which one is goat?
Plot twist: none of them.
I have long since realized that modern theoretical physics is in reality the most elaborate inside joke ever created, hid under such levels of abstraction and, if necessary, obtuse math so that the plebeians can't test and debunk the joke. Everyone on the inside have taken a pledge to keep silent about the whole charade, and the goal is to see how far they can push it before people notice. They started out kinda subtle and somewhat plausible, but by now it's like they don't even care anymore — and still they go on mostly unnoticed.
I suspect that this theoretical-prank cult can be traced back to Newton. His mechanistic laws undermining the obvious reality of material bodies which we all know to be true — yeah, cool story Isaac. Too bad that the letters you sent betray the real feelings you had about your own theories: "... to me so great an absurdity that, I believe, no man who has in philosophic matters a competent faculty of thinking could ever fall into it." Yeah, busted, Newtie.
Those on the inside thought that Einstein had pushed the joke too far with his relativity and all that jazz. I mean, Twin Paradox — come on! That's just stoopid. "When I have them hot girls on my lap, time moves relatively fast". Yeah, you sassy prankster, Albert. But no, no one saw through it.
And that spurred them into going full clown-mode, leading us to the quantum debacle.
Copenhagen? Puh-leaze. Physical systems do not have definite properties until we measure them, and the act of measuring affects the system, and collapse and yada-yada, and so the real world no real? You're obviously pranking me. Entanglement i.e., Schröedinger's cat, you're telling me that the cat is simultaneously dead and alive? More like Schröedinger's monkeyshine, amirite.
Many-worlds interpretation? "[T]here is a very large—perhaps infinite—number of universes, and everything that could possibly have happened in our past, but did not, has occurred in the past of some other universe or universes". Yeah, you guys have been reading too many Isaac Asimov novels, alright. Gimme a break.
Worse yet are the von Neuman and Wigner-gang claiming that the human mind is what makes the wave-function collapse, and so reality no real without our consciousness or whatever. You saying there was no reality before brains evolved? That's the dumbest thing I've heard.
And the worst offender of them all is Tegmark and the whole "mathematical universe" circus. "What if, like, everything is really nothing but math and numbers and, like, dodecahedrons and stuff". Jesus. Lay off the acid already.
(inserted pic of Tegmark holding the real reality in the palm of his hand)
If anyone has any doubt, and they will: yes, none of this is serious at all.
that's brilliant. shut this thread down.
I like Tegmark's ideas.
Plot twist: none of them.
I have long since realized that modern theoretical physics is in reality the most elaborate inside joke ever created, hid under such levels of abstraction and, if necessary, obtuse math so that the plebeians can't test and debunk the joke. Everyone on the inside have taken a pledge to keep silent about the whole charade, and the goal is to see how far they can push it before people notice. They started out kinda subtle and somewhat plausible, but by now it's like they don't even care anymore — and still they go on mostly unnoticed.
I suspect that this theoretical-prank cult can be traced back to Newton. His mechanistic laws undermining the obvious reality of material bodies which we all know to be true — yeah, cool story Isaac. Too bad that the letters you sent betray the real feelings you had about your own theories: "... to me so great an absurdity that, I believe, no man who has in philosophic matters a competent faculty of thinking could ever fall into it." Yeah, busted, Newtie.
Those on the inside thought that Einstein had pushed the joke too far with his relativity and all that jazz. I mean, Twin Paradox — come on! That's just stoopid. "When I have them hot girls on my lap, time moves relatively fast". Yeah, you sassy prankster, Albert. But no, no one saw through it.
And that spurred them into going full clown-mode, leading us to the quantum debacle.
Copenhagen? Puh-leaze. Physical systems do not have definite properties until we measure them, and the act of measuring affects the system, and collapse and yada-yada, and so the real world no real? You're obviously pranking me. Entanglement i.e., Schröedinger's cat, you're telling me that the cat is simultaneously dead and alive? More like Schröedinger's monkeyshine, amirite.
