Wilson Pro Labs: Ultra Pro (16x19) Official Thread

[RVAtennisaddict]

Debating on biting the bullet and buying either the UP or a Pro Staff 97 v13. Current frame of choice is the 360+ Prestige Pro and the Angell TC97. I was planning on weighting up the UP similar to the prestiges I have (so around 335g strung and a 325ish SW). Can anyone compare the UP to the current Prestige Pro? I am afraid this frame will lack the power/pop I am getting off the prestige right now. I imagine for control they are pretty similar and spin to me is secondary. Just afraid to end up with a noodle like the 360+ prestige mp.

So interesting. I went from the ultratour weighted to 345gm, to ultrapro 16x19 weighted to 342, to the blade v7 16x19 weighted to 340gm. All have leather base grip, tourna-overgrip, and lead between 3/9 or 2/10 to get similar swingweights (by feel).

I have really been toying we picking up a BladePro 16x19 to see where it falls between these all.

 

[Icedorb217]

So bit the bullet and picked one of these up. Okay so now I can say this is probably the best feeling racket I have ever used. Better than my Prestige's and my Angell frames. I matched the spec pretty close to my Graphene 360+ Prestige Pro, ~334g strung, no clue what the balance and SW is but the swing feels close (I'd say my UP is a bit heavier on the swing).

zipplock you were right the hits at the top of the hoop defintely have less pop than the prestige but the sweet spot feels so much larger and more forgiving that I really can't notice that much of a drop in pace. Only got 1 session in with it so far, cannot wait for the rest of the upcoming week.

 

[zipplock]

So bit the bullet and picked one of these up. Okay so now I can say this is probably the best feeling racket I have ever used. Better than my Prestige's and my Angell frames. I matched the spec pretty close to my Graphene 360+ Prestige Pro, ~334g strung, no clue what the balance and SW is but the swing feels close (I'd say my UP is a bit heavier on the swing).

zipplock you were right the hits at the top of the hoop defintely have less pop than the prestige but the sweet spot feels so much larger and more forgiving that I really can't notice that much of a drop in pace. Only got 1 session in with it so far, cannot wait for the rest of the upcoming week.

Yup. It's the best Prestige Pro made ...

 

[RVAtennisaddict]

How does this compare to v13 Prostaff - regular

 

[smithie]

How does this compare to v13 Prostaff - regular

I've not played with the latest Prostaff but in this review he compares the UP with the Prostaff
BATTLE OF THE TITANS - Wilson Pro Staff 97 V13 vs. Wilson Blade V7 vs. Wilson Clash 98 - YouTube

 

[RVAtennisaddict]

Ok, I switched back to the UltraPro. Serves better, more variety. Liking it greatly. Will see... now toying with ordering a second and retiring my blades 16x19 v7 (the most recent).

 

[Pneumated1]

Ok, I switched back to the UltraPro. Serves better, more variety. Liking it greatly. Will see... now toying with ordering a second and retiring my blades 16x19 v7 (the most recent).

It's a platform, so once you get it modded just right for you, it's an amazing frame. I've tried (and bought) others, but the UP has seen them come and go. I have a pair but have contemplated picking up a few more. It's that good.

 

[Dishiki]

I just got rid of my UP. I am fixated on the BP 18x20. Super stable, and just have more on my serves and groundies. I give up some on volleys but I can deal with that.

 

[Pneumated1]

I just got rid of my UP. I am fixated on the BP 18x20. Super stable, and just have more on my serves and groundies. I give up some on volleys but I can deal with that.

These are different tools for different types of players, imo.

 

[RVAtennisaddict]

Still loving mine, playing better and better and getting used to it. Trying to decide on the purchase of a second.

Do we know what replace grommets we can use (do they sell them, or will the blade 16/19 grommets work??)

Mine is set up:
Black Wilson leather grip, Tourna grip over, TW Tungsten tape 1.5cm x2 at 2:00 and 10:00. Volkl Cyclone Tour 16g black @50lbs.

 

[Pneumated1]

Still loving mine, playing better and better and getting used to it. Trying to decide on the purchase of a second.

Do we know what replace grommets we can use (do they sell them, or will the blade 16/19 grommets work??)

Mine is set up:
Black Wilson leather grip, Tourna grip over, TW Tungsten tape 1.5cm x2 at 2:00 and 10:00. Volkl Cyclone Tour 16g black @50lbs.

I bought extra grommet sets from Wilson. As far as I know, that's your only option.

