Was any confirmation given?
No, it wasn't actually called out, but rather some audience member stupidly yelled "out," which confused Nalbandian and perhaps caused him to net the next shot. Notice the umpire warning the fans over the microphone not to say "out" after that point.just saw the whole tiebreak in HD on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7uqwh932kI. That shot that was called out giving rod 8-7 looked good to me. So unfortunate for David if it was in
Having already said what I did above, however, these kinds of comments that get thrown around are pretty annoying. There is a certain anti-American/anti-Roddick faction around who seem to think they prophetically know what "would" have happened here; yes, Nalbandian was unlucky to have some fan screw him up in that point. However, it's by no means a certainty that he would have won that point anyway, nor that he would have won the next one if he had (especially since in real life, Roddick dominated that next point), nor that he would have won the final had both of those happened. It isn't as though Nalbandian was easily the superior player and Roddick won off lucky breaks; Roddick won 17 more points than Nalbandian did in the match, and even if we suppose Nalbandian was gipped out of two or three more than his opponent, that's still a subsantial differential in Roddick's favor. It's POSSIBLE Nalbandian could have won the match had he been slightly luckier, and POSSIBLE that he could have won the final (but keep in mind he has a history of disappointing in big matches at slams). As is, Roddick won that match and won the slam, with a bit of luck on his side, yes, but I don't see legitimate cause for the intense fixation on dragging down his accomplishment that some here have.
I just started liking Roddick after you said this. this is a terrible post. Oh and like nalbandian would have been guaranteed the match 100 percent had the ball went in
. The second paragraph is...
Gj, this just shows that you consistently make as little sense as RubberDuckies.
That's the thing I noticed most too, that 2nd serve!wow, amazing second kick from roddick at 8-7, look how far nalby had to get just to get it. That kick for killer forehand is all roddick needs, too bad he doesn't have it anymore
I just started liking Roddick after you said this. this is a terrible post. Oh and like nalbandian would have been guaranteed the match 100 percent had the ball went in
Well.. yea Nalby was screwed over there in the tiebreak but there is no excuse to drop a 2 set leads like that to Freakin Roddick of all people. If it was Fed or Nadal I could see. But not RODDICK!!!
Nalby should have whooped on that boy in straight sets. He was always just a much better player. Its pretty sad that someone with Dave's talent didnt do more with his career
just saw the whole tiebreak in HD on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7uqwh932kI. That shot that was called out giving rod 8-7 looked good to me. So unfortunate for David if it was in
Even though the rules clearly state that out calls from spectators are not a reason to call a let, yet something like a ballkid dropping a ball during the point is?
Oh and like nalbandian would have been guaranteed the match 100 percent had the ball went in
The chair didn't play a let because it's clearly stated in the rules that a spectator's out call is not a reason to call a let.
Ok. Here it is straight from the ATP rulebook. It is disruptive, but it doesn't get any clearer that it's not a let.
I understand what you are saying, but the rule definitely does not need to be changed. This is such a common occurrence at tournaments, and sometimes difficult to determine if "OUT" or "AHHH" is called out, especially in a crowd of 23,000 people. You could be replaying points consistently.Thanks. That rule definitely needs to be changed.
The us open doesnt punish rude fans (atmosphere) by throwing them out (pavel/agassi when they insulted his family mid serve). So whats stopping fans from yelling "out" all match long?
May have to sit front row and yell like crazy when fed has match pt against nadal
It seems likely, but again, given Nalbandian's history of failure after failure when he had the chance to do something big, it isn't a certainty. One may think Ferrero had nothing left based on the severity of his loss, but this could be deceptive, since Roddick subsequently showed himself to generally own Ferrero anyway. I'm not trying to canonize a reality in which Ferrero pulls off the win, here, but far stranger things have happened.
Obviously so; I was making mostly-separate arguments, the first being that Nalbandian, while unlucky, was far from guaranteed victory even if the luck factor had been neutral, and the second that Roddick ultimately outplayed Nalbandian on the whole, eg. the overall main factor in the result was Roddick winning a lot more points than Nalbandian, rather than somehow being gift-wrapped the match the way some portray it. Now, again, on the "If Nalbandian were to have won those points" discussion, I again emphasize, Nalbandian not being distracted by an annoying fan does not equal Nalbandian winning the point, rather it only means distraction doesn't cause his loss of a point he may or may not have gone on to win. Furthermore, if we grant that he does go on to win that point, this does not ensure him of victory either unless he wins the next point, this being against Roddick's serve- and we do know that in real life, Roddick dominated that point, though I grant that it may or may not have gone the same way in this scenario. Of course, then, if Roddick (after losing the 7-all point in this scenario) does win that point, he is not guaranteed of victory either, as this obviously still only breaks him even in the tiebreak. The point of all this is that there is absolutely no certainty about what "would" have happened had had the fan not yelled "out" during the tiebreak. What DID happen, though, is that, fully within the rules, Roddick won more points, more sets, more games, and the match.
No, Nalbandian is clearly still moving his feet when he nets the forehand. However, his stroke does look uncertain.
The shot Roddick hit WAS after the yell, although admittedly he may have been committed enough to the stroke at that point that even a real out call wouldn't have effected him.
Why should they replay the point? Nalbandian was the dumb one for stopping play. Roddick was still playing and wasn't affected by the fan's outburst at all.
