Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
What’s your prediction for Rafa at the French this year?
Even if Nadal wins the French open this year, there is nothing miracle in that according to me
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alexio
G.O.A.T.
whats yours
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Round 4 exitwhats yours
alexio
G.O.A.T.
this is amazing moment, didnt expect it from you tbh, but ok, move on..OR win the tournament without losing a set,
ADuck
Legend
Anything could happen. Things should be more clear by the end of Rome.
ADuck
Legend
Why not quote me instead? It is low IQ to say Nadal faked his injuries. Defending that statement equally so.such a high iq statement isnt it folks..anything could happen.. looks like duck should be more careful before callin others with low iq statements
Phenomenal
Professional
Tell that to TTW experts. You are right about Nadal being underrated in most of his career. One part of the reason is the dislike from the other fans as they don't want to see him winning again so that's not logical.
At this point nothing will surprise me with Nadal. He can lose early or win RG or 2 slam. Yes he is capable of winning slams But it will be very impressive regardless if he manages to win anything.
It's just pure speculation now since we don't know his form. He only played 1 event with that level he is not winning but he will improve likely.
When the experts are wrong they will move on and continue what they do here so it's easy to talk.
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Phenomenal
Professional
Of course Nadal is capable of winning. It's not like players deathrone Nadal on clay. His health stopped him for year.
I don't understand the logic of Nadal is 4th 5th favourite(why not 3rd or no favourite) lol. Nobody performed well to be clear favourite.
RG looks very open from now but the picture will be more clear at the end of Rome.
I don't understand the logic of Nadal is 4th 5th favourite(why not 3rd or no favourite) lol. Nobody performed well to be clear favourite.
RG looks very open from now but the picture will be more clear at the end of Rome.
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Phenomenal
Professional
Lets say Nadal wins Madrid people will say he is lock at RG. Assume he loses in first rounds at Madrid and Rome. Everyone will say he is done. Just see how easily things change or people change their mind.
BauerAlmeida
Hall of Fame
It depends on what happens between here and RG. If things continue like they are now, it would be a big surprise if he wins Roland Garros.
If he wins Madrid or Rome, it wouldn't be a big surprise.
If he wins Madrid or Rome, it wouldn't be a big surprise.
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal is someone who is out of tennis for 2 years. He is not winning Madrid.
nolefam_2024
Talk Tennis Guru
And people are not stupid. Nadal is 38 years old. And injured for 2 years.
It's not same as someone calling Raz or sinner as done at age 20/22..
It's not even same as calling world number 1 Djokovic as done
Nadal is in similar boat as Stan Murray Kei Milos. All retiring this year.
It's not same as someone calling Raz or sinner as done at age 20/22..
It's not even same as calling world number 1 Djokovic as done
Nadal is in similar boat as Stan Murray Kei Milos. All retiring this year.
I too agree that Nadal is almost 38 years old and he has not played much for the past two years. But still he is Rafael Nadal, one of the mightiest champions in the history of sports. He is very talented, very hard working, one of the greatest fighters with never give up till the end attitude and he has extremely high level of will power, determination and mental toughness. Nothing is impossible for such a kind of person and Nadal has already proved that so many times in his career by winning against all odds and people's negative predictions (Example: 2022 Australian Open, 2022 French Open, 2017 US Open, 2010 US Open to name a few).
Also Nadal has been practicing very intensely hard for the past few days and he himself has told a few days ago that he is even ready to die at the French Open in order to win it. That itself clearly indicates how much determined Nadal is to win the French Open this year. If Nadal has no chance at all as you imply, why does he need to practice so intensely hard. Nadal knows about himself and his chances more than anybody else right. So if Nadal is making serious preparations for the French open, he feels that he has a definite chance of winning it and he is very determined to do exactly that. Otherwise he would have simply given up if he feels that he had no chance of winning the upcoming French open and he will not even bother with all the intense practice sessions that he is currently undertaking.