Many-worlds interpretation? "[T]here is a very large—perhaps infinite—number of universes, and everything that could possibly have happened in our past, but did not, has occurred in the past of some other universe or universes". Yeah, you guys have been reading too many Isaac Asimov novels, alright. Gimme a break.
Worse yet are the von Neuman and Wigner-gang claiming that the human mind is what makes the wave-function collapse, and so reality no real without our consciousness or whatever. You saying there was no reality before brains evolved? That's the dumbest thing I've heard.
And the worst offender of them all is Tegmark and the whole "mathematical universe" circus. "What if, like, everything is really nothing but math and numbers and, like, dodecahedrons and stuff". Jesus. Lay off the acid already.
(inserted pic of Tegmark holding the real reality in the palm of his hand)
If anyone has any doubt, and they will: yes, none of this is serious at all.
I like Tegmark's ideas.
At least he tries to address the question why there is anything at all!
as far as i know, quantum properties stop manifesting themselves in any significant way (although always present, see de Broglie wavelength) by the time you get much larger than a pile of atoms. i think the observer effect refers to the observer's inability to probe a quantum system without disturbing it to the point of collapsing the probability wave. the measurement problem is "what exactly causes the probability wave collapse and how can we observe it?" uncertainty principle is more a fundamental property of wave mathematics. and since the quantum realm is heavily rooted in wave-like phenomena, it too follows the seemingly bizarre "uncertain" behavior. i could be wrong about all that, though. which is pretty much why i made this thread, in hopes of coaxing out a resident TT theoretical physicist to explain things better.
i'd watch this sitcom. tegmark can be the kramer of the show that busts through door and says a whacky dodecahedron-centric thing in his funny accent *canned laughter*Stoned scientists/philosophers have been rambling out their pet "ultimate" theories of reality like that for some thousand years. Even the "it's all math bro" shtick itself was done already by Pythagoras and co.
Hesiod: Fellas, through the power of this joint I have found the answer to the ultimate nature of reality: chaos -- everything that exists stems from a yawning abyss. Think about it.
Thales: Hesiod man, the only emptiness here is where your brain's supposed to be. Something cannot be formed out of nothing. But what if everything is really just water. I'm talking about water, man!
Anaximander: Cool science bro, but if everything was just water, there would be no fire. Nah, everything is really some mystical and boundless substance that I'll call apeiron, but I can't tell you shlt about what that substance is.
Anaximenes: That's just hot air out of your behind, m9-1. Speaking of which, reality is really just air. Think about it. Everything changes just the same way air rarefies and condenses. Makes total sense.
Pythagoras: Plebs. It's evident from the harmony of the universe (read: my neighbourhood) that everything is really just the relations between numbers. Do you even math, bruhs?
Plato: Pythagoras, u aspie. Can you explain the nature of justice and beauty through the relation of numbers alone? Think not! Nah, what if, like, everything that we see are just imperfect representations of perfect ideas. How rad would that be!? And what if we're really just like people captured in dark caves who have never seen the sun, and I'm like the only one who's seen the light! Imagine.
Democritus: You darn stoners, always fantasizing about parallel realms and mysterious substances: in reality it's just the movements of small atoms. Lay off the ganja, will you?
Plato: Why you always come sober to these parties only to be such a pooper, Democritus? You're ruining all the fun.
Tegmark: GUYS!! I'm here, and I brought with me the answer to everything! You know how I love dodecahedrons and they're really awesome and stuff? Well, what if reality actually only exists of abstract math and figures like dodecahedrons and stuff!? Dodecahedrons are outside of space-time, plus they're really cool too. Reality don't real, only dodecahedrons real. YAY!!Plato: Never mind. I'm going cold turkey from now on.
bro, are you saying that you don't know what each interpretation implies nor the underlying theory and mathematical justifications behind them? this isnt rocket surgery
Copenhagen is Finnish.
i found that meme in a different reference frame in the universe where the event was perceived to occur in 1899