 

[Paul Y]

Still loving mine, playing better and better and getting used to it. Trying to decide on the purchase of a second.

Do we know what replace grommets we can use (do they sell them, or will the blade 16/19 grommets work??)

Mine is set up:
Black Wilson leather grip, Tourna grip over, TW Tungsten tape 1.5cm x2 at 2:00 and 10:00. Volkl Cyclone Tour 16g black @50lbs.

You would purchase extra grommets from Wilson. The blade grommets don’t work

 

[Masato]

I'm wondering whether to buy the Yonex VCORE Pro 97 (310) or the Ultra Pro (16x19).
The specs are similar, but what are the differences?

 

[Addxyz]

I'm wondering whether to buy the Yonex VCORE Pro 97 (310) or the Ultra Pro (16x19).
The specs are similar, but what are the differences?

$10.

 

[Masato]

Which do you think is more superior?

 

[BallBasher247]

Which do you think is more superior?

Ultra Pro. Does everything the VCP does, but better. And the feel is sublime, second only to the PT57As of the world. If you don't go with the Ultra Pro, go with the Angell TC95; you can pick your specs (no customization needed) and the QC beats Yonex and puts Wilson to shame; costs about the same as the other two too.

 

[Masato]

I see.
Is the Ultra Pro (16/19) better than the ULTRA TOUR or Ultra Pro (18/20)?

By the way, I played with the ULTRA TOUR and it felt hollow. I'm torn between the vcp and UP(16/19) or UP(18/20) because I like the feeling of being filled.
Do UT and UP(18/20) have the same feel?

 

[RF_PRO_STAFF]

I see.
Is the Ultra Pro (16/19) better than the ULTRA TOUR or Ultra Pro (18/20)?

By the way, I played with the ULTRA TOUR and it felt hollow. I'm torn between the vcp and UP(16/19) or UP(18/20) because I like the feeling of being filled.
Do UT and UP(18/20) have the same feel?

I had both the UT and UP 18x20 at the same time and couldn't really notice a difference. Didn't have them for long but they should be exactly the same or almost identical. Maybe the UP is ever so slightly stiffer (or less plush), I haven't played them with the same strings.

I really didn't feel like the Ultra Tour is hollow though.

 

[BallBasher247]

I see.
Is the Ultra Pro (16/19) better than the ULTRA TOUR or Ultra Pro (18/20)?

By the way, I played with the ULTRA TOUR and it felt hollow. I'm torn between the vcp and UP(16/19) or UP(18/20) because I like the feeling of being filled.
Do UT and UP(18/20) have the same feel?

The UP v3 18x20 and UT are the same racket, same mold (H19) and layup, and they feel the same. The 16x19 has a little more ball pocketing since it has less strings. They all feel hollow when played in stock form even with foam filling, because they're platform frames that are meant to have weight added to them. Once you add that weight though, they all play like a dream. For example, my Ultra Pro 16x19s are customized to 336 grams, 32cm balance strung, and swingweights in the low 330s; I wouldn't go any lighter than that if you want to enjoy them. I added 4g lead at 3&9 o'clock, 3g at 12 o'clock, 1g at 6 o'clock, 4g under the buttcap, and an overgrip. The VCP 310 also plays better with added weight, but it's too muted for a thin beam "scalpel" racket; the UP is leagues ahead of it in feel.

I'd say the 16x19 is better for most people, even though it's not outright "better". It's very tight/controlled, but gives you just enough extra spin/launch angle to make it appeal to both 16 main and 18 main racket users, whereas the 18x20 has a super-tight string pattern that gives you absolutely nothing for free.

As I mentioned before, I personally think you'd be best off with an Angell Custom racket, either the TC95 or the TC97. Both of these are foam-filled, and you can choose your weight, balance, and grip material so you don't have to customize them later. They have tons of feel too, up there with the UP. Also, Wilson has the worst QC in the industry, so you might have to mess around with your UPs a lot to get them to feel right. It's worth it, these are truly special frames when weighted right, but they're not for the faint of heart.

 

[smithie]

I see.
Is the Ultra Pro (16/19) better than the ULTRA TOUR or Ultra Pro (18/20)?

By the way, I played with the ULTRA TOUR and it felt hollow. I'm torn between the vcp and UP(16/19) or UP(18/20) because I like the feeling of being filled.
Do UT and UP(18/20) have the same feel?

The UT and UP (18x20) play exactly the same, its only a cosmetic change. Some people have reported that the UP feels a point or two stiffer in comparison to the UT which some believe is due to the change in paint. However, IMO playing both side by side, matched, same string etc etc, I couldn't tell a difference between them and wouldn't be able to tell them apart in a blind test.