Nadal may or may not win the French Open this year but one thing I am very much sure is that stopping Nadal is not going to be easy for anybody at this year's French open and it will require a Herculean effort (playing consistently very well from start to finish) to do so in spite of Nadal's old age and long absence from the competition.
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Zardoz7/12
Hall of Fame
You know what the miracle is? That Nadal is playing professional tennis after 23 years of being a pro.
I remember even by 2009 that there were rumors his knee tendonitis was going to force him into a premature retirement.
He's squeezed every last drop out of his body to win.
I remember even by 2009 that there were rumors his knee tendonitis was going to force him into a premature retirement.
He's squeezed every last drop out of his body to win.
The above fact clearly demonstrates the point that I have been making all along in this thread i.e. Nadal is a very strong-willed and tough person who is capable of winning against all odds and expectations. So what makes you think that Nadal will not win the French Open this year?
I completely agree with your above statement and that is the reason why I feel that Nadal can never be counted out from winning anything and he can make what many people think impossible as possible and your above point clearly proves that.
Having followed Nadal well for the past 20 years or so, I am very sure that Nadal is one of the strong favorites to win the French Open this year and there is absolutely no shock or surprise or miracle if Nadal lifts his 15th Roland Garros title in a couple of months and even if he goes on to win more big tournaments going forward. He is Rafael Nadal, one of the earth's mightiest warriors and a very tough nut to crack. He will not go away that easily and he will keep fighting till the very end.
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zakopinjo
Rookie
Phenomenal
Professional
He already said that in one of his interviews. Wouldn't have done it otherwise.
Phenomenal
Professional
Stop repeating the same nonsense like you do in other threads. Implying him as retired player.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Further back than that. Nadal was told in November 2005 that his tennis career was likely over, due to the left foot injury (Mueller-Weiss syndrome). Nadal was thinking of trying professional golf for a short time.
To this day, 2005 remains the year when Nadal won the most tournaments, at 11, before the Mueller-Weiss diagnosis.
You could literally take any great player in history and put together a similar list. At many points in every great player's career, there were many people who doubted they would continue to achieve what they ended up achieving afterwards. No one knows the future and you are never going to have it be unanimous that everyone predicts that one player will continue to win to a ridiculous degree into the future. You are focusing only on the negative and not realizing (or simply ignoring) that there were also many people who predicted that Nadal would go on to continue achieving great things at each point in his career. In other words, you are making a big stink about nothing. Chill out. Nadal is justifiably the 4th favorite to win the French Open at this moment.
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zakopinjo
Rookie
What do you need to understand that Nadal is a retired player?
Official announcement?
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
That's not Joker?after all those years, you guys don't believe in 'miracles'?
I do not think that many people under-estimated Federer like they under-estimated Nadal. I remember that many people always saw Federer as the favorite and Nadal as the underdog but mostly Nadal emerged victorious of the two and many people used to see Nadal's victories and achievements as some sort of miracle when there is absolutely no miracle in that. According to me, Nadal is a physical freak which is the main reason why he was able to train so intensely hard and give maximum effort for each and every point over a period of 20 years. Other players including very successful ones like Federer and Djokovic simply do not have the ability to practice so intensely hard and give maximum effort for each and every point as they need to focus more on the energy conservation for the subsequent games, matches and tournaments and they are more prone to getting tired since they are more of ordinary human beings and are not physical freaks like Nadal who is gifted with an unlimited amount of energy by genetics. In my humble opinion, Nadal is the one who was/is the real favorite to win against anybody else and people are very sort sighted not to realize that fact. Even now, I won't be even one bit surprised or shocked even if Nadal goes on to win many more slams and big titles going forward and manage to surpass Djokovic's slam record and masters record. I honestly do not think that Djokovic's records can be considered safe from Nadal because Nadal is capable of achieving anything by sheer will power and extra ordinary ability to work continuously hard without getting tired and nature has gifted him with that ability. According to me the real miracle is Djokovic somehow leading the slam race over Nadal as of now which may change very quickly. This is my very honest and sincere feelings.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
You need to start posting when you mean it and not when you're unsure lol
alexio
G.O.A.T.
bravo bravo novack
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
These are the kinds of conversations we get during qualifications for Madrid!
