Do people really think Djokovic was faking the injury?

Street

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I'm not really a Djokovic fan so i'm not trying to defend him but what would be his motivation for faking an injury and hitting much weaker backhands and serves than he normally does against Londero in r2? I can understand the criticism in that AO final against Murray where he looked dead at some point and was flying on the court the rest of the match but I don't see a valid reason for him to fake it at the USO r2, yet I see a lot of people accusing him of faking it.
 
ADuck

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Djokovic is clearly struggling with something as evidenced by his MTO in Cincy, the pain he's expressed in practise sessions, the way he struggled in his latest match and his interview after. But the severity of the injury is unknown to everyone but him and his doctors.. so naturally Djokovic fans will assume the worst, and haters will assume the best (or worst, depending how you look at it).

Personally, I'm so used to watching him look seemingly out of energy and like he's about to die on the court, only for him to flip a switch and grind out a 30-shot rally and win the next 7 games or something. That's why I never trust Djokovic to lose ever.

Then there's the fact that he's had physical issues in both the previous two HC slams in the early rounds only for it to be a distant memory when he's holding the trophy two weeks later.

I can understand more why people think it's exaggerated but you still gotta be pretty stupid to think it's fake.
 
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I think they probably know he's not faking it but hating on their favorite's rivals is just part of their philosophy. They feel like it's their job to belittle them no matter what, even if they don't actually believe what they say.

Of course, sensible fans admitted Djokovic was injured, even if they don't like him.
 
Enceladus

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Street said:
I'm not really a Djokovic fan so i'm not trying to defend him but what would be his motivation for faking an injury and hitting much weaker backhands and serves than he normally does against Londero in r2? I can understand the criticism in that AO final against Murray where he looked dead at some point and was flying on the court the rest of the match but I don't see a valid reason for him to fake it at the USO r2, yet I see a lot of people accusing him of faking it.
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In the AO 2015 final, Djoker struggled with momentary weakness as a result of his illness in January 2015 and a challenging program (five-set match against Stan and two TBs against Murray). The electrolytic drinks, which Amanovic supplied him helped him catch second breath.
 
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Street said:
I'm not really a Djokovic fan so i'm not trying to defend him but what would be his motivation for faking an injury and hitting much weaker backhands and serves than he normally does against Londero in r2? I can understand the criticism in that AO final against Murray where he looked dead at some point and was flying on the court the rest of the match but I don't see a valid reason for him to fake it at the USO r2, yet I see a lot of people accusing him of faking it.
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Well you'd have to concede that if Djokovic does go on to win this USO, he was indeed faking, no? Else how could he win with such an injury? Would you be implying Djokovic with such a serious injury is better than Nadal and Federer playing well? Especially after Djokovic was down match points to the old man a few months ago. Thus, if Djokovic wins USO19 = him faking.
 
TennisFan3

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Djokovic will still win this tournament - even at his B game. That is the whole point as he is so much better than the rest of the ATP tour.

I really don't see Federer or Nadal beating even this "diminished" Djokovic. Fedal have been pummelled so many times (by Djokovic) that they don't have the belief anymore. The H2H since 2011 is decisively one-sided.

At this point, if Novak's injury flares up and he retires, that's the only scenario in which he loses IMO. Hopefully the injury would be ok. Djokovic's team looks confident with the R&R.
 
Tenacity

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BeatlesFan said:
Both McEnroe brothers said he was faking, and aren’t bitter fans of rival fan bases. They were present at the match and had their own opinions.
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You just said you didn't watch the match, but somehow heard what brothers think out loud.
You read that in some tabloid probably and decided to roll with it. They probably didn't say anything remotely to that.

Thought you were one of the good Fed fans out there, guess I was wrong.
 
mbm0912

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TennisFan3 said:
Djokovic will still win this tournament - even at his B game. That is the whole point as he is so much better than the rest of the ATP tour.