The UP 16x19 to me doesn't play very different from the UT/UP 18x20 at all as it is still a dense 16x19 in the same mold after all. The biggest difference to me was a slightly higher launch angle making it more user-friendly in general as the 18x20 version hits a very low trajectory ball. However, I wouldn't say the higher launch angle results in higher spin production. Ultimately I could happily switch between the 16x19 and 18x20 mid match and only take a couple of balls to adjust to the launch angle and feel dialled in.

The hollow nature is odd as its foam filled, but as other poster's have said you will need to add weight to it to get the most out of it which will make it feel rock solid. With my UT I had a weird vibration from the string bed (which people said is due to the height of the lowest cross) so maybe you are feeling that rather than a hollow feel?

 

[Masato]

In my experience, the filled-in feel was felt with the Blade 98v7, vCore Pro 97, and Phantom 93p (18/20), and the hollow feel was felt with the UT, 360 Speed Pro, eZone 98 (2020), and the previous cx200.

The racquets with the fuller feel had more flex, while the racquets with the hollow feel did not.

 

[BallBasher247]

In my experience, the filled-in feel was felt with the Blade 98v7, vCore Pro 97, and Phantom 93p (18/20), and the hollow feel was felt with the UT, 360 Speed Pro, eZone 98 (2020), and the previous cx200.

The racquets with the fuller feel had more flex, while the racquets with the hollow feel did not.

Interesting. What you're describing as "hollowness" seems to actually be closer to "instability"; all the rackets you described as "hollow" feel jarring outside the sweetspot in stock form because they all need weight at 3/9 and 12 o'clock to play stable. The VCore needs weight too, but it doesn't need it as badly as, say, the UT or the CX200, both of which are completely anemic and unstable in stock form. The VCore also has vibration dampening mesh in the handle, so you don't really feel the shock from the racket twisting. The rackets with the "fuller feel" were the ones with the most weight in the head; both the Blade and Phantom 93P have >330 swingweights and ample twistweights, unlike the "hollow" rackets you mentioned, all of which have swingweights under 320 and low twistweights.

 

[Haasquet]

I've gotten to the point where I'm very comfortable with my customized specs, so it's time to hide the lead.

To those of you that have put lead under the bumper on one of these: Can the bumper be put back in place after it's been removed? It doesn't look as though there's any significant flaring, even on the tie-off holes, so I would guess that it can. That said, I don't have a spare, so I'm a little wary of the possibility of bricking my racquet until I can get replacement bumpers.

Can anyone confirm?

 

[Tennisist]

It will be nearly impossible. You can force it, but the price will be several grommets which will get damaged in the process.

 

[smithie]

I've gotten to the point where I'm very comfortable with my customized specs, so it's time to hide the lead.

To those of you that have put lead under the bumper on one of these: Can the bumper be put back in place after it's been removed? It doesn't look as though there's any significant flaring, even on the tie-off holes, so I would guess that it can. That said, I don't have a spare, so I'm a little wary of the possibility of bricking my racquet until I can get replacement bumpers.

Can anyone confirm?

My pro shop hid the lead for me and didn’t change the grommets or cause any damage in the process, so it’s possible!

 

[Haasquet]

It will be nearly impossible. You can force it, but the price will be several grommets which will get damaged in the process.

I guess I'll have to be feeling particularly adventurous to try it without a backup. Meh. I've made worse choices in life...

 

[gebruikershaes]

If the racquet has been strung before and the grommets are not new don’t take it off. It will be a huge pain in the ass to get it back in. Trust me I’ve done it. Instead just lift the guard with the strings still in the racquet and slide the lead tape in.

 

[zipplock]

I've gotten to the point where I'm very comfortable with my customized specs, so it's time to hide the lead.

To those of you that have put lead under the bumper on one of these: Can the bumper be put back in place after it's been removed? It doesn't look as though there's any significant flaring, even on the tie-off holes, so I would guess that it can. That said, I don't have a spare, so I'm a little wary of the possibility of bricking my racquet until I can get replacement bumpers.

Can anyone confirm?

There's enough room to place lead tape under the bumper without taking the bumper all the way off. BTW, you will need replacement bumpers. These guards are super soft and wear out quickly.

 

[Masato]

Donnay Pro One Hexacore 97 V2 (16x19) seems to be similar to pt57a, but which is better compared to UP (16/19)?

