Wide shoes for a wide midfoot as well as toebox?

[Power Player]

Mizuno are very roomy and could do the trick but the stability and cushion is the worst I have had, unfortunately.

 

[pete101]

Because you said "slightly" I would give the shoe time to break in and your foot time to get used to the snug hot spot you described. If it is truly uncomfortable don't push it, but if you can break it in a few hours you might be fine.

Off the shelf I would try PowerStep, SuperFeet (Green was my go-to for a long time - they offer it in a wide fit as well), or Move Insoles, you will just need to find a store that carries them or get a few sizes and return the ones that don't fit, since your foot is so wide that the sizing guide will likely put you in too small of a model.

I would let the upper do the wrapping, not the insole. The insole should just provide the base for your foot so that it's not hanging over the edge of the midsole with no support and some rigidity to keep the shoe from digging into the sole of your foot.

I speculate also what is pinching is because my left foot is so wide when i step the insole goes down and the upper where it meets the insole horizontally is pinching the side of my foot underneath as i have had this in other shoes i cant wear anymore like air max 97s and air max deluxes

They are much worse than these asics gel res 9 wides but similar sort of feel and when driving i feel the dynawall is pressing on medial side of my foot

 

[pete101]

Because you said "slightly" I would give the shoe time to break in and your foot time to get used to the snug hot spot you described. If it is truly uncomfortable don't push it, but if you can break it in a few hours you might be fine.

Off the shelf I would try PowerStep, SuperFeet (Green was my go-to for a long time - they offer it in a wide fit as well), or Move Insoles, you will just need to find a store that carries them or get a few sizes and return the ones that don't fit, since your foot is so wide that the sizing guide will likely put you in too small of a model.

I would let the upper do the wrapping, not the insole. The insole should just provide the base for your foot so that it's not hanging over the edge of the midsole with no support and some rigidity to keep the shoe from digging into the sole of your foot.

Do you have any idea what is causing me this discomfort and pinching sensation underneath on the side?

I speculate it is because my foot is so wide it isnt fully on the insole cushion it is spilling over the sides into the upper and when i step down the insole sinks and that ridge where the upper and insole meet at the bottom is harder due to the dynawall causing the pinching sensation.

I have it in other shoes bear in mind as mentioned just never fully figured out what it was.

Ones that do not have it as bad ie air max 95s 1 size too big i still have some remnants when walking as the side of my foot underneath presses on the ridge between the upper and insole.

Is me wrapping memory foam insole around the sides of my foot in my sock going to cause issues?

 

[ghostblue]

Do you have any idea what is causing me this discomfort and pinching sensation underneath on the side?

I speculate it is because my foot is so wide it isnt fully on the insole cushion it is spilling over the sides into the upper and when i step down the insole sinks and that ridge where the upper and insole meet at the bottom is harder due to the dynawall causing the pinching sensation.
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Is me wrapping memory foam insole around the sides of my foot in my sock going to cause issues?

My guess is the same as yours: the shoe is too rigid on the sides which is by design since it is meant to be a very stable shoe, but it isn't wide enough for you and when you add the rigidity you have the discomfort you're experiencing.

I don't think your foam in sock strategy would cause issues so long as it fits in the shoe, but I'm not a medical professional. I'm only working anecdotally from my own experience. To be clear all of my knowledge about insoles and orthotics is because my left foot has a fallen arch and I've been cramming my feet into soccer cleats that are a half size too small all my life in order to get the touch on top the way I wanted. I actually have a medium to narrow midfoot.

 

[pete101]

Because you said "slightly" I would give the shoe time to break in and your foot time to get used to the snug hot spot you described. If it is truly uncomfortable don't push it, but if you can break it in a few hours you might be fine.

Off the shelf I would try PowerStep, SuperFeet (Green was my go-to for a long time - they offer it in a wide fit as well), or Move Insoles, you will just need to find a store that carries them or get a few sizes and return the ones that don't fit, since your foot is so wide that the sizing guide will likely put you in too small of a model.

I would let the upper do the wrapping, not the insole. The insole should just provide the base for your foot so that it's not hanging over the edge of the midsole with no support and some rigidity to keep the shoe from digging into the sole of your foot.

