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Yeah. Do those miserable men like first-strike tennis? I have dated a lot of hot nutjobs.
Maybe there's a connection.
Interesting theory.
My wife is safe & reliable. Just like my tennis game.
Yeah. Do those miserable men like first-strike tennis? I have dated a lot of hot nutjobs.
Maybe there's a connection.
When I start applying this theory to some of the people I play against, it holds up. Spot on.Interesting theory.
My wife is safe & reliable. Just like my tennis game.
When I start applying this theory to some of the people I play against, it holds up. Spot on.
True story.
As I said before, the one junker in my stable is at his best once he’s down big. He just stops caring and wacking away at low % slices... the less he cares, the better he does.
At least the orthadox pusher is trying to win. I can respect that.
The junker I know? He starts winning when he’s given up! Uber frustrating!!!
Or bring the pusher to the net. Most pushers have no net game.At the end of the day, this wont change:
1. Never try to over power a pusher
2. Never try to out push a pusher
3. Out skill the pusher by controlling the point / winning at the net
That’s it. Anything else is unjustified sour grapes is it not?
Or create angles to open up the court.Or bring the pusher to the net. Most pushers have no net game.
Or create angles to open up the court.
If the opponent is still beaten by said "pusher" then the latter is the better match player regardless of skill set.
Or bring the pusher to the net. Most pushers have no net game.
Pretty sure Maxi played some div 1 college if I'm not correct. Pretty sure he couldn't even rate as a 4.0 legally.
That's why its funny.
Technically, you did graduate from a University with a top tier D1 tennis program, and you played a little tennis while you passed through.Just to separate the facts from the rumors, I didn't play college tennis but I am rated 5.0 by the USTA.
Technically, you did graduate from a University with a top tier D1 tennis program, and you played a little tennis while you passed through.
Just to separate the facts from the rumors, I didn't play college tennis but I am rated 5.0 by the USTA.
Technically, you did graduate from a University with a top tier D1 tennis program, and you played a little tennis while you passed through.
I used to be your buddy. Against my current most-regular hitting partner, I used to always know that I could shift into lockdown pusher mode at the end of the set to finish him off. It was a tried and true tactic.My buddy did it to me again today. I had 40-15, 4-3 in the first. And he just started dinking. I lost that game and the next one, then we each held until the breaker, which I lost.
was so exhausted and frustrated from losing the first that I dropped the second at love in about 20 minutes. The games were close until 4-0 and then I just went into tank mode.
I guess it's a plus for me that I pressured him enough to resort to that, but it was obviously incredibly frustrating to lose the set and the match that way. He was probably more angry at himself than I have ever seen so I have to take that as a good sign amid the abject humiliation of getting bageled.
Maybe that's where I got confused.
I have watched some of your "peak form" videos and you definitely could have played college tennis somewhere.
I used to be your buddy. Against my current most-regular hitting partner, I used to always know that I could shift into lockdown pusher mode at the end of the set to finish him off. It was a tried and true tactic.
But recently, during the pandemic, we’ve both been playing more, and we’re both playing at a higher level than before and both in better physical shape. I’m usually still a step better than him. But the last several times I’ve gone into pusher mode against him, it has backfired on me. He had reached a level where he simply doesn’t miss when I give him extra time to execute his baseline shots to the corners.
In this new normal (with both of us at a better average level than before), when I’m a little bit off my game, my best closing strategy has been to take fewer risks by slicing more, but keep offensive pressure by continuing to work the sides of the court to keep him moving more than me, and to take net-approach ops when he gives them to me.
My buddy did it to me again today. I had 40-15, 4-3 in the first. And he just started dinking. I lost that game and the next one, then we each held until the breaker, which I lost.
was so exhausted and frustrated from losing the first that I dropped the second at love in about 20 minutes. The games were close until 4-0 and then I just went into tank mode.
I guess it's a plus for me that I pressured him enough to resort to that, but it was obviously incredibly frustrating to lose the set and the match that way. He was probably more angry at himself than I have ever seen so I have to take that as a good sign amid the abject humiliation of getting bageled.