 

[BallBasher247]

Donnay Pro One Hexacore 97 V2 (16x19) seems to be similar to pt57a, but which is better compared to UP (16/19)?

Most of us haven't tried the Donnay, but looking at the specs and layup, the Donnay's feel will be plusher and closer to the PT57A than the UP, which is crisper. Both will be sublime in that category, but in different ways. The UP will have more control and less spin than the Donnay due to the very tight stringbed; the Donnay is more open like the Angell TC97. Power should be similar between the two, neither will give you anything for free.

Compared to the PT57A, the other two are a bit more forgiving from the 97 headsize, and they play similarly enough to the PT57A where you could probably take all three into a match and play well with any of them. But, the PT57A has a more precision than the other two due to the 95 headsize. In a nutshell, the Donnay will feel more similar to the PT57A but the UP will play more similar.

The Donnay is cheaper than the UP and Donnay's QC is better than Wilson's is, but from what I've heard, their customer service doesn't seem to be good. The saving grace for the UP is that it's a platform racket that's gonna be customized anyway, but just know that buying multiple frames from them will likely get you completely different rackets.

You may want to look at the Angell TC95 or TC97 in 16x19 if you plan on spending UP money for a racket since you can choose your specs and the QC is fantastic, unless you're ready to invest a lot of time into customizing your racket. UPs are special when done right though, so it may be worth it to you; it was worth it to me (to be fair though, I had a Wilson discount).

 

[tennisboy2121]

I am looking for a little help. I want to know more about the UP 16x19. Does anyone know the twistweight. I have a couple head tgk238.2s(microgel prestige pro 16x19) weight to 12.7 oz very hl. If I weight up the UP to similar specs how would it compare. How is the comfort and is it uniform flex.

 

[bluebonsai]

Used to play with the iPrestige mid (93in, 18x20), still break it out every now and then; never played w the Microgel Prestige. Currently playing with the UP 16x19, weighted up to 345g ~32.5cm balance (strung). Played with a similarly weighted Ultra Tour before this. So a little apples to oranges but:

Prestige feels more buttery, whereas the UP is crisper; Ultra Tour I'd say slots in between the two. All are very comfortable with full bed poly. All have uniform flex throughout. Throat on the Ultras is perhaps slightly more flexible that the Prestige, but I assume this is just by virtue of weight distribution (weight on my Ultras is all in the head and leather grip so a little more polarized than the Prestige). Prestige is more maneuverable but that's to be expected with the thinner beam and 93in head. Not sure about the twist weight but they're all very stable.

All in all these sticks are very similar.

 

[SaaKha]

Anyone try any hybrid setups for this stick? Just picked one up on the big auction site and wanna steer clear of full poly atm.

 

[fundrazer]

Anyone try any hybrid setups for this stick? Just picked one up on the big auction site and wanna steer clear of full poly atm.

lol. There's a chance you bought mine. I had a 4 1/2 listed and shipped it out on Monday.

 

[SaaKha]

lol. There's a chance you bought mine. I had a 4 1/2 listed and shipped it out on Monday.

No the one I bought was a 4 3/8

 

[smithie]

Gut/Poly plays really nicely. I tried Babolat VS (1.30) with YPTP (black and yellow 1.25) and YPTF (1.25 & 1.20). My favourite was with YPTP black and YTPF 1.20 just behind.

 

[Jcryanlee]

Sorry if it came up already, but why are there disproportionally large number of UP16 users than UP18?

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Sorry if it came up already, but why are there disproportionally large number of UP16 users than UP18?

Are there? There could be... I have both... I might prefer the UP18 to the UP16... but it's close.

There could be several reasons to like either version. It just depends on what one is looking for. If you're looking for the UP feel but want more spin and loop to your shots, then the UP16 would be better. If, on the other hand, you're looking for that feel but need maximum control and precision, the UP18 would be better.

I have both, I like both... but feel like the UP18 has shots that shoot through the court more, which gives my opponents less time. I found that with the UP16, more balls come back, my opponent seems to be handling my shots better, and I end up having to hit more shots to win the point. But I love playing with it, I like how it feels, I like the variety it offers... so I keep the UP16 in my collection. It's a special racquet, but I have several others that I just win points more easily with. If I had to choose a racquet purely by its feel... it would be right there vying for the top spots.

At the end of the day... it's all personal.

 

[Jcryanlee]

Are there? There could be... I have both... I might prefer the UP18 to the UP16... but it's close.

