OK, now you're either being willfully obtuse or just plain confused. Since this seems possibly a language-barrier issue I'll cut you some slack and go with the latter. Here's what I said:
Again, I never called for your ban but simply wondered whether everyone might be better off if you stayed away from this forum either permanently or for an extended period of time. This wasn't an assertion, but a mere questioning of the current state of affairs. And note I never called for everyone else to be banned. That's another misreading or "lie" on your part.
But as for the others I'm going to be less generous, because I don't see how anyone who like you speaks passable English can get this wrong:
Again, Gary said you should be banned IF you keep personally attacking people who don't agree with you (mostly regarding your hero). That's not the same thing as "pleading" for your ban.
And here's what your "enemy" Limpin said:
This time I'll grant that he did say you deserve to be banned, but implicit even here is the general distaste about your personal attacks in response to the slightest slight you perceive with respect to your darling and your obsessive advocacy for him. He didn't say you should be gone forever even if you somehow managed to change your ways.
That's the overall point I was trying to make, not this textual hairsplitting you're too quick to use in an effort to prove others wrong. You have said before you like disproving wrong claims made by others. Well, that's the very mentality you need to ditch if you want to get along with people in life. Again it's not healthy for everyone involved. Be more secure in your opinions and know when to let things go. I'm almost certain I'm not the first to tell you this.
This is another one of your paranoid fantasies. FYI when I said "Graf fanatics" I was thinking of the banned poster Joe Pike (who was even more obsessive than you, if that were possible) and several others I've seen here, not the literally deranged fanboy who committed that despicable crime against his goddess' rival for something as trivial as tennis. And while I don't remember exactly what Limpin said (in fact I don't recall seeing it) I'm pretty sure he was being somewhat facetious as usual about the Parche comparison and you chose to take it in the most negative way.
Which brings me to another main point: you shouldn't be too quick to assume the worst intentions from the people you meet. While I share your stated misanthropy about our species in general I do think most individuals try to do the right thing even if they don't necessarily succeed (actually reality tends to be quite the opposite). And your insistence on your use of the term "hate" to describe your "enemies" shows a childish impulse to paint the "other side" in the worst possible light. That's something you expect from 12-year-olds, not near 70-somthings like you, and though the media share much of the blame in fanning these tribal tensions by adopting this very infantile terminology (everyone seems to be a "hater" these days) that's no excuse for grown-ups like us who should know better.
And one last thing. If I really "hated" you I wouldn't be bothering to tell you all this. Indifference is in many ways worse than hate if not synonymous with it, and you should be thankful there are still some people who try to set you on the right course of action.
Yes, I'm sure you already know even recordings of "live" performances undergo extensive edits before being released to the public. But it's impossible to completely ignore the technical aspects of the
Hammerklavier as they're very much part of what makes it a worthwhile endeavor on the part of both the performer and the listener, and I daresay Perahia handled them as well as his mentor probably ever did, if not even better.
And I don't usually fuss over definitions or categories myself, as the best music tends to incorporate various elements from different periods or genres, much like the best films tend to straddle both fiction and documentary. What really galled me about this particular case, though (well, apart from who I was dealing with), is that jazz is essentially an African-American music and Bobby's denial of its rightful origins (in another one of his attempts to be proven right, go figure) struck me as an especially egregious instance of cultural appropriation. (Though I don't know Bobby personally I take it that he's an old white dude living in a posh community of Vienna.) I mean, have some respect for history. That's almost as bad as the college kids wailing about "wage slavery" just because they've read some Chomsky and think they know how the world economy works.
BTW one of the things I'd like to do before leaving this earth is to work as an ethnomusicologist and travel around the world collecting samples while meeting different peoples and cultures. Another is to coach a basketball team in a quasi-competition and preferably lead them to a title.