So i tried the memory foam on the side of my foot to see if it helps and it does a bit but i still get a pinching sensation and you can see the outline ridge of where the upper meets the insole and the dynawall

What i dont get is why is it still pinching despite me wrapping memory foam around the medial side of my foot

The inners of the shoe still seem to pinch somehow meaning my foot is so wide the force against the sides pushes it against the ridge causing pain?

You would think if the upper stretches there would be more give but given i spilling over the sides forced into the insole/upper ridge

I can honestly understand what is happening or how to fix this i think i cant except risking going half a size up next time my friend goes abroad and risk both a too long shoe and narrow side but less lol
Like it doesnt make sense why it should still be hurting i have memory foam wrapped around the side of my foot it shouldnt be anything but a snug fit and the pain is from pinching not actual volume tightness

For comparison the right foot is okish with the orthotic insole and isnt spilling over the sides can feel it touching the ridge between insole and upper but not wide enough it is pinching

 

[pete101]

My guess is the same as yours: the shoe is too rigid on the sides which is by design since it is meant to be a very stable shoe, but it isn't wide enough for you and when you add the rigidity you have the discomfort you're experiencing.

I don't think your foam in sock strategy would cause issues so long as it fits in the shoe, but I'm not a medical professional. I'm only working anecdotally from my own experience. To be clear all of my knowledge about insoles and orthotics is because my left foot has a fallen arch and I've been cramming my feet into soccer cleats that are a half size too small all my life in order to get the touch on top the way I wanted. I actually have a medium to narrow midfoot.

When i tried 2 different lengths of memory foam the full length version seems to cause more issues around the midfoot cos the dynawall is very narrow there compounding the problems

But strangelt using half length memory foam for just the forefoot part of the left medial side is more uncomfortable inexpicably

All i am judging it by is the outline on the memory foam showcasing the pinching and i have established the gap between where the orthotic insole ends on the side meets the upper inside there is a gap which is the ridge which causes all the pain.

Would the solution be a wider insole that goes up to the upper and curls up a bit so semi wraps around the side of my foot?

Eliminating that gap between insole and upper would most likely fix things but again you would think the memory foam in the sock would do the same thing allbeit does not eliminate the ridge which is causing the pain?

I may need to try your idea of a very wide insole to cover the walls of the upper or at least cover the exposed ridge

 

[pete101]

My guess is the same as yours: the shoe is too rigid on the sides which is by design since it is meant to be a very stable shoe, but it isn't wide enough for you and when you add the rigidity you have the discomfort you're experiencing.

I don't think your foam in sock strategy would cause issues so long as it fits in the shoe, but I'm not a medical professional. I'm only working anecdotally from my own experience. To be clear all of my knowledge about insoles and orthotics is because my left foot has a fallen arch and I've been cramming my feet into soccer cleats that are a half size too small all my life in order to get the touch on top the way I wanted. I actually have a medium to narrow midfoot.

I can literally see the outline ridge running parralel along my medial side of foot both sides this cant be good at all

And maybe half size up though better may not be enough

 

[pete101]

Yeah length is perfect for me luckily and width is bearable so I just deal with it since I really enjoy playing in the shoe. So easy on the joints with all that cushion.

Maybe the barricades will be a bit wider, I guess I will just have to go try stuff on and see. It sucks that wide options I have are either moderately cushioned or just plain unstable.

Do you not find with the cage 4's like all shoes the ridge where the insole meets the upper pinches on the sides of your foot?

I must have am extremely wide foot because all narrow shoes causes this for me i am just surprised you dont have this issue and just have a snugness issue

 

[Power Player]

Do you not find with the cage 4's like all shoes the ridge where the insole meets the upper pinches on the sides of your foot?

I must have am extremely wide foot because all narrow shoes causes this for me i am just surprised you dont have this issue and just have a snugness issue

Trust me if they were unwearable i would not wear them. But I played a season of matches in them and they were fine. Yes we all have different shaped feet which makes this tough to asses.

In your case you will need to avoid Nike altogether as the vapor cage is their widest fitting shoe by all accounts I have read. You need something super wide so I’d try the babolat sfx3 and see how that goes. It is wider than the EE new balance.

 

[pete101]

Trust me if they were unwearable i would not wear them. But I played a season of matches in them and they were fine. Yes we all have different shaped feet which makes this tough to asses.

In your case you will need to avoid Nike altogether as the vapor cage is their widest fitting shoe by all accounts I have read. You need something super wide so I’d try the babolat sfx3 and see how that goes. It is wider than the EE new balance.

