Will Soderling come back before he retires?
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He might call it a day.
PrinceMoron
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Will he come back after he retires?
Will he retire before he comes back?
Will he retire before he comes back?
Doublebounce
Professional
Unfortunately, i don't think we will see him again. It was entertaining to have him on the tour. Always gave Rafa and Fed a run for their money at the slams. Unlike some of the other players in the top 10, he actually believed he could beat them.
PrinceMoron
Legend
Had that Rosol stare / mad look too.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I think he'll come back simply to leave on his terms, experience playing once again, say goodbye
If he does well, it could lead to playing a little longer. But, I bet he comes back just to say goodbye at a couple of tournaments, then retires.
If he does well, it could lead to playing a little longer. But, I bet he comes back just to say goodbye at a couple of tournaments, then retires.
RF20Lennon
Legend
I really hope he does I actually liked watching him play. Itll be sad if he doesnt return
Doublebounce
Professional
Loved his rivalry with Nadal. Everyone knew they both hated each other yet they acted like friends.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
No he is not a better player than Murray! How many slam finals has Soderling made? Murray has more than double the number of ATP titles Soderling has and Murray is a few years younger.
As to whether Soderling will come back, I think he will but I think he is past his peak/prime and his best days are behind him.
Two French Open finals, beating Nadal in his first run and Federer in his second. I think he would have reached more slam finals if he was still around. Yes Murray has more ATP titles but as I said Soderling was a late developer.
He is far more competitive with both Federer and Nadal when they play in slams since he emerged as a top player. Although he chokes in the final just like Murray.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
The Swede has suffered damage to his thyroid and adrenal glands as a result of the illness, which world number three Roger Federer also battled at the start of 2008.
Despite having no plans to quit the sport for good just yet, he admits the nature of the illness makes it difficult for him to set a return date.
The two-time French Open finalist added: "It's difficult to say because this is not really like a regular injury. Even the doctors have trouble telling me when I can be back. The most important thing is I'm feeling better and better.
BBC
Despite having no plans to quit the sport for good just yet, he admits the nature of the illness makes it difficult for him to set a return date.
The two-time French Open finalist added: "It's difficult to say because this is not really like a regular injury. Even the doctors have trouble telling me when I can be back. The most important thing is I'm feeling better and better.
BBC
That's good to hear.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think so. Last time he reached a slam final was 2010 and he seemed to be going in the reverse direction to me before he became ill. I am sorry but I don't see him as more talented than Murray and it is not like I am a huge Murray fan, you just have to look at their results and titles won. Murray already has the better career and I think Murray will win a few slams before he is done. Who else is going to win them if Roger, Nadal and Djokovic can't? Murray is the only guy capable in the ATP right now.Soderling was never a serious slam contender imo.
Well until Soderling got mono he had as many slam finals as Murray. The matches were on his racquet too, with his 145mph serves and his 100mph ultra consistent groundstrokes.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
I agree he is a better player on clay. He has 2 clay titles and has been in 2 FO finals beating Nadal (2009) and Federer (2010) on the way. Murray has never made the final of a clay tournament.
But not on hard court or grass. He has made no USO,AO or Wimbledon finals unlike Murray. He has won just 1 Masters tournament but made no other finals. Murray has won 8 and been in the final of 2 more. In their mutual H2H, he is 2-3 v Murray. Moreover his overall H2H v the top 3 players is generally much less impressive than Murray's.
Soderling's H2H v the top 3 players:
1-16 v Federer
1-6 v Djokovic
2-6 v Nadal
Murray's H2H v the top 3 players:
9-8 v Federer
6-8 v Djokovic
5-13 v Nadal
Soderling is a late developer, total head to head is irrelevant. In slams he looks so much more dangerous than Murray against Nadal and Federer.
In addition, Murray's head to head with the top 3 looks very different when you look at the slam head to head.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
The matches were on his racquet with or against whom? He has losing records against Murray, Nadal and Federer (he is in particular Federer's bit*h.)
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
LOL! You have to be kidding. Let's ask Federer who he would rather face in a slam, Murray or Soderling.
Well here are the slam head to heads, since we're talking about who is a bigger threat to the top 3 in slams:
SODERLING:
Soderling 1 - 5 Federer
Soderling 1 - 5 Nadal
Soderling 0 - 0 Djoker
(total: Soderling 2 - 10 Djoker/Nadal/Federer)
Is any worse than?:
MURRAY:
Murray 0 - 3 Federer
Murray 2 - 6 Nadal
Murray 0 - 2 Djoker
(Total: Murray 2 - 11 Djoker/Nadal/Federer)
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cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Dude, Soderling is done and dusted and past his prime, Murray is in his prime right now. Again, let's ask Federer who he would rather face in a slam off clay, Soderling or Murray. There is no contest.
