Benoit Paire is on a 11-match losing streak. Can he defeat the record?

How far can Paire go?

  • his streak will end at FO where he will beat another Frenchman in R1

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • will reach 12-13

    Votes: 1 5.9%

  • will reach 14-15

    Votes: 1 5.9%

  • will reach 16-17

    Votes: 1 5.9%

  • will reach 18-19

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • will reach 20 and fall short because he is such a tanker - even when tanking

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • will break the record

    Votes: 8 47.1%
  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .
UnderratedSlam

UnderratedSlam

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Everyone is talking about Big 3 records. How boring. This is where it's at, this amazing record.

After starting well at the AO, where he won a 5-setter (!!!) and defeated Dimitrov (!?) to reach the 3rd round where he actually took a set off Citybus, Benoit has lost every match on the regular tour level. He won a few Qualies and a few Challenger matches, but 250 and upward he's been 0-11 since AO.

We know that Spadea holds the record. 21 matches. A record 22 years old.

I have the utmost faith in Benoit. He has all the necessary requirements to defeat this amazing record:

1. A dedicated tanker. (Gives up as soon as he loses a set, or if the umpire annoys him.)

2. Too lazy to run.

3. More concerned with how his hair looks than whether he wins a point.

4. Constantly whining and complaining.

5. Smashes several rackets per match which decreases his odds of success.

6. Completely bored with his chosen profession.

Unfortunately, Benoit won't be able to continue his streak this week because he lost in the Rome qualifiers.

But we know he can lose spectacularly in the 1st R of FO against a dedicated, hard-working clay-courter.

Admittedly, his ranking is around 65 right now, and might plummet further, making it tough for the Frenchman to continue his assault at the peak.

Also, the grass season means less running i.e. less effort which suits Benoit more than his opponents. Nobody said this would be easy.

Still, impossible is nothing, as his fellow Frenchlady once said. (Yes, she is French, i.e. French-Belgian.)
 
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ChaelAZ

ChaelAZ

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Benoît Paire
There was a point, midway through this year, when Paire’s record in the last few months of play on the ATP Tour read: P36 W4 L32. The richly gifted Frenchman had sunk into an existential funk. The rankings were frozen, which meant he could keep losing without suffering the consequences. “I arrive, I take some money and I go to the next tournament,” he told L’Equipe. And he might have gotten away without anyone noticing if he’d just done it quietly. But no. Paire said February’s Australian Open was “****”, “really crap”, “shameful” and grotesque. At the Argentina Open he tanked and spat on court and at Wimbledon, where he was fined for a “lack of effort” and heckled for “wasting everybody’s time”, he said: “I do not care about the people, I play for me and that’s it.” The French tennis association banned him from their Olympic team.

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Benoît Paire’s losing streak did not affect his ranking but his mouth cost him an Olympic place. Photograph: Ella Ling/BPI/Shutterstock
 
ibbi

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
Absolutely no way is he breaking the record. Unless he gets some nightmare first round draw at Roland Garros where he just has no hope he is 100% going to make an effort there and put on a show in front of his peeps.
 
UnderratedSlam

UnderratedSlam

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ChaelAZ said:
There was a point, midway through this year, when Paire’s record in the last few months of play on the ATP Tour read: P36 W4 L32. The richly gifted Frenchman had sunk into an existential funk. The rankings were frozen, which meant he could keep losing without suffering the consequences. “I arrive, I take some money and I go to the next tournament,” he told L’Equipe. And he might have gotten away without anyone noticing if he’d just done it quietly. But no. Paire said February’s Australian Open was “****”, “really crap”, “shameful” and grotesque. At the Argentina Open he tanked and spat on court and at Wimbledon, where he was fined for a “lack of effort” and heckled for “wasting everybody’s time”, he said: “I do not care about the people, I play for me and that’s it.” The French tennis association banned him from their Olympic team.
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That's what I call retiring in style.

Not like the other pros with their try-hard last-event tours.
 
T

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
UnderratedSlam said:
Everyone is talking about Big 3 records. How boring. This is where it's at, this amazing record.

After starting well at the AO, where he won a 5-setter (!!!) and defeated Dimitrov (!?) to reach the 3rd round where he actually took a set off Citybus, Benoit has lost every match on the regular tour level. He won a few Qualies and a few Challenger matches, but 250 and upward he's been 0-11 since AO.

We know that Spadea holds the record. 21 matches. A record 22 years old.

