Will Andy Murray come back???
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MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
For his sake I hope he has a full return and can flirt with getting back in the top 10. But to expect him to challenge Novak/Rafa is just asking to be disappointed.
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
Oh he'll be back
conjoshruk
Semi-Pro
I think so, hopefully AO 2020 or Wimby.
He's defensive skills and ROS are one of the best among active players.
He's defensive skills and ROS are one of the best among active players.
He's trying to come back for sure. Playing some doubles, with plans to come back to singles by the end of the year.
Five years ago I would have said no, impossible, players that old are on their way out even without injuries, and a serious injury is unthinkable to come back from. But Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are showing that playing world class tennis at that age is possible! And the whole cohort of old guys is doing fine. So that probably gives Murray hope.
Five years ago I would have said no, impossible, players that old are on their way out even without injuries, and a serious injury is unthinkable to come back from. But Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are showing that playing world class tennis at that age is possible! And the whole cohort of old guys is doing fine. So that probably gives Murray hope.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
That would be one of the greatest stories in the Open era if that happens. The likelihood is hovering around .000001% however.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Andy Roddick was on a podcast during Wimbledon and he was talking about a potential Murray comeback. He said that he believed Murray needs to shed 15 pounds and stop the incessant training. He thinks he's way too "muscle bound" and that such a build isn't necessary in tennis and is, in fact, deleterious. He thinks a lithe version of Andy would succeed, not the Hulk version of the last several years.
ibbi
G.O.A.T.
I'm sure he'll play again. Whether or not he makes it back to where he was is the real question, and I find that probably unlikely. He is not them, and he never was. Will a bionic hip close the gap? I'm guessing not. Would be a comeback story for the ages if he returns at the Australian Open a year after they tried so hard to retire him though 
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
I hope, and believe, that Murray will return to the tour.
However, he ain’t winning any more majors.
However, he ain’t winning any more majors.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Cripes, Murray has lost enough muscle mass as it is and Rodders wants him to lose more???
Murray himself said that he needs to get physically stronger if he is to make a successful return to singles!
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Imagine Murray winning AO on his first ever singles return
I don't think I'd come back down to earth for several months (if ever) should that glorious day ever occur!!!
Sephiroth
Hall of Fame
Beating Djokovic in the final too you'll probably take a year vacation lol
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Just the thought of him getting back to winning Slams again!!!
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
No offense to Andy, but he also has a track record of clearly not knowing what's best for him physically.Cripes, Murray has lost enough muscle mass as it is and Rodders wants him to lose more???
Murray himself said that he needs to get physically stronger if he is to make a successful return to singles!
Mainad
Bionic Poster
What makes you say that?
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Admitting that he was having hip pain years ago but continued to play through it, pushing himself harder than ever in fact. Not stopping until that Wimbledon where he couldn't even walk anymore.
Then continuing to try to comeback while avoiding surgery when he clearly couldn't handle it in 2018, up through to this year's Australian.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Borg was physically a brute and never lost a match due to conditioning and had the perfect tennis body.Cripes, Murray has lost enough muscle mass as it is and Rodders wants him to lose more???
Murray himself said that he needs to get physically stronger if he is to make a successful return to singles!
Murray bulking up his upper body (according to Roddick) was a mistake and never helped his tennis. The strain of carrying around 200 pounds of mostly muscle on a tennis court contributed to placing a strain on Andy's hip. Again, just quoting A-Rod. Borg weighed 155 pounds, so did Connors and McEnroe.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
So you think he should have had surgery earlier? It's a very difficult choice for a player to make. Most view it as the very last resort for obvious reasons and I guess that was Murray's approach too.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Murray and Roddick have the best banter
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Borg was physically a brute and never lost a match due to conditioning and had the perfect tennis body.
Murray bulking up his upper body (according to Roddick) was a mistake and never helped his tennis. The strain of carrying around 200 pounds of mostly muscle on a tennis court contributed to placing a strain on Andy's hip. Again, just quoting A-Rod. Borg weighed 155 pounds, so did Connors and McEnroe.
Well he obviously did very well with his extra muscle mass. Whether it prevented him doing even better is a moot point impossible now to prove. Whether that caused the damage to his hip is interesting but debateable. Personally I think he is the victim of some dodgy genetics (eg. he was born with a bi-partite patella which gave him chronic knee problems). Borg and Djokovic are perfect examples of players who were lucky enough to avoid any genetic weaknesses in their physiques.
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mightyrick
Legend
Borg was physically a brute and never lost a match due to conditioning and had the perfect tennis body.
Murray bulking up his upper body (according to Roddick) was a mistake and never helped his tennis. The strain of carrying around 200 pounds of mostly muscle on a tennis court contributed to placing a strain on Andy's hip. Again, just quoting A-Rod. Borg weighed 155 pounds, so did Connors and McEnroe.