Dont new balance do 4E tennis shoes also?

 

[pete101]

My guess is the same as yours: the shoe is too rigid on the sides which is by design since it is meant to be a very stable shoe, but it isn't wide enough for you and when you add the rigidity you have the discomfort you're experiencing.

I don't think your foam in sock strategy would cause issues so long as it fits in the shoe, but I'm not a medical professional. I'm only working anecdotally from my own experience. To be clear all of my knowledge about insoles and orthotics is because my left foot has a fallen arch and I've been cramming my feet into soccer cleats that are a half size too small all my life in order to get the touch on top the way I wanted. I actually have a medium to narrow midfoot.

Are any of the insoles you mentioned wide enough and flexible enough to cradle my foot and make the sides go up the wall of the uppers?

As mentioned the issue is the gap between insole and inner uppers that gap is what pinches

But getting a slightly wider insole prob wont work because when i step down the the insole will create a new ridge as my wide foot is pushing against the upper walls so the gap between them will be created causing a ridge

The only solution i think is an insole which is study enough to not allow the current ridge between the orthotic and the asics gel res 9 walls penetrate it pinching throuth but flexible enough it will bend to go up the walls of the upper.

Alternatively if i could put something to clip onto the memory foam to do the same i am just surprised that ridge is pinching through the memory foam cushion hurting my foot still as the thickness is about 5mm

 

[Power Player]

Dont new balance do 4E tennis shoes also?

Yeah they may, just tougher to track down here. sounds like you need to target 4E size for sure.

 

[pete101]

So i tried these scholl party feet gel pads women use for heels and wrapped it round the side of my foot in my sock and it seems to help a bit better than the memory foam

I dont notice any pinching (yet)

But wonder the long term implications of having shoes too narrow crushing my foot

I thought tennis players wear shoes a smaller size wouldnt they have issues too?

 

[ghostblue]

In my experience with soccer cleats ("football boots" as I believe you would say ), as long as my toes aren't crushed together and I spend time barefoot or in something wide where my foot can recover after a session, I've had no long-term issues.

I'm also pretty good about giving all my performance footwear time to break in. If something needs more time to loosen up I don't wear it for more than an hour at a time and will switch to something more comfortable while the new one is still breaking.

 

[d-quik]

the SFX is not a 4e width
i would suggest the yonex sonicage extra wide in 4e

No one's mentioned it so I will throw Mizuno into the ring. They all are very roomy everywhere.
I usually wear a wide shoe, and never had to up my size in Mizuno or Diadora.

I feel like I spill over the sides of a lot of shoes, even when sizing up. Some of the shoes mentioned here felt super tight - like the vapor cage 4. Solematch Control was still too narrow for me/pinched sides. Most comfortable shoe I've found is the lotto raptor 100. Unfortunately, with weird feet you just need to try a bunch (even if it costs $).

Babolat SFX work for me but the issue is that they are not that cushioned or stable. So for now I am using the Nike Cages that just were on sale. They are a tighter squeeze for sure but don't blister the sides of my feet enough for me to mind. I wear them for matchplay and the SFX when I am drilling on the ball machine.

Not sure what else has the cushion of the Nikes and would be a little wider. Maybe Barricades?

The manufacturer has the SpeedServe Energized for only $56 right now if you are American!

 

[dave t]

Thanks - will give them a try.

 

[1HBHfanatic]

Wilson rush pro ace, best wide shoe, and lightest

-you are not wrong!!
-it is a "wide shoe"
-and it is "lite"
-but i would not say its "the best", rubber wears out too fast!
-have you check out the kswiss ultrashot 3s
-NOT lite, in fact it is a heavy shoe!!, but that means its super-stable, wide shoe

 

[d-quik]

Thanks - will give them a try.

If you can, please share your opinions on the main thread and also include which colorway, size, and your normal size if you had to size up OR down in these. Thank you. https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/fila-speed-serve-energized.726240/

 

[TheSlicer]

-you are not wrong!!
-it is a "wide shoe"
-and it is "lite"
-but i would not say its "the best", rubber wears out too fast!
-have you check out the kswiss ultrashot 3s
-NOT lite, in fact it is a heavy shoe!!, but that means its super-stable, wide shoe

yes durability is its main downside, but thats why its almost half the price of any k swiss shoe, besides kswiss has a big sole and feels quite clumsy