topic. :lol:

You seem to have confused Gulbis with Nadal. Nadal is one of the most mature and responsible people on the ATP tour regardless of age.
 

MachiA.

Banned
"Some of my co-workers are from Bosnia,they hate Djokovic.
I didnt know this but some of the gestures he does is very offensive to them"
Đoković is Christian, and after big wins he crossing himself. Your co-workers are Muslims.

Thanks this was a good laugh.:)
Offended by Christian symbolic showed by Serbians.

Makes you wonder who get started the conflict on the Balkan.

KR
 

BeGreat

Rookie
i think he's got the bes tpersonality on tour. he's self-effacing. sometimes, he can be childish (like point to the frame of his racket when federer hit a winner off of his frame). but, whether he's up 6-3 5-2, or down 5-7, 4-4, he's quick to congratulate his opponenet on a good shot.

he's also very gracious after defeats. i've never seen him give a backhanded compliment like federer does.

i think the reason he isn't as liked as nadal or federer is because the market is saturated. people can like federer OR nadal. and that binary setup is all people can handle. a third contender is too much. people don't have time to pay attention.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
...seems to be the most popular tennis player in the world. Followed by Nadal. They're known even by people who don't watch tennis.

Fed's Facebook has 13.4 million fans

Nadal's FB page has 12.1 million fans

Djokovic Facebook page has 3.4 million fans

Why not much love for the hardworking Serb? He tries so hard to be liked. He imitates other tennis players, wears a Afro wig and dances on court. So why isn't he popular like Nadal or Federer?

Simply because Rafa and Roger don't try too hard to be liked, don't imitate other tennis players, don't wear an Afro wig and don't dance on court.
 

tennis4jags

Semi-Pro
Seles is a Serb and she is one of the most popular players ever.

Lots of reasons. Boring game, bad and annoying personality, annoying family.

Exactly, Personally I like his defence, never give-up but not his screming style, celebration, that shows he is the only man can win others are all zero.

Also, his team is completely annoying and his girl friend what stupid attitude.. completely disgusting:evil:
 

Backspin1183

Talk Tennis Guru
Exactly, Personally I like his defence, never give-up but not his screming style, celebration, that shows he is the only man can win others are all zero.

Also, his team is completely annoying and his girl friend what stupid attitude.. completely disgusting:evil:

You may be on to something here. Nadal was already highly popular even before winning his first Wimbledon and #1 ranking. Djokovic has already achieved more than Nadal did before 2008 but isn't as popular as the Spaniard was then.
 

5555

Hall of Fame
Simply because Rafa and Roger don't try too hard to be liked, don't imitate other tennis players, don't wear an Afro wig and don't dance on court.

Does Wawrinka try too hard to be liked, imitate other tennis players, wear Afro wig and dance on court? If not, why he is not more popular than Djokovic?
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Does Wawrinka try too hard to be liked, imitate other tennis players, wear Afro wig and dance on court? If not, why he is not more popular than Djokovic?

Wawrinka ??
Low standard for a guy with 6 slams.


And who actually wear a wig and does the crip dance ?
 

5555

Hall of Fame
Wawrinka ??
Low standard for a guy with 6 slams.


And who actually wear a wig and does the crip dance ?

Do you agree with clayqueen that the reason Djokovic is less popular than Federer and Nadal is because Novak tries too hard to be liked, imitates other tennis players, wear Afro wig and dance on court?
 

Bender

G.O.A.T.
don't get me started on his booze and gambling campaigns :mad:
Well Rafa hasn't yet picked up an alcohol and gambling addiction, and probably is one of the few people who make money from that industry, so I'd say he's actually pretty correct as far as you're concerned...
 

Drob

Hall of Fame
The Time Is Now

Fed and Nadal have been in tennis circuit and started wining slams almost 10 years back and on regular basis.

When did Djoko even started Winning regularly.... just 2 years back(since 2011). Give him time. Once Fed retires, his time will come!