Weight doesn't help at all in any kind of endurance sport which requires a highly-trained and tolerant cardiovascular base. People (especially guys) these days are very obsessed with getting "Baywatch" bodies, but all of that added weight is doing nothing but hurting the body if they do endurance sports.
I play tennis, but I am primarily a runner. Half-marathons, 10Ks, and sometimes 5Ks. On good weeks, if the heat isn't sweltering, I usually put in 30 miles per week. So not much by serious running standards... but more than most people. I weigh 168 pounds at 5'10" and that is considered heavy for serious running. I make sure that I do my best to not gain any muscle weight. So when I lift, I lift for high reps. I do not lift to increase strength. Only increased muscle endurance.
If I decide to start running marathons, I already know that to stay healthy, I would have to drop probably 5 pounds of fat and maybe 5 pounds of muscle. So get down to about 158 pounds.
It isn't rocket science. If you do something which requires thousands of footfalls over a few hours, you need to get rid of the weight if you don't want to kill your knees, ankles, and back.
Justin Side
Hall of Fame
Imagine Murray winning AO on his first ever singles return
I don't think the weak era truthers would come back down to earth for several years (if ever) should that glorious day ever occur!!!
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OhYes
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Milehigh5280
Professional
It would be awkward if he played singles at AO after they pretty much gave him a retirement ceremony this year.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
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Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
yes, he will comeback alright. but he won't be filling in any 4th spot. He will be filling in more like 50th spot....
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
he will be challenging guys like steve Johnson, john isner, and Goffin.....
He has done major surgery in the hip. Its a condition usually associated with people in their 60s, 70s and older. He will lose a lot of speed and explosiveness compared to his prime.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
That's one reason Djokovic is so much less injury-prone than Nadal despite having the same grinding physical game. He doesn't have as much weight to carry around and he's way more flexible. While Nadal is buff enough to be a UFC cage fighter, Djokovic has the perfect body for a tennis player.Borg was physically a brute and never lost a match due to conditioning and had the perfect tennis body.
Murray bulking up his upper body (according to Roddick) was a mistake and never helped his tennis. The strain of carrying around 200 pounds of mostly muscle on a tennis court contributed to placing a strain on Andy's hip. Again, just quoting A-Rod. Borg weighed 155 pounds, so did Connors and McEnroe.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Or anyone 6'1-6'2 and 170/75 pounds like Pete, Edberg and Fed. Roger has gotten heavier and more muscular in the lower legs in the last 7-8 years, so he's gone up to 180. Djoker is actually very tall historically for an elite player. Off the top of my head, maybe only Safin was taller among all #1's?
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King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Federer has always been in the 187 lb range I thought? I know he was 187 in '09.
Also I said Djokovic has the perfect body for a tennis player, not the typical body. Pete and Edberg, and Fed (and most everyone else) could only dream of moving like Djokovic does on the court.
terribleIVAN
Hall of Fame
He's coming back alright.
For about 6 months.
After which they will schedule the second hip surgery.
For about 6 months.
After which they will schedule the second hip surgery.
Lleytonstation
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HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Watch prime/peak fed movement my friend..
It was the key behind the fearhand and utter domination
Cashman
Hall of Fame
Murray has said that the plan is to make a return to singles by the end of the year. If that wasn't on track, he would have called it quits at Wimbledon. It seems pretty unlikely that he will return as a Slam contender though.
At the moment my money is on him playing 6-8 months for pretty average results, then calling it quits at Wimbledon 2020.
That said - when we say a player should retire because he's stopped winning tournaments, we tend to forget how little of their income is tied to prizemoney. Three quarters of Murray's earnings come from appearance fees and endorsements, which are only partially performance-based. Continuing to tour and riding out his current contracts to expiry will still net him millions of pounds a year - even if he is only winning a few rounds at each tournament.
At the moment my money is on him playing 6-8 months for pretty average results, then calling it quits at Wimbledon 2020.
That said - when we say a player should retire because he's stopped winning tournaments, we tend to forget how little of their income is tied to prizemoney. Three quarters of Murray's earnings come from appearance fees and endorsements, which are only partially performance-based. Continuing to tour and riding out his current contracts to expiry will still net him millions of pounds a year - even if he is only winning a few rounds at each tournament.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Wurm
Professional
I don't know that I trust any of the atp player stats. Murray's said himself that he's not even quite the full 6'2"
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
I never said he had defense like djoker..
Need I say more,FedrHetr?
None can match Nole in that department apart from 2005-08 rafa maybe.
What I said was about movement, federer movement was extremely fluid, mellifluous and efficient in all ways in his prime/peak years. Which imo was Equal, if not better than Djokovic.
And please, say Feder
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Chadalina
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He can play exo's, but after 3 matches he will have to stop for a week