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
Nadal and Djokovic are neck and neck for percentage of points during their careers. The facts totally contradict everything that you are saying here.
Ask yourself what kind of total effort Nadal made in his last match and how that is going to predict what he is going to do next this year even on clay.
Unseeded Player
Hall of Fame
This, and by playing he needs to take care of injuries.
Turning Pro
Hall of Fame
Winning the FO 2022 was a miracle in itself with his ultra numb foot. Beating 4 top 10 players in a slam in a row(stands alone?) at 36.
And Nole was the favourite too just like 2020 with perfect conditions and as defending champ.
This would about definitely top it though.
And Nole was the favourite too just like 2020 with perfect conditions and as defending champ.
This would about definitely top it though.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Exactly. AO and FO22 were so beyond epic it was the perfect last dance if nothing else happens. We were blown away and spoiled from epicness
Nadal himself admitted in his interview after the Barcelona loss that he deliberately chose not to put maximum effort into that match since he wants to conserve his best for the French open which is the most important thing for him. Nadal wants to ensure that he remains in the best possible shape for the Roland Garros and he is very clearly determined to win his 15th RG title this year and the way he is intensely practicing and working hard every day clearly shows that.
Regarding Djokovic, I have seen him losing his concentration, getting distracted and irritated a lot of times during his matches (Example: 2020 US open 4th round against Carreno Busta which resulted in his disqualification) but Nadal is never perturbed by anything and he is always fully focused on getting his job done and he is like a machine in that regard (nothing can shake his rhythm and he is like a rock) which is why I feel that Nadal is a greater champion than Djokovic even though I admit that Djokovic is also a very good and talented player with a very good fighting spirit but still he is not in the same league as Nadal.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Not saying you're wrong but majority opinion doesn't necessarily mean the right one.
According to me, Nadal winning the 2022 Australian Open or the 2022 French Open is not a miracle at all. As I have said many times in this thread, Nadal is a born champion who is capable of handling any challenge that is thrown at him and is capable of winning anything. Winning is something that is in his genes.Exactly. AO and FO22 were so beyond epic it was the perfect last dance if nothing else happens. We were blown away and spoiled from epicness
According to me, Federer winning the 2017 Australian Open by beating Nadal in the final, Djokovic winning the 2018 Wimbledon beating an in-form Nadal in the semi-final, Djokovic winning the 2022 Wimbledon courtesy of Nadal getting injured and pulling out of the semi-final, and Soderling taking out Nadal in the 2009 French Open (I still find it very difficult to believe that and till date I cannot understand how that happened) are some examples of what I see as miracles.
Thank you very much for stating the truth. For example, there was a time around 5000 years ago when almost everybody believed that earth was flat and that earth was the center of the entire universe until that was proved to be wrong.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Score-wise and statistics wise -- yes. Although the 2019 AO Final lasted 2 hours and 4 minutes vs. 2020 FO that went for 2 hours and 41 minutes.
I have never seen a (co-GOAT) so lost like Rafa was in that 2019 AO final...
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
I am afraid, there is nothing left to see...
Th official end of an era is around the corner
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
You're expressing doom. Other people are optimistic. I am simply watching. In the past I was wrong about the Big Three so many times.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Agreed, about the past. However, Nadal is a broken body. It was not just an injury...this was different...sadly.
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
In a couple months we will know for sure if you are right or not.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
just another batch of injections...... even miracles get old
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
The OP knows that the powers of Dr. Cotorro should not be underestimated.
GrandSlam24
Rookie
Does anyone think Nadal will lose twice in a row to Minaur on clay?
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