Any time an opponent has the ability to completely shift gears/strategy in a match, it’s a very useful weapon.
You have everything going well, and it’s hard to go away from what was working, but if they make wholesale changes to their gameplay, then it’s almost as if the match has started over.
And that is the rub. How good are we at being able to (1) recognize the match has metaphorically started over and then (2) act accordingly, meaning completely reset our approach to each point as if there is no established rhythm to the match.
Heck, how many of us even have the sorta variety to our games to actually shift strategies?
Either way, I think a mental reset is the cure. Easier said than done.
I win about 95% of the time. He is more technically sound overall on the baseline than me, but I am a litter quicker and have a big edge in the net game.Who is normally the better player between you guys?
My HP is much better than me...he's ten years younger, at least 8 inches taller, and he played college tennis whereas I did not. He can hit a lot harder and is more technically sound. So me forcing him to push/dink is a huge deal, if I can just remove the mental obstacles.
Yeah, I realized that I was going to have to out-dink him to win the match, and I am just not going to do that. It's not a tournament. I was totally deflated, this guy and I have some really thunderous rallies and now all of a sudden he's just dinking everything and hitting drop shots. I just checked out.
He was still hitting 100+mph serves, so that was even more annoying.
Im not saying you’d have to out dink him.
Im saying that you’d have to do a mental reset as if the match just started, and he was dinking from the onset. The strategy there isnt to dink back at him. It’s to firmly take control of the point and get to the net for easy high % putaways. You cant win from the baseline anymore.
lol, going to net is pretty low-% for me
It's pretty much a no-win situation.
If you hit him to the corner, and come to net, I cannot think of a higher % stroke than the easy volley that is coming your way.
If your volleys need work, well, there you have it, you know what you need to do. Work on your volleys. Trust me, I've been where you are. You're not hopeless, you just have a major hole in your game that absolutely needs addressing. There's no excuse for not being able to volley easy putaways. Which is what his dink strategy will create if you hit him into the corners. He's either going to attempt a low % passing shot or lob. A good % of the time he will just UE the passing shot. Other times he'll miss and you'll just have to volley. And 1/2 the time his lob will be weak giving you the overhead. The %'s are very much in your favor unless you just refuse to come to net and it that case...
...if you dont like the solution, well, then there isnt really a problem.
This is excellent strategy against a real pusher, but against a 5.0+ who went to pushing because he was missing too many of his normal semi-pro grounstrokes and couldn't stand having scoreboard pressure from a far inferior opponent...coming to the net is a more dicey proposal.
What worked was returning the short dinks with drop shots, but I don't have the touch to pull that off over and over for an entire set/match.
I see. I must've missed where you said he was a 5.0
So he went into basically a high % defensive/push mode? And Im assuming he has the athleticism & anticipation to get a good jump on any sort of aggressive return you hit, even if you hit his dinker with good topspin to the corner? I guess Im just not seeing the advantage he's gaining by giving you a weak short ball. Seems like the perfect opportunity to hit a winner or chip a high % approach shot.
Yeah you got it. lol
His first step and reach are great. So he can get to anything but my hardest, flattest, most well placed shots. Or a perfect dropper.
That's the only way to earn points off him outside of making him come to net and hitting a passing shot by guessing right. If I'm not at my absolute best then bagels or breadsticks are on the menu.
When he goes into lockdown-D pusher mode, your best bet is to accept the gift of extra time, and then focus on putting more mileage on his tires. He’s giving you an opportunity to make him do the running. If you can cardio stress him a little and soften him up, then you might have a shot to level the playing field when you get to the pressure points at the end of the set.Yeah you got it. lol
His first step and reach are great. So he can get to anything but my hardest, flattest, most well placed shots. Or a perfect dropper.
That's the only way to earn points off him outside of making him come to net and hitting a passing shot by guessing right. If I'm not at my absolute best then bagels or breadsticks are on the menu.