The time is now. Novak is 6-6 in Major finals (nearly all of the all-time greats have winning records, if only barely, Lendl being an exception) 4 of his 6 title are at the increasingly prestigious but still-number-four Australian. This season he desperately needs to either (a) win at Roland Garros to achieve the career grand slam, or, at least (b) win Wimbledon, the crown jewel of tennis, if he is to maintain a course that might eventually put him in the Top 10 all-time. He is 26-years old, so, unless he is unusual, he probably has the potential for three big seasons left, including the current one. I say this because the brutal way he pushes his body on the court, I see him "ageing early." Meantime, new players are threatening and old foes lurk, to say nothing of his equal rival, Rafa Nadal. Wawrinka could win another Major, possibly at the Porte d' Auteuil; del Potro, if he can shake his chronic wrist problem for just a four-to-six month window could gain the momentum to take a Major; Murray is the same age as Djoker and could re-find his commitment; Ferrer has an outside shot at the French this year; Federer an outside shot at Wimbledon and has beaten Djokovich lately. Novak should never have lost that U.S. Open final to Murray. He is letting opportunities slip by that could mean several ranking spots in historical terms.
 

kiki

Banned
Because there is one player more boring than Federer; Nadal.

And there is only one player more boring than Nadal; Djokovic
 

BeGreat

Rookie
he's extremely popular. he has the best personality out there. however, he's competing against fed and nadal for popularity.
 

bullfan

Legend
he's extremely popular. he has the best personality out there. however, he's competing against fed and nadal for popularity.

Novak just got the raw end of the stick, coming from a small country, and being number 3 behind a hugely popular Federer Nadal rivalry. The lion share of the fans were already taken up by either Fed or Nadal. Left nothing for Novak.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Bcoz novak is a great guy.... and He is real person... unlike rafa (who fakes humbleness , even yest just when kie got injured rafa was celebratin shamelessly and soo was his spanish people...
He is bad sportman..
and roger is even worse ..he is such arrogant person... Apart from tennis he just has no personality...
Novak is real ..he laughs ,jokes , cries , yell at himself ,an yell at crowd ( madrid an US ) and is entertaining ..
and Btw world is racist ...bitter truth... :)
 

un6a

Semi-Pro
...seems to be the most popular tennis player in the world. Followed by Nadal. They're known even by people who don't watch tennis.

Fed's Facebook has 13.4 million fans

Nadal's FB page has 12.1 million fans

Djokovic Facebook page has 3.4 million fans

Why not much love for the hardworking Serb? He tries so hard to be liked. He imitates other tennis players, wears a Afro wig and dances on court. So why isn't he popular like Nadal or Federer?

It is very simple. 6 GS < 17 GS, 13 GS. This is how it works, most successfull = most popular. Novak gaining more and more fans every time he wins something big , but he is still behind Fed and Nadal.
 
It is very simple. 6 GS < 17 GS, 13 GS. This is how it works, most successfull = most popular. Novak gaining more and more fans every time he wins something big , but he is still behind Fed and Nadal.

nadal was a big Superstar right away when he came into the Scene (certainly after his second RG title).
 

7zero

Semi-Pro
People say culture has nothing to do with it BUT I believe there is prejudice in the western media against Novak because he's EASTERN EUROPEAN. People insist xenophobia doesn't exist but I think those people don't live in the real world. Xenophobia is very real and it is still a problem in tennis. The media prefer their tennis champions to be WESTERN.

this can be the case, but maybe more in terms of temperament than political divide. Easterners are more temperament showing emotions (positive or negative) than westerners. If Nadal can fist pumping winning over poor Nishikori and it is Ok I do not see what is the problem if Nole is fist chesting after winner. People judge by image so maybe he is not as handsome as the two. I am not expert on these players, but I saw Djokovic aplauding to opponent beutiful shots more often than those two - this is not what arogant man do. So for me he is normal guy, not a robot like: pull the shorts out of ars- stare across the net like he has eaten your lunch-bump the ball-nose-right side hair- nose- left side hair- bump ball three times - serve.. :)
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
He's not been around so much, he probably didn't endear too many people to him in 09-10 with retirements and declining play. Obviously he's had issues with the New York crowd before as well.

He's just not on the level of Nadal and Federer who have been figures in the sport for a decade. He's still a strong #3 for male tennis players in terms of popularity so nothing to be ashamed of.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
...seems to be the most popular tennis player in the world. Followed by Nadal. They're known even by people who don't watch tennis.

Fed's Facebook has 13.4 million fans

Nadal's FB page has 12.1 million fans

Djokovic Facebook page has 3.4 million fans

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Facebook & Twitter combined (currently)
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