I have the utmost faith in Benoit. He has all the necessary requirements to defeat this amazing record:

1. A dedicated tanker. (Gives up as soon as he loses a set, or if the umpire annoys him.)

2. Too lazy to run.

3. More concerned with how his hair looks than whether he wins a point.

4. Constantly whining and complaining.

5. Smashes several rackets per match which decreases his odds of success.

6. Completely bored with his chosen profession.

Unfortunately, Benoit won't be able to continue his streak this week because he lost in the Rome qualifiers.

But we know he can lose spectacularly in the 1st R of FO against a dedicated, hard-working clay-courter.

Admittedly, his ranking is around 65 right now, and might plummet further, making it tough for the Frenchman to continue his assault at the peak.

Also, the grass season means less running i.e. less effort which suits Benoit more than his opponents. Nobody said this would be easy.

Still, impossible is nothing, as his fellow Frenchlady once said. (Yes, she is French, i.e. French-Belgian.)
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He is 136 in the YTD rankings (live race).
 
UnderratedSlam

UnderratedSlam

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Jonesy said:
I believe in Paire, if there is someone who can break the record is him.
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It is a very tricky record, much tougher than what those try-hards Djokovic, RF and Nadal do.

Because he needs to have a good enough ranking to enter the main draws - yet he needs to lose EVERY TIME. These two things are in opposition to each other, i.e. winning and losing.

He needs to somehow do consistently well at qualifiers and Challengers - yet lose on the ATP level every time. What a tough balancing act!

People don't appreciate the talent, skill and dedication involved in achieving this milestone.
 
ChaelAZ

ChaelAZ

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UnderratedSlam said:
That's what I call retiring in style.

Not like the other pros with their try-hard last-event tours.
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Have had a lot of threads about this, and I think it is extremely prevelant with younger players now, where they put in early years of work, make the big show and just do enough to collect checks, win a few titles as it strikes their fancy, then ride those few wins the rest of the year. Benny just skips the end part of actually trying to win at some point or make any effort at times.

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UnderratedSlam

UnderratedSlam

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ChaelAZ said:
Have had a lot of threads about this, and I think it is extremely prevelant with younger players now, where they put in early years of work, make the big show and just do enough to collect checks, win a few titles as it strikes their fancy, then ride those few wins the rest of the year. Benny just skips the end part of actually trying to win at some point or make any effort at times.
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Very true.

Consider this: Paire with his AO R3 this year picked up a check that's almost as big as what Courier earned when he WON AO in 1992.

Going much further back in history, Tomic for some of his early tank exits at small events picked up checks that Laver could only fantasize about while collecting slams.
 
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Wesling

Semi-Pro
well once he has to go back to chasing challengers the money dries up, I expect him to retire by then.
there is no way he is going to slog away for pocket change, when he is used to picking up 300-400.000 Euros in Round 1 money every year as well as some sponsor money etc..
 
UnderratedSlam

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Wesling said:
well once he has to go back to chasing challengers the money dries up, I expect him to retire by then.
there is no way he is going to slog away for pocket change, when he is used to picking up 300-400.000 Euros in Round 1 money every year as well as some sponsor money etc..
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That would be the common sense thing to do, retire.

But since when have Paire and common sense been used in the same sentence? (Except in this one.)

Besides, Gulbis - a tanker and very wealthy man - has been playing rinky-dink events for a while now.
 
King_olaf_the_hairy

King_olaf_the_hairy

Semi-Pro
UnderratedSlam said:
Does anyone know when Benoit decided to adopt the hipster look?
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Around 2017-ish.

He was clean-shaven in 2009 when he was trying to qualify for Roland Garros...

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From 2010 to 2015 he had a short beard...

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It began to get a little bushier in 2016...

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In 2017 he wore it much bushier, but occasionally trimmed it back. Here's February, May, July, and October...

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He seemed committed to the big beard by the end of 2017. He dabbled with a bleached look in 2018...

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I don't believe he's trimmed it back significantly since late 2017.
 
AM75

AM75

Hall of Fame
UnderratedSlam said:
Very true.

Consider this: Paire with his AO R3 this year picked up a check that's almost as big as what Courier earned when he WON AO in 1992.

Going much further back in history, Tomic for some of his early tank exits at small events picked up checks that Laver could only fantasize about while collecting slams.
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What about inflation rate?
 