I really don't see Federer or Nadal beating even this "diminished" Djokovic. Fedal have been pummelled so many times (by Djokovic) that they don't have the belief anymore. The H2H since 2011 is decisively one-sided.

At this point, if Novak's injury flares up and he retires, that's the only scenario in which he loses IMO. Hopefully the injury would be ok. Djokovic's team looks confident with the R&R.
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B-game Djoker does not beat Nadal.
 
TennisFan3

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mbm0912 said:
B-game Djoker does not beat Nadal.
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Exactly right. That is why Nadal did NOT even come close to winning a set in AO 2019 Final.
Also that is why Nadal has not beaten Novak outside of clay since 6 YEARS.

Do you think that in all those matches Novak was playing his A game?

Nadal is an even bigger underdog against Djokovic than Federer is. At least Fed had Match points in Wimbledon.
 
Mr Feeny

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TennisFan3 said:
Djokovic will still win this tournament - even at his B game. That is the whole point as he is so much better than the rest of the ATP tour.

I really don't see Federer or Nadal beating even this "diminished" Djokovic. Fedal have been pummelled so many times (by Djokovic) that they don't have the belief anymore. The H2H since 2011 is decisively one-sided.

At this point, if Novak's injury flares up and he retires, that's the only scenario in which he loses IMO. Hopefully the injury would be ok. Djokovic's team looks confident with the R&R.
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Jeez the delusion.
 
Third Serve

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It's not fake, but we don't yet know how serious it is. If this pops up at all during the second week, his chances of winning the tournament will drastically lower. We're not near that point yet so it's good to view from a distance.
 
prairiegirl

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Why would he fake an injury? That makes no sense. The physiotherapist comes out and assesses him. If the physio doesn't see anything, they wouldn't treat him. They would tell him he's fine. So, it's unlikely that he's pretending. However, the level of the discomfort is something only he knows, and that could be more the issue. An individual can certainly "pretend" or "exaggerate" the level of pain they are experiencing, as that is entirely subjective. He could say he's in horrible pain, and the physio wouldn't know one way or the other.
 
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I don't think he was faking last night. I do think he's a bit dramatic at times, and maybe last night too, but there was clearly something off. Hopefully it'll just work itself out and not be an issue.
 
swordtennis

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alexio88 said:
don't you think it's time to parachute down from cloud cuckooland?:)
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LMAO if you know djokovic a little you can tell he kinda knows he prob will not be going all the way. His comments on "keeping positive" "hoping he gets some luck" "hoping with therapy the pain will go away by next match" etc etc. He is just going give it a go and if he gets knocked out he is ready.
 
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I just found footage of what injured his left shoulder

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Darn it Novak, too many one handed push ups with the left arm.
 
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I don't think he's faking it, but this isn't new for Djokovic. Plays poorly in warm up tournaments, struggles with something physical, looks bad in early matches at a Major, etc. Often, once he hits the QF he finds his form and ends up winning the whole thing. I see that happening again at the US Open.
 
Blade0324

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Yes he was making a bigger deal out of it than it was for sure if not faking entirely. That's partially why not as many people like him.
 
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JimJones said:
Well you'd have to concede that if Djokovic does go on to win this USO, he was indeed faking, no? Else how could he win with such an injury? Would you be implying Djokovic with such a serious injury is better than Nadal and Federer playing well? Especially after Djokovic was down match points to the old man a few months ago. Thus, if Djokovic wins USO19 = him faking.
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Solid logic
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RF-18

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Honestly people thinking he is faking are sofa experts completely out of reality. Why would he fake an injury or that he is in pain all of a sudden? It doesnt even make sense. Where was this the previous 5 slams? Was he coming with fake stories then also to set up an excuse? Or throughout his career? Jesus you people are ostriches.
 
