So what does Nadal have over Djokovic

The_Order

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
A couple days ago I was challenged by a poster on this forum to name 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic.

After taking about 5 minutes out of my day for the past 3 days, I found 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic. They are listed below.

  1. Total Majors won (22 - Record)
  2. Roland Garros titles (Record)
  3. US Open titles
  4. Olympic Singles Gold
  5. Career Golden Slam
  6. Most match wins at a major (112 - Record)
  7. 10 slam title defences (Joint-record w/Federer)
  8. Consecutive weeks in top 10 (900 and counting - Record)
  9. Leads Slam H2H
  10. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  11. 15 seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  12. 3 majors in 3 separate decades (Record)
  13. Most combined HC and Clay slams (20 - Record)
  14. Most combined Grass and Clay slams (16 - Record)
  15. Won 4 majors without losing a set (Djok has zero - Record)
  16. Won 8 majors losing no more than 1 set (Record)
  17. Defeated 4 top 10 players en route to a slam title (Joint-record w/Wilander & Federer)
  18. Clay Slam (MC + Madrid + Rome + RG) in a single season (Record)
  19. Summer Slam (Canada + Cinci + US Open) in a single season (Joint-record w/Rafter & Roddick)
  20. Highest outdoor match win % (Record)
  21. Davis Cups
  22. Outdoor titles (Record)
  23. 10+ titles at four events (Barca + MC + Rome + RG - Record)
  24. Most combined HC + Clay titles (88 - Record)
  25. Most match wins vs #1 ranked player (23 - Record)
  26. 13 YE top 2 finishes (Record)
  27. 592+ weeks in top 2 (Record)
  28. 16 consecutive years qualified for YEC (Record)
  29. 46 consecutive match wins at single tournament (46 @ MC - Record)
  30. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  31. 15 seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  32. 20+ finals reached on two different surfaces at M1000 level (Record)
  33. Oldest RG Champion (Record)
  34. 8 slam finals reached without losing a set (Record)
  35. 4 consecutive M1000 in a season (Record)
  36. 8 M1000 won without losing a set (Record)
  37. 76 M1000 sf reached (Record)
  38. 99 M1000 qf reached (Record)
  39. Held #1 ranking in three separate decades (Record)
  40. 470+ match wins on both hc and clay (Record)
  41. Most consecutive match wins on single surface (81 on clay - Record)
  42. Most Rome titles (Record)
  43. Most MC titles (Record)
  44. Unimaginable 137-3 w/l record in bo5 on clay (Record)
  45. 35+ wins on hc and clay in same season (Record)
  46. 32 consecutive matches won across 3 different surfaces (Record)
  47. 5 consecutive big titles in a single season (Record)
  48. Most consecutive years winning an ATP title (19 - Record)
  49. Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award
  50. Double channel slam (Joint-record w/Laver & Borg)

    As you can tell, Nadal fans, most of these things are records. Id say around 40/50 are the most important sporting metrics in tennis history. Don’t mess with the king.
 
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joshuayuan

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The_Order

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
Fabresque said:
I rattled you THIS much :-D 90% of these records are pointless or are clay skewed. Can’t be the GOAT, sorry.
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Yeah I'm so rattled man... oh my... you really got to me sooo much....

Just nowhere near how rattled you are from a poster on here to go and create your thread in the first place... :-D

Typical ******* schtick "Nadal's records are pointless and clay skewed" hahahahahahahaha

90% of Djok records are after he turned 28... weak field inflation only, can't be the GOAT, sorry.
 
Mike Sams

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
The_Order said:
A couple days ago I was challenged by a poster on this forum to name 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic.

After taking about 5 minutes out of my day for the past 3 days, I found 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic. They are listed below.