This reminds me of a humorous anecdote from 30 years ago. My freshman dorm was competing against other dorms in an intramural volleyball tournament. We had a player on our team that was 6’6” tall with long arms who had grown up playing competitive volleyball. He could have played D1 volleyball if he hadn’t gone to a school with a top-10 D1 program. I am very competitive, so I kept making the obvious suggestion to our team that we should set for this guy, as his spiking ability was deadly. But my senior RA would have none of that - he was 5’10”, not that athletic, yet convinced that he had the ability to spike a volleyball. Whenever I reiterated my suggestion to set for our big guy with spiking talent, my RA would yell back at me, “I can spike!”Anybody ever seen competitive "pusher" volleyball? I mean one team just taps the ball over everytime rather than setting it and spiking it? No..you know why...?? because it's boring and nobody wants to play that way
Anybody ever seen competitive "pusher" volleyball? I mean one team just taps the ball over everytime rather than setting it and spiking it? No..you know why...?? because it's boring and nobody wants to play that way
Last time I played golf, I 9-ironed my way around. Anything longer was just a disaster.Or competitive "pusher" golf where the guy (or gal) just hits 7 irons off the tee and down the fairway.
Last time I played golf, I 9-ironed my way around. Anything longer was just a disaster.
Anybody ever seen competitive "pusher" volleyball? I mean one team just taps the ball over everytime rather than setting it and spiking it? No..you know why...?? because it's boring and nobody wants to play that way
Or competitive "pusher" golf where the guy (or gal) just hits 7 irons off the tee and down the fairway.
I’ve never seen even the best pro tennis players take the “volleyball” approach and go for the spike every time.
I told my friend "that guy just went and told anyone who asked that he just got beat by a "pusher". My friend hadn't heard the term before... funny stuff.
I think most of us know.I think a lot of pushers don't know what the term means or don't know that it applies to them. I've never seen too many pushers that describe their game thusly.
To be clear, I wasn't admonishing my friend when I described this "pusher" label to him. My friend was speaking to me in some sort of apologetic tone - as if he felt bad or guilty that he won this match in this way - the way you might feel bad(ish) about the net cord ball that drops right on the other side for a winner - as if he hadn't earned the win or something. I told my friend that he will likely start hearing that term "pusher" and not to worry about it. I told him that people use it when they really mean "this guy just beat me by not making mistakes and I wasn't patient enough/skilled enough to beat him". I advised my friend to not even think twice about it and to be pleased with his win - it showed he was able to adapt and to be mentally stronger than his opponent - all excellent "tennis IQ" stuff. I also told my friend that if he is doing something like that in a match and he sees the other guy getting frustrated, to keep doing it. Anyway - just wanted to be clear about it. In no way was I bashing his "pushing" playstyle, as I think that if you win with it, it's just as legitimate as anything else.I think a lot of pushers don't know what the term means or don't know that it applies to them. I've never seen too many pushers that describe their game thusly.
And I would hope that you don't apologize for it.I think most of us know.
Im further dissecting this at this moment.
I passed on earlier opportunities to marry girls that were better in bed, but higher maintenance / less chance of long term success. I waited until I found a girl that was both pretty & stable before committing to family... like a nice high & deep topspin backhand that allows me to jog up to the net for the easy volley on their weak return.
I had a conversation with a guy last week - he's 35 years old, very athletic, strong, fast, but with very rudimentary strokes - has only been playing tennis for a year - was a multi sport varsity athlete in high school. He was telling me about his singles match the previous week. The guy he was playing came out on the court and really "won" the warmup. My friend said he was intimidated and so, went into what he called "total defense mode" with his game. My friend could run down everything the other guy could hit, that wasn't out, and would just slice or moonball it back. My friend wound up winning 6-0 and 6-1 after being totally intimidated during the warmup by a guy who had pretty strokes and could hit the ball hard, but apparently not consistently. He said his opponent was PISSED.
I told my friend "that guy just went and told anyone who asked that he just got beat by a "pusher". My friend hadn't heard the term before... funny stuff.