There could be several reasons to like either version. It just depends on what one is looking for. If you're looking for the UP feel but want more spin and loop to your shots, then the UP16 would be better. If, on the other hand, you're looking for that feel but need maximum control and precision, the UP18 would be better.

I have both, I like both... but feel like the UP18 has shots that shoot through the court more, which gives my opponents less time. I found that with the UP16, more balls come back, my opponent seems to be handling my shots better, and I end up having to hit more shots to win the point. But I love playing with it, I like how it feels, I like the variety it offers... so I keep the UP16 in my collection. It's a special racquet, but I have several others that I just win points more easily with. If I had to choose a racquet purely by its feel... it would be right there vying for the top spots.

At the end of the day... it's all personal.

Thanks for the input.

i currently use pure aero 2019 and blade pro 16m. I wanted to try something different from these two, so I am looking at UP now. The thing is, will UP 16m too similar to BP 16m, or will there be enough difference to justify having both BP and UP? Or should I just get UP 18m to try a dense string pattern? I like my spin game style, so I am looking for some spin potential, which I am guessing 18m should provide if the technique is there.

 

[BallBasher247]

Thanks for the input.

i currently use pure aero 2019 and blade pro 16m. I wanted to try something different from these two, so I am looking at UP now. The thing is, will UP 16m too similar to BP 16m, or will there be enough difference to justify having both BP and UP? Or should I just get UP 18m to try a dense string pattern? I like my spin game style, so I am looking for some spin potential, which I am guessing 18m should provide if the technique is there.

The UP and BP are both box beam, 97-98 sq in, medium-soft rackets with tons of feel, but the similarities end there. You can get spin with 18m rackets, but if you're used to open 16m rackets, you should get the UP 16x19, which has a dense/tight 16x19 pattern (btw the UP 18x20 has a super tight pattern). The precision and control is still great with this one, and there's plenty of potential to hit heavy spin with it. Be aware that the UP gives you nothing for free compared to the PA and even BP, and it swings completely differently. The UP is more headlight and classic balance where the BP is more of an even-balance, plow through the ball like a truck type of racket.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Thanks for the input.

i currently use pure aero 2019 and blade pro 16m. I wanted to try something different from these two, so I am looking at UP now. The thing is, will UP 16m too similar to BP 16m, or will there be enough difference to justify having both BP and UP? Or should I just get UP 18m to try a dense string pattern? I like my spin game style, so I am looking for some spin potential, which I am guessing 18m should provide if the technique is there.

BP and UP are quite different. The BP, as you know, is low static weight/ high SW/ 2-4 pts HL formula (and a copy of the Head LM Radical Tour - or around thereabouts). The UP is a low static weight/lower SW/ more HL balance formula (copy of the Head PT57A - low weight Pro Stock Platform racquet).

They play quite differently. The UP is going to need modification otherwise it will feel very low-powered and unstable. I added weight in the head and handle and ended with a static weight around 350-360g (depending on mods and strings - I think mine is 353g), a balance of 9-10 pts HL (strung), and a SW of 340+. These are personal preferences... but it needs modification for sure.

The BP (I have the BP16M) was quite stable in stock form, so for me, it mainly needed weight in the handle to be more to my liking. I added a very small amount at 3,9, and 12 o'clock, but added quite a bit in the handle area. My finished stats (UNSTRUNG) are 343g static, 305mm balance (12 pts HL), and 324 SW. So depending on strings... this would be around the 360g mark static weight, 9-10 pts HL, and around 353 SW.

The BP is much more powerful but not quite as precise as the UP - but still very good (I'm comparing the 16M versions as I have not tried the BP18M). I'm being very picky here, as they are both great racquets (and I have both), but the BP is better when it comes to sheer offense and on defense... the UP is more precise, allows more flair and creativity, but will require more work to finish the point off.

I hope I'm making sense and clarifying stuff for you. If you have more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers

 

[Jcryanlee]

BP and UP are quite different. The BP, as you know, is low static weight/ high SW/ 2-4 pts HL formula (and a copy of the Head LM Radical Tour - or around thereabouts). The UP is a low static weight/lower SW/ more HL balance formula (copy of the Head PT57A - low weight Pro Stock Platform racquet).

They play quite differently. The UP is going to need modification otherwise it will feel very low-powered and unstable. I added weight in the head and handle and ended with a static weight around 350-360g (depending on mods and strings - I think mine is 353g), a balance of 9-10 pts HL (strung), and a SW of 340+. These are personal preferences... but it needs modification for sure.