  1. Total Majors won (22 - Record)
  2. Roland Garros titles (Record)
  3. US Open titles
  4. Olympic Singles Gold
  5. Career Golden Slam
  6. Most match wins at a major (112 - Record)
  7. 10 slam title defences (Joint-record w/Federer)
  8. Consecutive weeks in top 10 (900 and counting - Record)
  9. Leads Slam H2H
  10. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  11. 15 seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  12. 3 majors in 3 separate decades (Record)
  13. Most combined HC and Clay slams (20 - Record)
  14. Most combined Grass and Clay slams (16 - Record)
  15. Won 4 majors without losing a set (Djok has zero - Record)
  16. Won 8 majors losing no more than 1 set (Record)
  17. Defeated 4 top 10 players en route to a slam title (Joint-record w/Wilander & Federer)
  18. Clay Slam (MC + Madrid + Rome + RG) in a single season (Record)
  19. Summer Slam (Canada + Cinci + US Open) in a single season (Joint-record w/Rafter & Roddick)
  20. Highest outdoor match win % (Record)
  21. Davis Cups
  22. Outdoor titles (Record)
  23. 10+ titles at four events (Barca + MC + Rome + RG - Record)
  24. Most combined HC + Clay titles (88 - Record)
  25. Most match wins vs #1 ranked player (23 - Record)
  26. 13 YE top 2 finishes (Record)
  27. 592+ weeks in top 2 (Record)
  28. 16 consecutive years qualified for YEC (Record)
  29. 46 consecutive match wins at single tournament (46 @ MC - Record)
  30. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  31. 15 seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  32. 20+ finals reached on two different surfaces at M1000 level (Record)
  33. Oldest RG Champion (Record)
  34. 8 slam finals reached without losing a set (Record)
  35. 4 consecutive M1000 in a season (Record)
  36. 8 M1000 won without losing a set (Record)
  37. 76 M1000 sf reached (Record)
  38. 99 M1000 qf reached (Record)
  39. Held #1 ranking in three separate decades (Record)
  40. 470+ match wins on both hc and clay (Record)
  41. Most consecutive match wins on single surface (81 on clay - Record)
  42. Most Rome titles (Record)
  43. Most MC titles (Record)
  44. Unimaginable 137-3 w/l record in bo5 on clay (Record)
  45. 35+ wins on hc and clay in same season (Record)
  46. 32 consecutive matches won across 3 different surfaces (Record)
  47. 5 consecutive big titles in a single season (Record)
  48. Most consecutive years winning an ATP title (19 - Record)
  49. Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award
  50. Double channel slam (Joint-record w/Laver & Borg)

    As you can tell, Nadal fans, most of these things are records. Id say around 40/50 are the most important sporting metrics in tennis history. Don’t mess with the king.
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Does Nadal come into your dreams daily? The level of obsession is insane! o_O o_O
 
Nadal_Django

Nadal_Django

Legend
mahatma said:
Lol what a pointless list. The user has to combine clay in most of the records to make it of any sense. Lol.
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Yep it's the same old boring clay record posted in 50 different reiterations. Lol They are cheating the readers again and trying to make Black Adam to look like a Superman. For the poor Bullzillions and their hero everything starts and ends with clay, I'm afraid.
 
itrium84

itrium84

Hall of Fame
The_Order said:
A couple days ago I was challenged by a poster on this forum to name 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic.

After taking about 5 minutes out of my day for the past 3 days, I found 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic. They are listed below.

  1. Total Majors won (22 - Record)
  2. Roland Garros titles (Record)
  3. US Open titles
  4. Olympic Singles Gold
  5. Career Golden Slam
  6. Most match wins at a major (112 - Record)
  7. 10 slam title defences (Joint-record w/Federer)
  8. Consecutive weeks in top 10 (900 and counting - Record)
  9. Leads Slam H2H
  10. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  11. 15 seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  12. 3 majors in 3 separate decades (Record)
  13. Most combined HC and Clay slams (20 - Record)
  14. Most combined Grass and Clay slams (16 - Record)
  15. Won 4 majors without losing a set (Djok has zero - Record)
  16. Won 8 majors losing no more than 1 set (Record)
  17. Defeated 4 top 10 players en route to a slam title (Joint-record w/Wilander & Federer)
  18. Clay Slam (MC + Madrid + Rome + RG) in a single season (Record)
  19. Summer Slam (Canada + Cinci + US Open) in a single season (Joint-record w/Rafter & Roddick)
  20. Highest outdoor match win % (Record)
  21. Davis Cups
  22. Outdoor titles (Record)
  23. 10+ titles at four events (Barca + MC + Rome + RG - Record)
  24. Most combined HC + Clay titles (88 - Record)
  25. Most match wins vs #1 ranked player (23 - Record)
  26. 13 YE top 2 finishes (Record)
  27. 592+ weeks in top 2 (Record)
  28. 16 consecutive years qualified for YEC (Record)
  29. 46 consecutive match wins at single tournament (46 @ MC - Record)
  30. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  31. 15 seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  32. 20+ finals reached on two different surfaces at M1000 level (Record)
  33. Oldest RG Champion (Record)
  34. 8 slam finals reached without losing a set (Record)
  35. 4 consecutive M1000 in a season (Record)
  36. 8 M1000 won without losing a set (Record)
  37. 76 M1000 sf reached (Record)
  38. 99 M1000 qf reached (Record)
  39. Held #1 ranking in three separate decades (Record)
  40. 470+ match wins on both hc and clay (Record)
  41. Most consecutive match wins on single surface (81 on clay - Record)
  42. Most Rome titles (Record)
  43. Most MC titles (Record)
  44. Unimaginable 137-3 w/l record in bo5 on clay (Record)
  45. 35+ wins on hc and clay in same season (Record)
  46. 32 consecutive matches won across 3 different surfaces (Record)
  47. 5 consecutive big titles in a single season (Record)
  48. Most consecutive years winning an ATP title (19 - Record)
  49. Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award
  50. Double channel slam (Joint-record w/Laver & Borg)

    As you can tell, Nadal fans, most of these things are records. Id say around 40/50 are the most important sporting metrics in tennis history. Don’t mess with the king.
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Honestly, I expected more significant records and achievements. Rafa is still behind Novak and Fed in GOAT race, he desperately needs more weeks no1 and YEC titles.
 