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Wesling

Semi-Pro
Actually he has already cashed in 316.000 dollars by losing and we are just in may, likely 600-700.000 dollars in prize money and Some sponsors etc… lets call it 1 million euros a year? Maybe 1.2-1.3.. not bad
 
King_olaf_the_hairy

King_olaf_the_hairy

Semi-Pro
UnderratedSlam said:
Consider this: Paire with his AO R3 this year picked up a check that's almost as big as what Courier earned when he WON AO in 1992.
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Your overall point is accurate in that tennis prizemoney has increased faster than inflation, but in that specific instance I think you're conflating US dollars and Australian dollars.

In 2022 Paire received AU$221,000 (just over US$154,000) for reaching R3. In 1992 Courier received AU$360,000 (about US$278,000) for winning. Also, based on the Australian Reserve Bank's inflation calculator, Courier's AU$360k is worth about AU$720k now, so Paire is well off that in real terms.
 
LeungD

LeungD

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He's almost for sure bipolar. The meds would probably interfere with his performance, except that his level is so low that they'd probably help.
 
beltsman

beltsman

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King_olaf_the_hairy said:
Around 2017-ish.

He was clean-shaven in 2009 when he was trying to qualify for Roland Garros...

qqotw2p.jpg



From 2010 to 2015 he had a short beard...

02aUpum.jpg


nUXYiyA.jpg



It began to get a little bushier in 2016...

QlhETJn.jpg



In 2017 he wore it much bushier, but occasionally trimmed it back. Here's February, May, July, and October...

iMyC3yQ.jpg


hkPCJ77.jpg


E4k88jM.jpg


TNkuxla.jpg



He seemed committed to the big beard by the end of 2017. He dabbled with a bleached look in 2018...

0988ExN.jpg



I don't believe he's trimmed it back significantly since late 2017.
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He looks great in the red shirt clay photo.
 
UnderratedSlam

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
King_olaf_the_hairy said:
Your overall point is accurate in that tennis prizemoney has increased faster than inflation, but in that specific instance I think you're conflating US dollars and Australian dollars.

In 2022 Paire received AU$221,000 (just over US$154,000) for reaching R3. In 1992 Courier received AU$360,000 (about US$278,000) for winning. Also, based on the Australian Reserve Bank's inflation calculator, Courier's AU$360k is worth about AU$720k now, so Paire is well off that in real terms.
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Nah, I was referring to the bolded number.

The ATP money prize figures on ATPTour.com are all in US dollars. Certainly it wouldn't make sense for them to list Aussie dollars when they don't list French and German prize money in other types of currency.

In other words, Paire made the equivalent of the finalist's prize money, as opposed to the winner's.

Pretty much the same thing, basically. Won two rounds to make as much money as Edberg made for winning THREE times as many matches in 1992 AO.

Approximately. Don't go all nit-picky on me now... We are not chartered accountants discussing exact cash sum comparisons here... It's all about the gist.
 
King_olaf_the_hairy

King_olaf_the_hairy

Semi-Pro
UnderratedSlam said:
The ATP money prize figures on ATPTour.com are all in US dollars. Certainly it wouldn't make sense for them to list Aussie dollars when they don't list French and German prize money in other types of currency.
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No they're not. They specifically list Paire's AO22 winnings as "A$221,000" on his page. And on Paire's 2021 page I can see that he won A$100,000 in Melbourne, €60,000 in Paris, £48,000 at Wimbledon, and $75,000 in New York. That's for the slams. For the ATP events it looks like a mixture of US dollars and Euros.
 
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big ted

Legend
UnderratedSlam said:
Very true.

Consider this: Paire with his AO R3 this year picked up a check that's almost as big as what Courier earned when he WON AO in 1992.

Going much further back in history, Tomic for some of his early tank exits at small events picked up checks that Laver could only fantasize about while collecting slams.
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i feel the big $ is why there’s so many aholes on tour now..
classy players play to win not for $, which helps them win more
 
UnderratedSlam

UnderratedSlam

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Paire about to serve for the match.

Is he nuts enough to ruin his chances at a record at some obscure 250 event?

Is Ruusuvuori that hopeless?
 
UnderratedSlam

UnderratedSlam

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75 57.

So I actually overestimated Paire, because I assumed he'd at least reach the tie-break.

This match is over. The streak will continue.
 
UnderratedSlam

UnderratedSlam

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I Am Finnish said:
paire has ended the streak
Tim is on a 10 match losing streak
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The Finnish iss finish.

This kid played so DUMB, it amazes me. He only had to hold the ball in play on the 3rd MP and Paire would have botched a FH or BH soon enough. Instead, the fool went super-risky, missing the baseline. Paire would have netted or blasted out one of the next shots.
 
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