The BP (I have the BP16M) was quite stable in stock form, so for me, it mainly needed weight in the handle to be more to my liking. I added a very small amount at 3,9, and 12 o'clock, but added quite a bit in the handle area. My finished stats (UNSTRUNG) are 343g static, 305mm balance (12 pts HL), and 324 SW. So depending on strings... this would be around the 360g mark static weight, 9-10 pts HL, and around 353 SW.

The BP is much more powerful but not quite as precise as the UP - but still very good (I'm comparing the 16M versions as I have not tried the BP18M). I'm being very picky here, as they are both great racquets (and I have both), but the BP is better when it comes to sheer offense and on defense... the UP is more precise, allows more flair and creativity, but will require more work to finish the point off.

I hope I'm making sense and clarifying stuff for you. If you have more questions please feel free to ask.

Cheers

Thanks for the explanation.
Sounds like your BP and UP are modded to similar spec (static weight balance). Do you still feel UP has better control and less power (assuming so given the swing weight difference) than BP? Is UP16m denser near the sweet spot than BP16m?

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Thanks for the explanation.
Sounds like your BP and UP are modded to similar spec (static weight balance). Do you still feel UP has better control and less power (assuming so given the swing weight difference) than BP? Is UP16m denser near the sweet spot than BP16m?

Yes, the UP16 is still much lower in power (but much better than stock). I think I put my two racquets over each other (the BP16 and UP16) and the Mains are almost identical (but the UP seems to have 6 Mains in the throat and the BP 8 Mains - the difference seems to be the length of the grommet strip in the throat), but the Crosses of the BP are more spread out (wider) than the UP. Therefore, the UP is denser in the middle... and the racquet is more controlled.

 

[Vicious49]

Sorry if it came up already, but why are there disproportionally large number of UP16 users than UP18?

I dont think there are if you include the UT. The UP18 was already released as the Ultra Tour. It then got rebranded and the price jacked up. I think most folks who liked it already bought it when they were blowing out UTs on clearance.

 

[taylor15]

If you guys were planning to try the UP for the first time and coming from Prestige Pro (Touch and 360+) would you think a good first place to start is a similar setup? I'm at 340gm strung, 330sw and about 7pts HL balance. Also super similar to my UT setup, which I really miss the feel.

 

[mad dog1]

Sorry if it came up already, but why are there disproportionally large number of UP16 users than UP18?

UP18 users use the previous version called the UT which was only offered in 18/20. the UT was my go to frame for a long time so when the UPs came out, I bought a pair of UP16s to try but didn’t feel the need to buy the UP18 since I already had the UT.

 

[RVAtennisaddict]

I cont my racket roulette. I went ultra tour. Ultra pro 16x19. Blade 16x19. And then recently prostaff 97 (not rf). But a, feeling like I might go back to the ultratour.

Fav thing about the ultra pro and blade 16x19 is volleys and backhands. Definitely plows through the ball is nice for return of serve. But I tend to go a little to big and that creates more errors.

Had hurt my quad (right) but slow healing and playing more old man tennns. So wanted lighter and the graphics on v13 prostaff are amazing

 

[taylor15]

I bought 3 ULTRA PRO 16x19. and did some customization by myself.

you guys can check the final spec of 3 rackets (unstrung , without overgrip)

This is great work! How did you measure unstrung swing weight?

 

[andersonho]

This is great work! How did you measure unstrung swing weight?

I went to a tennis shop to measure the swing weight.

 

[babolatPDstandard]

Hi all

I made a separate thread but hoping this UP focused thread may help

I have a grip size 4 (4 1/2) in the Wilson Pro Labs 6.1 95, Blade Pro 16/19 & Ultra Pro 16/19. I use Wilson leather + Pro over grip. I'm confident that my grip installation is consistent

I found the grips to feel quite different across the 3x models. 6.1 95 is the thinnest. BP feels average in thickness but some taper in the top hand (2HBH). UP is the thickest and also fuller in the top hand vs. the BP. Measurements with a tape support how these feel in the hand

Has anyone else compared these racquets and found differences in the grip feel? Or is this perhaps something that is specific to grip size 4?

The UP actually feels a full size bigger than the 6.1 95, but I'm not sure whether it would be safe to go size 3 (4 3/8) in this model, or whether the difference is specifically in the size 4 for the UP

How have those who have tried the UP in size 4 (4 1/2) found the grip vs other Wilson racquets? Also, did 4 3/8 users find them to be on the larger side or similar to other Wilson handles?

Just trying to figure out if I order a 2nd racquet, what size I should go with. Thanks in advance