Nole's worst start of 2017 season since 2006
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BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
"Novak's declined."
Last year at this time, he'd won:
Doha
Australian Open
IW
Miami
Madrid
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Last year at this time, he'd won:
Doha
Australian Open
IW
Miami
Madrid
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ZiggyStardust
Professional
It's his best year ever in terms of playing level. The Nicks and the Sashas caught up to his outdated brand of tennis.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Definitely the field catching up.
He has simply got exposed by Zverev and Kyrgios. 0-3 this year and 0-6 in sets.
He is as good as ever. The competition just got better.
He has simply got exposed by Zverev and Kyrgios. 0-3 this year and 0-6 in sets.
He is as good as ever. The competition just got better.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
His level drop has been absolutely massive. Back in mid 2016 people were predicting him to win like 10 majors in a row and honestly I can't really blame them, he was that much better than the rest of the field including other members of the big 4.
Rafa the King
Hall of Fame
mike danny
Bionic Poster
ObviouslyI'm sensing some kind of payback to the people who said this nonsense about Roger?
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VexlanderPrime
Guest
Hey, enjoy the Djokovic slump while u can Fed fans. If anything he's been improving and showing signs of pulling out of his rut throughout the clay season. He's clearly a slam contender again which I wouldn't have said 2 months ago
But I agree, he's never going to be back to 2015 levels again
But I agree, he's never going to be back to 2015 levels again
AceSalvo
Legend
I'm sensing some kind of payback to the people who said this nonsense about Roger?
Oh, its coming!
Lord Anomander
Professional
Zverev and Kyrgios played incredibly well against him, but Novak didn't return as good as he used to. Nole is struggling to find consistency and so he can play lights out one day and loses the other.
It will be interesting to see what Agassi can add to Novak and maybe Novak can peak when it's important.
It will be interesting to see what Agassi can add to Novak and maybe Novak can peak when it's important.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Novak is playing still at a very high level .
Novak will also age better than Fed. Djoko fans have solid proof
Novak will also age better than Fed. Djoko fans have solid proof
irishnadalfan1983
Hall of Fame
Not sure anyone will age better than Fed! However I see Nole being in top 4/challenging for slams for another 2/3 years for definite....Agassi is such a good move....
Gazelle
G.O.A.T.
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VexlanderPrime
Guest
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Let's look on the bright side, there are only six players with better results so far this year. And things could be worse - he could be Murray right now!
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Since turning 30 Fed has won 2 slams, 8 masters and 1 WTF. Nadal won 2 masters. The race is on!
Noelan
Legend
Yes, it is his worst start . If we are like some certain fan base we could say" Oldovic era has begun- officially" , but I assume we are not
Srs there are some positivities in the last 2 or 3 weeks in his game. And I belive it was enjoyable to see him play awesome tennis in SF match no matter how much some hate him , especially now when he lost the final match.
Srs there are some positivities in the last 2 or 3 weeks in his game. And I belive it was enjoyable to see him play awesome tennis in SF match no matter how much some hate him , especially now when he lost the final match.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Could be a very long time before anyone plays at that level again.
Murray has a terrible start for his standard, but that doesn't mean Nole isn't having a disappointing season. He blamed on his coaching staff and fire them.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
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Deleted member 748597
Guest
The era is too strong now. Peak Nole can't compete anymore. 2017 Season has the strongest players.
LUL
LUL
Rock Strongo
Legend
His 2017 season in 2006 was horrific.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
In fairness, Verdasco played much better against Djokovic in the Doha semis(really should've won) than he did in the Dubai final against Murray and Novak had to play a great match to beat Andy for the title so IMO it pretty much evens itself out.
irishnadalfan1983
Hall of Fame
Where have you being??!
irishnadalfan1983
Hall of Fame
I don't think that quite fully tells how good Fed has been - stats don't quite tell us everything!
Noelan
Legend
http://live-tennis.eu/en/atp-race
it's not actually, also Murray played one more tournament than Novak , is now behind him.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
But if Nadal, say, were to win 4 slams after 30 would you still argue Fed aged better?
Jaitock1991
Hall of Fame
Nole is better than ever, no? I'm sure ABCD thinks he is. The rest of the field is just catching up I'm afraid.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Very busy. Trying to move house is a pain in the @rse, especially when you can't find anywhere to live.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Novak's season is far better than Murray.
Novak has lost close matches all through this year , starting from Istomin , Kyrgios (2X), Goffin. A point here, a point there and it would have resembled Rafa's 2013. Winning all close matches and having a terrific year.
Novak has lost close matches all through this year , starting from Istomin , Kyrgios (2X), Goffin. A point here, a point there and it would have resembled Rafa's 2013. Winning all close matches and having a terrific year.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
It was as if he aimed to peak for the semi and forgot he had another match to play the next day! Honestly can't recall the last time I saw one of the Big 4 play so great one day then be so abysmal the next.
In particular his win % aged 31, 33, 34 in 2012, 2014, 2015 are very impressive. As well as the amount of finals reached, grand slam finals, wins over peak Djokovic. He basically completely owned the 3rd generation after his but just came short against 27-29!year old Djokovic in BO5 which is no shame.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Without Djokovic around, he would have won like 4 majors more post 30.
I would like Rafa / Novak / Murray to see if they can match Fed's
2012 : 71-12
2014 : 73-12
2015 : 63-11
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Incredible stats. Shame he couldn't clutch that 2014 wimbledon final or even IW/Monte Carlo.
And yeah 2 Wimbledons, 1 USO, 1 AO.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Not been gone that long have I?You live?
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Not been gone that long have I?
Djokovic2011, welcome back! You are the fairest, smartest and greatest Nole fan on:
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
How about Fed's imperious semifinal form against Murray at Wimbledon 2015 and then laying down totally against your guy in the final? That was a great example.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Funnily enough I did think of that match earlier as an example of a player peaking in the semis and not playing as well in the final but no way was Federer anywhere near as bad in the '15 Wimbledon final as Djokovic was today.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
The point was about playing at an insane level one day and not being able to replicate it the next. That's Wimb 2015.
WTF 2015 also qualifies. That was an even worse level from Fed in the final after a great semi.
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