It seems at the time a majority of the analysts, media, fans and sports writers had fed as the favourite for the final. Novak was written off due to his low conversion in slam finals from 2012 - 2013. Many were suggesting that Nole was a choker and that Fed would routine him in three sets just as he did in wimbledon 2012 when he beat nole in four. The whole world was against Nole, everyone thought that Nole was the by product of Hewitt, Saffin and Murray in the sense that he would not fight for the title. Why was Nole written off? Furthermore, when Nole beat Fed he still did not get the respect from the crowd, when Nole won in the fifth it felt like there was a funeral at the all england club. People should remember that Fed had a relatively easy path to the final by dropping only one set, he had all the advantages over Nole.
Why was Nole underestimated in the Wimbledon 2014 final vs Fed?
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MatsPhilander
Legend
I always thought Fed was the total underdog-especially after Stan had bossed him around for a set & a bit in the quarters.
MatsPhilander
Legend
Say what? One third round appearance at Wimbledon vs 2 titles, a runner up, & 2 semis this decade? What planet are these people living on?
Chico
Banned
It was a common theme here during Wimbledon 2013. I was still new here and quite in shock.
I just think that people do not believe that Nole is a fighter, Fed must of thought this also. He probably thought that if he played as he did throughout the tournament this would be enough for Nole but he made a bad mistake. He did not think that Nole would fight for it, roger had the crowd, media, tennis writers, analysts and sports fans on his side whereas Nole had himself and himself only. When fed lost his age came in question, Nole beat an old man bla bla bla..that old man done so well he only dropped one set on his march to the final and routined players like wawrinka and raonic with ease. The mind baffles sometimes in people's logic and their hate on various players.
MatsPhilander
Legend
How can anybody question Novak's fighting qualities?
uliks
Banned
Soul_Evisceration
Hall of Fame
Well first of all since you've only been watching tennis the last few months or so, you should know that:
1) Federer previously defeated Djokovic @ Wimbledon 2012
2) Federer is a 7 time Wimbledon Champion which it should not be disregarded
3) Djokovic's worst surface
4) Djokovic at that point had a decent year while Federer had a good one
It was to no surprise that Federer was the slight favorite.
1) Federer previously defeated Djokovic @ Wimbledon 2012
2) Federer is a 7 time Wimbledon Champion which it should not be disregarded
3) Djokovic's worst surface
4) Djokovic at that point had a decent year while Federer had a good one
It was to no surprise that Federer was the slight favorite.
Omega_7000
Legend
This. Plus nobody proclaimed Federer to be hands down favorite. It was always going to be close..................which it was.
Noelan
Legend
Novak reached final 2013 at his worst surface
, while Federer lost to Stakhovsky in R2Also won 3 masters , QF AO , F RG and had a decent year, Federer won his last masters 2012 , SF AO, QF RG, won Halle on grass against mighty Falla in it, but he had a good one. My god, you federerfanboys are really something special
Btw @uliks I know OP of that thread- one of rabid Novak heters from MTF ,
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
I was surprised to even see Fed make it to the final to start with, and even more surprised to see Djokovic NOT close it out in four, as he should have.
Fed the 'favourite'? After losing to Stakovsky in R2 the year before? Sorry. It was never on my mind.
Fed the 'favourite'? After losing to Stakovsky in R2 the year before? Sorry. It was never on my mind.
BringBackSV
Hall of Fame
Because Novak doesn't look good on grass, relatively speaking.
MatsPhilander
Legend
I was surprised to even see Fed make it to the final to start with, and even more surprised to see Djokovic NOT close it out in four, as he should have.
Fed the 'favourite'? After losing to Stakovsky in R2 the year before? Sorry. It was never on my mind.
Fed got about as easy a first week draw as you could hope for to ease him in for the business end of the tournament. Novak had some really tricky customers to get by.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Basically because Federer was (and is) considered the Wimbledon GOAT, was unbeaten in Wimbledon finals, except against peak Nadal in '08, and was already 1-0 v Djokovic at Wimbledon having beaten him in the semis only 2 years earlier en route to winning a 7th title.
However, the 2014 final proved an abject lesson to those who like to underestimate Novak. With enough determination, and a bit of luck, he has proved himself at all major venues with the exception, so far, of Roland Garros and I have a strong feeling that that one is going to finally fall into his lap sooner rather than later.
However, the 2014 final proved an abject lesson to those who like to underestimate Novak. With enough determination, and a bit of luck, he has proved himself at all major venues with the exception, so far, of Roland Garros and I have a strong feeling that that one is going to finally fall into his lap sooner rather than later.
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
How often did it not happen that a so-called 'easy' draw in fact turned out to be a rather difficult one in reality, or vice-versa?
Fact is, Fed was 32 at that time (how many 32-year olds, on the verge of becoming 33, did actually manage to Wimbledon in the open era?), lost to a nobody the year before (albeit a nobody playing extremely well), so I cannot see how Fed was to be called out to be the favourite in this final match.
In stead of feeling sad about Fed losing that final, I rather choose to feel happy about him making that final at all. In addition to this, I congratulate Djokovic for winning the title that year.
I don't see any problem, I don't see any 'underestimation' of Djokovic either.
Djokovic deservedly won that title. It was merely due to himself that it went to five. Fed himself said as much himself, as he said he was rather surprised to see it go to five.
The outcome of this final was N.I.D. imho, and if indeed certain pundits and/or other PR-suckers felt pressed to proclaim the opposite, I can only ask *why* - I guess for apparent PR purposes... the bane of current sports 'journalism'.
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Povl Carstensen
Legend
Turning out to be sort of a non-thread.
TheMusicLover
G.O.A.T.
BringBackSV
Hall of Fame
Still expected him to win...
MatsPhilander
Legend
DerekNoleFam1
Hall of Fame
Expected a fairly routine win from Novak, althoug that did not go to plan.
He was still favourtie with the bookies at the start of the match, so was not that underestimated.
Only saw it from late in the 3rd Set (due to ungodly time zone -was in Hawaii at the time), but he probably should have won it in 4.
He was still favourtie with the bookies at the start of the match, so was not that underestimated.
Only saw it from late in the 3rd Set (due to ungodly time zone -was in Hawaii at the time), but he probably should have won it in 4.
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
I didn't really have a favourite. But I liked Feds chances for all and more reasons you said in your OP. (You partly answered your own question there) When Fed won the first set in the tie break though, my confidence for Fed shot right up! :lol:
Dedans Penthouse
Legend
Zain786 said:
Well after seeing Djoko going through the motions and offering nothing more than token resistance during the Andy Murray Wimbledon Coronation of 2013 one could understand why.
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Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
Yes even I thought Federer was going to win, because of how djokovic was playing the entire tournament. He was solid but not good enough to beat Federer. I changed my mind after the first couple of games after I saw how crisp he was hitting the ball.
RoyalFederer
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Whatever underestimation, which wasnt any in my opinion, came from the fact that Fed is a fan favorite in 100% of the matches, simply because of the reputation that he has built up. The fact that he has 7 wimbeldons also gives him a decent chance against anyone on grass. Don't be so baffled, you're embarrassing yourself.
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
Even though Federer won the first set, for me you could tell djokovic was playing better and was going to come back.
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