M

merwy

G.O.A.T.
Who challenged you to write those 50 things down? It reminds me of the meme that goes like “oh so you’re not racist? Name every black person”
 
irishnadalfan1983

irishnadalfan1983

Hall of Fame
The_Order said:
A couple days ago I was challenged by a poster on this forum to name 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic.

After taking about 5 minutes out of my day for the past 3 days, I found 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic. They are listed below.

  1. Total Majors won (22 - Record)
  2. Roland Garros titles (Record)
  3. US Open titles
  4. Olympic Singles Gold
  5. Career Golden Slam
  6. Most match wins at a major (112 - Record)
  7. 10 slam title defences (Joint-record w/Federer)
  8. Consecutive weeks in top 10 (900 and counting - Record)
  9. Leads Slam H2H
  10. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  11. 15 seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  12. 3 majors in 3 separate decades (Record)
  13. Most combined HC and Clay slams (20 - Record)
  14. Most combined Grass and Clay slams (16 - Record)
  15. Won 4 majors without losing a set (Djok has zero - Record)
  16. Won 8 majors losing no more than 1 set (Record)
  17. Defeated 4 top 10 players en route to a slam title (Joint-record w/Wilander & Federer)
  18. Clay Slam (MC + Madrid + Rome + RG) in a single season (Record)
  19. Summer Slam (Canada + Cinci + US Open) in a single season (Joint-record w/Rafter & Roddick)
  20. Highest outdoor match win % (Record)
  21. Davis Cups
  22. Outdoor titles (Record)
  23. 10+ titles at four events (Barca + MC + Rome + RG - Record)
  24. Most combined HC + Clay titles (88 - Record)
  25. Most match wins vs #1 ranked player (23 - Record)
  26. 13 YE top 2 finishes (Record)
  27. 592+ weeks in top 2 (Record)
  28. 16 consecutive years qualified for YEC (Record)
  29. 46 consecutive match wins at single tournament (46 @ MC - Record)
  30. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  31. 15 seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  32. 20+ finals reached on two different surfaces at M1000 level (Record)
  33. Oldest RG Champion (Record)
  34. 8 slam finals reached without losing a set (Record)
  35. 4 consecutive M1000 in a season (Record)
  36. 8 M1000 won without losing a set (Record)
  37. 76 M1000 sf reached (Record)
  38. 99 M1000 qf reached (Record)
  39. Held #1 ranking in three separate decades (Record)
  40. 470+ match wins on both hc and clay (Record)
  41. Most consecutive match wins on single surface (81 on clay - Record)
  42. Most Rome titles (Record)
  43. Most MC titles (Record)
  44. Unimaginable 137-3 w/l record in bo5 on clay (Record)
  45. 35+ wins on hc and clay in same season (Record)
  46. 32 consecutive matches won across 3 different surfaces (Record)
  47. 5 consecutive big titles in a single season (Record)
  48. Most consecutive years winning an ATP title (19 - Record)
  49. Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award
  50. Double channel slam (Joint-record w/Laver & Borg)

    As you can tell, Nadal fans, most of these things are records. Id say around 40/50 are the most important sporting metrics in tennis history. Don’t mess with the king.
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Damn - you are good :)
 
T

thrust

Legend
The_Order said:
A couple days ago I was challenged by a poster on this forum to name 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic.

After taking about 5 minutes out of my day for the past 3 days, I found 50 things Nadal has over Djokovic. They are listed below.