Raul_SJ

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Street said:
What was his motivation for doing it against Londero?
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No motivation to fake it. Did not see the match but post-match interview he said it was affecting his serve. So apparently he was DF'ing and lost pace on his serve.
The only explanation is that he has a shoulder issue... Was also 2 hours late to interview to get medical treatment. It is real.
The only question is how quickly it can heal.
 
Street

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DSH said:
He seeks to make people a derivative of love: compassion, In compassion, caring is the basic attitude, a crucial part of love.
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I don't think i know what that means. I don't think anybody knows what that means except you hopefully.
 
beard

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JimJones said:
Well you'd have to concede that if Djokovic does go on to win this USO, he was indeed faking, no? Else how could he win with such an injury? Would you be implying Djokovic with such a serious injury is better than Nadal and Federer playing well? Especially after Djokovic was down match points to the old man a few months ago. Thus, if Djokovic wins USO19 = him faking.
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What kind of logic is this?
He never said its big injury, he said multiple times he has problems but will try to solve them. After first match he was actually very optimistic, calling injury minor. Its Fed fans who see this situation as big chance for their vulturer, so they are afraid to be disappointed if Novak's injury isn't enought to propell their goat to the final.

So Novak, better quit not to disappoint Fed army...
 
beard

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OhYes said:
It is simple, some Fedal fans want their favs to win UO, so everything that is not having Djokovic losing from weak player or retiring, is considered as faking.
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Haha, we wrote basically same thing simultaneously.... They are so shallow...
 
Lleytonstation

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:cry:
beard said:
What kind of logic is this?
He never said its big injury, he said multiple times he has problems but will try to solve them. After first match he was actually very optimistic, calling injury minor. Its Fed fans who see this situation as big chance for their vulturer, so they are afraid to be disappointed if Novak's injury isn't enought to propell their goat to the final.

So Novak, better quit not to disappoint Fed army...
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As a Fed fan I see the opposite. His "injury" will only make him better as he did last night. He is more scary to me as a Fed fan when he is up against it. I should know... :cry:
 
DSH

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Street said:
I don't think i know what that means. I don't think anybody knows what that means except you hopefully.
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If he is really hurt and it is an intense pain, Djokovic should withdraw from the tournament so as not to aggravate that pain, if instead it is a nuisance and he can continue with it, he should not complain so much and should only concentrate on playing, otherwise he would seem suspicious that when faced with more difficult rivals when passing rounds, the Serbian resorts to incorrect ways to destabilize his opponent in turn (see the example of the final 3 years ago in New York against Wawrinka) and that is a way to appeal to the compassion I mentioned earlier.
 
Lleytonstation

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DSH said:
If he is really hurt and it is an intense pain, Djokovic should withdraw from the tournament so as not to aggravate that pain, if instead it is a nuisance and he can continue with it, he should not complain so much and should only concentrate on playing, otherwise he would seem suspicious that when faced with more difficult rivals when passing rounds, the Serbian resorts to incorrect ways to destabilize his opponent in turn (see the example of the final 3 years ago in New York against Wawrinka) and that is a way to appeal to the compassion I mentioned earlier.
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I see it as the opposite, we might see another 15 minute lull followed by domination just like last night in round 3 vs a tired opponent. Then when the opponents get more difficult the injury will disappear.
 
Street

Street

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DSH said:
If he is really hurt and it is an intense pain, Djokovic should withdraw from the tournament so as not to aggravate that pain, if instead it is a nuisance and he can continue with it, he should not complain so much and should only concentrate on playing, otherwise he would seem suspicious that when faced with more difficult rivals when passing rounds, the Serbian resorts to incorrect ways to destabilize his opponent in turn (see the example of the final 3 years ago in New York against Wawrinka) and that is a way to appeal to the compassion I mentioned earlier.
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Ok but why would he want to destabilise Londero, i do understand that in the USO final against wawrinka he probably was trying to buy some time and destabilise his opponent since he was losing (hell, i would do it) but here i think it was too obvious it was an injury due to his shots becoming weak and no proper motivation.
 
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