Really? You think he'd rather face Soderling, a player who has actually beaten him in a grand slam, over Murray, a player who has struggled to take a set from him?
Soderling is a power player, his prime is much longer than a retriever like Murray. I wish Murray the best but he needs to be careful, retrievers usually start breaking down physically at his age (Nadal, Borg, Chang, Wilander, Hewitt etc).
Realistically the clock is ticking on his chance to win a slam. I think if he hasn't won a slam by the time US Open 2013 is done he will never win a slam.
PeteD
Legend
Could be academic, looks like Robin hasn't posted to his own website in over a year.
http://robinsoderling.se/
http://robinsoderling.se/
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes, 100% most definitely I think Federer would rather face Soderling OFF CLAY in a slam than Murray and I don't think it is a contest at all.
But Murray is just entering his prime whereas Soderling is past his prime, power player or not. I agree that Murray needs to win a slam soon or his window will pass but if he does manage to win one of the next two slams, I think he will catch fire and win a few. Soderling in my eyes was never slam winning material and never will be.
Leelord337
Hall of Fame
he does tweet every now and then though..mostly about this super expensive swedish clothing designer named "acne" (of all things, lol) with 500 dollar jeans and 200dollar shirts, lol
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Mainad
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Of course, there is now the additional factor of Murray's recent beat down of Federer at the Olympics. I'm sure that will make Federer feel much more wary of facing him again.
Seems ironic for you to say this when it is Soderling who has struggled with injuries (in addition to his Mono) and has been off the tour for over a year now.
You may be right but it's possible he will turn out to be a late developer at winning Slams just as you say Soderling was late to get his career going. Don't forget Murray is still 3 years younger than Soderling.
Really? Even though both have won only a single set against him? In non French Open slams:
Soderling 0 -4 (1 set, 5 tie-breaks)
Murray 0 - 3 (1 set, 1 tie-break)
1 set each. But I think Federer just feels invincible against Murray. The fact that Soderling has beaten him in a slam and runs him far closer judging by the number of tie breaks he takes Fed to is enough to give him a little doubt. I'm confident he'd prefer Murray.
Murray has been in his prime for around 4 years. He was a very early developer, like most defensive retriever players, he beat Federer in 2006 and hit his prime in 2008.
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So you admit Murray has had a long prime?
I thought you said 'defensive retrievers' had a very short prime.
I wonder why you think Soderling would have a much longer prime when tall ballbashers are notoriously injury prone.
DolgoSantoro
Professional
No he'll come back after he retires 
In all seriousness I don't know, but I hope so
In all seriousness I don't know, but I hope so
batz
G.O.A.T.
Soderling was diagnosed with mono in May 2011 - some 4 months after Murray made his third slam final. but hey, don't let facts get in the way of anything - it doesn't usually stop you.
batz
G.O.A.T.
LOL - you do come away with some rubbish don't you. Murray a 'very early developer'
- he didn't play his first ATP level match until he was nearly 18! He was 21 before he made his first slam QF - some early developer.As for Fed 'feeling invincible' against Murray - does he always feel like that against guys who have betaen him NINE times?
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Typical ball-basher fandom cr@p to say: the match is always on [insert the name of myfavouriteball-basher's] racket.
I suppose When Del-Po/Soderling play Djokovic the match is always on their racket as well?
In that case, the only reason for their poor head-to-heads against him must be stupidity, because they are, for some reason, choosing to lose to Djokovic, even though it would be in the interests of financial gain and furthering their careers if they chose to beat him instead.
After all, if they actually tried to beat him, Djokovic would get triple-bagelled, no?
I suppose When Del-Po/Soderling play Djokovic the match is always on their racket as well?
In that case, the only reason for their poor head-to-heads against him must be stupidity, because they are, for some reason, choosing to lose to Djokovic, even though it would be in the interests of financial gain and furthering their careers if they chose to beat him instead.
After all, if they actually tried to beat him, Djokovic would get triple-bagelled, no?
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Off clay Murray is a better player than Soderling, I don't think anybody would question this fact. Soderling is Federer's pooch, what is it about a 16-1 h2h that you are failing to understand. So what if Soderling defeated Federer in one FO slam match in 2010? Off clay there is no question Federer would prefer to play Soderling over Murray.
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PhrygianDominant
Hall of Fame
well anyway, I also think Soderling's comeback is too tall an order considering how long it took him to climb the rankings when he was healthy. Having time off, being older, and recently very ill just exacerbates things.
Sad too, because I loved his groundstrokes. Watching him play on clay in heavy conditions was unreal. Man, what I would give to crush the ball like that....
Sad too, because I loved his groundstrokes. Watching him play on clay in heavy conditions was unreal. Man, what I would give to crush the ball like that....
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