  1. Total Majors won (22 - Record)
  2. Roland Garros titles (Record)
  3. US Open titles
  4. Olympic Singles Gold
  5. Career Golden Slam
  6. Most match wins at a major (112 - Record)
  7. 10 slam title defences (Joint-record w/Federer)
  8. Consecutive weeks in top 10 (900 and counting - Record)
  9. Leads Slam H2H
  10. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  11. 15 seasons winning 1+ major (Record)
  12. 3 majors in 3 separate decades (Record)
  13. Most combined HC and Clay slams (20 - Record)
  14. Most combined Grass and Clay slams (16 - Record)
  15. Won 4 majors without losing a set (Djok has zero - Record)
  16. Won 8 majors losing no more than 1 set (Record)
  17. Defeated 4 top 10 players en route to a slam title (Joint-record w/Wilander & Federer)
  18. Clay Slam (MC + Madrid + Rome + RG) in a single season (Record)
  19. Summer Slam (Canada + Cinci + US Open) in a single season (Joint-record w/Rafter & Roddick)
  20. Highest outdoor match win % (Record)
  21. Davis Cups
  22. Outdoor titles (Record)
  23. 10+ titles at four events (Barca + MC + Rome + RG - Record)
  24. Most combined HC + Clay titles (88 - Record)
  25. Most match wins vs #1 ranked player (23 - Record)
  26. 13 YE top 2 finishes (Record)
  27. 592+ weeks in top 2 (Record)
  28. 16 consecutive years qualified for YEC (Record)
  29. 46 consecutive match wins at single tournament (46 @ MC - Record)
  30. 10 consecutive seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  31. 15 seasons winning 1+ M1000 title (Record)
  32. 20+ finals reached on two different surfaces at M1000 level (Record)
  33. Oldest RG Champion (Record)
  34. 8 slam finals reached without losing a set (Record)
  35. 4 consecutive M1000 in a season (Record)
  36. 8 M1000 won without losing a set (Record)
  37. 76 M1000 sf reached (Record)
  38. 99 M1000 qf reached (Record)
  39. Held #1 ranking in three separate decades (Record)
  40. 470+ match wins on both hc and clay (Record)
  41. Most consecutive match wins on single surface (81 on clay - Record)
  42. Most Rome titles (Record)
  43. Most MC titles (Record)
  44. Unimaginable 137-3 w/l record in bo5 on clay (Record)
  45. 35+ wins on hc and clay in same season (Record)
  46. 32 consecutive matches won across 3 different surfaces (Record)
  47. 5 consecutive big titles in a single season (Record)
  48. Most consecutive years winning an ATP title (19 - Record)
  49. Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award
  50. Double channel slam (Joint-record w/Laver & Borg)

    As you can tell, Nadal fans, most of these things are records. Id say around 40/50 are the most important sporting metrics in tennis history. Don’t mess with the king.
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The fact IS that Novak is ranked above Rafa by Tennisbase, Ultimate Tennis Statistics, and Slackman. I wonder why? All of which all those facts mentioned, mean little or nothing!
 
Nadal_Django

Nadal_Django

Legend
thrust said:
The fact IS that Novak is ranked above Rafa by Tennisbase, Ultimate Tennis Statistics, and Slackman. I wonder why? All of which all those facts mentioned, mean little or nothing!
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Who cares about Tennisbase, Tennis Abstract and UTS when Octobrina, Clayqueen and Order have Nadal as the undisputed Goat on their ranking lists. :-D
 
AO13

AO13

Hall of Fame
I am certain Rafa has the record over Djokovic when it comes to on how many Spanish girls he has scored.

You should add that to this list too.
 
L

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
Some records are just more significant than others (same goes for Djokovic's list, of course)

For Nadal, the most important are 1) and 2).
For 1) we all know it isn't over. Djokovic is 1 year younger. At the same age Nadal (35) had 20 Slams, Djokovic has 21. Djokovic is healthier and more polyvalent.

5) is worthless, since he never won the WTF and had about 5x more opportunities to win it (versus Djokovic and the Olympic Games)

8) is impressive, I admit it. But Nadal's weeks in the top-10 and the top-2 pales next to Djokovic's weeks at #1... almost twice more than Nadal. Ouch. Who cares that he has the record of weeks as world number #2 when his number 1 rival spent more than 3 complete years at the top? Should me make stats for who spent the most weeks in the top-7, top-9, top-14 and top-18 too? lol

9) lol. Djokovic still leads the overall H2H even if this H2H is widely unbalanced (half of their meetings were on clay, knowing clay only represents 25% of the season)... I will include the H2H (Slam or not Slam) in the Goat debate when 70% of their matches are on HC.
Only 2 matches in Australia and 3 (2 completed matches) in Wimbledon versus 10 in RG. What would the Slam H2H be if they'd played 10 times in AO and 10 in Wimbledon?

19) pales compared to Djokovic's quadruple Sunshine Double... one of the hardest achievements in tennis.

44) is great, like 2) and 23) and his other clay records. I think we can all acknowledge he is the Clay Goat.

Nadal will never have 17,000 points, hold the 5 Majors at the same time or win every Slams and Masters twice. Will never have 7 in 2 different Slams. I think those records are just as significant as his 14 RG.
 
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