The Snauwaert fanclub _/¯

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
There is one rare frame which is almost impossible to find. Snauwaert did design McEnroe a frame. It looked just like the 200G in terms of beam shape, head size and the like. Even to the plastic a the top of the handle like the 200G. Differences were colour, it was a greyish colour. It had a different 18 x 19 string pattern I believe, and the third and most important difference, the materials. It was a conventional graphite lay up, unlike the grafil injection of the 200G. On another note about Johnny Mac, he did in the 80s use some other Dunlop frames, though sparingly. They were made in Germany frames, which had the different weighting systems you could adjust with the ball bearings. I forgot the models of them, he even used one at the US Open one year.

McEnroe used the Max Competition at the 1987 U.S. Open. I still have one along with a Slazenger Panther Pro Ceramic that was out of the same mold.

Mac1987.jpg

Mac1987a.jpg
 

plasma

Banned
very impressive that muscular connors with his tough game, and Mac who was loose like Muhammed Ali both enjoyed the same mold, thanks to Mr. T Martinez for the excellent account of the snauwaert 200g, heard of it but have never seen one, talk about a rare clone!!!!
 

jimbo333

Hall of Fame
Yes the Snauwaert 200G would be a really rare one. I had also heard about this, but didn't know it was a Snauwaert frame?
If anyone out there has photos of this, please put them up here:):)
 

plasma

Banned
ok mods, I've upped the bribe to 2 ps 85's or a 9/10 prestige pro, take my shnauwaerts off the radar...please!. Snauwaert was the Prince or Wilson back in the day in almost every country except the US, their quality was exceptional, their engineers were the best ever, descended form engineers who came from a company that I am sworn (by the son of its founder) not to mention. A an individual that designed and created the racquet of a repeated wimbeldon singles champ. The Snauwaert was 80's engineering brilliance defined. Even early in the century (circa 1925) they made kickass 3 prongs, mids, and everything you could imagine!!!
 

roundiesee

Hall of Fame
I remember when I was a kid I used to wander into the sports section of the main dept store and ogle at all the beautiful Snauwaert woods hanging on the wall. They all looked so wonderfully different from the others, almost making the Maxplys and Kramers look vulgar! Didn't have any money then so could only hold them momentarily. If I could go back in time I would but them all up.....
 
Let's see if this works...

Out of 50 post hel... ummm... heck, and seeing if this works as planned.

3 Snauwaerts:
Ergonom, Graphite Composite, and Jan Kodes
http://s720.photobucket.com/albums/...waerts/?action=view&current=3snauwaerts-1.jpg

Jan Kodes Closeup
http://s720.photobucket.com/albums/...action=view&current=snauwaert-Jan-Jodes-m.jpg

Graphite Comp Closeup
snauwaerts


My fave's the Graphite Comp. Was used (not this particular one, but the model) by Kathy Rinaldi during her days in the juniors. Interesting thing about the Graphite Comp is that there's a tie-off string hole that "marries up" with another string hole on the inside of the racket (2 holes on the outside of the frame [one under the frame, one outside the frame], one on the inside).

Hopefully this works... :)
 
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Virginia

Hall of Fame
Is that Graphite Pro the Gerulaitis signature model? Mine has the signature on the handle and on the leather grip as well.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
The photo of the Graphite Pro is the Original standard head size version. The Graphite Pro with Gerulaitis' signature is the Graphite Pro Mid. Not to be confused the the more flexible Graphite Mid that was a kind of grey color.
 

Virginia

Hall of Fame
Ah, thanks for that, vsbabolat - I'm always truly amazed at your seemingly endless racquet knowledge. I'm an absolute novice in contrast. :)

May I ask whether you are or were involved in the racquet industry?
 

Rorsach

Hall of Fame
There is one rare frame which is almost impossible to find. Snauwaert did design McEnroe a frame. It looked just like the 200G in terms of beam shape, head size and the like. Even to the plastic a the top of the handle like the 200G. Differences were colour, it was a greyish colour. It had a different 18 x 19 string pattern I believe, and the third and most important difference, the materials. It was a conventional graphite lay up, unlike the grafil injection of the 200G.

Managed to find a couple of pics of this mythical stick±

mce01.jpg

mce02.jpg
 

plasma

Banned
these come from somewhere back in my "long ago", guess I'm a fool for trying to re-create was has yet to be created...
notv1t.jpg


sentimental fool....someday.....somewhere....
 

Hannah19

Professional
Just activated my acount today, love this forum. I bought my first Snauwaert when I was on holiday in the US back in 1981.
It was an aluminum racket, the one still sold on tenniswarehouse in the vintage racket section. Beautiful frame, played like a dream untill I dropped it hard on its head during a killer service. In 1986 I bought another Snauwaert in Austria. I don't know the model but it was black and had a white and red stripe on it. I believe it was a signature model from Gerulaitis. It had a normal round shaped head. If anyone has a picture, please post it!!
Recently I discovered that there is a lively collectorsmarket for vintage rackets. I was lucky enough, just like Rorsach, to get my hands on some Snauwaert deadstock here in Holland.
Not as many, but still!!
If you are looking for the Touch-H, Force-H, Grand-H, Touch-C or Touch-F, let me know!!
 

Hannah19

Professional
Managed to find a couple of pics of this mythical stick±

mce01.jpg

mce02.jpg

I,m not sure about this being a Snauwaert.
I have got a Snauwaert MCE 001 which looks exactly like the one shown in the pics. Color, print layout, signature, everything is identical: except the fact that the frame is totally different. Slender, max. 15mm wide and has about a 95 sq.in. headsize.
The one in these pics looks like a 200G with the Snauwaert MCE 001 print on it, probably made for McEnroe for tournament play.
I could be wrong though, but it seems pointless to make two totally different versions of one and the same racquet, assuming this one is also called the MCE 001.
 
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Rule26

Rookie
Count me in.

Ifound my old Boron .. I think it will be allowed in the wooden racquet challenges.. If it is I'll string it with the Pacific Blue Spiral mock Imperial.
 

Hannah19

Professional
I want to put up some pictures if only I knew HOW!!:evil:

I just joined this forum and I have no clue how to upload pics.:confused:
Usually it is a breeze but here, I can't figure it out.
Does anyone else have a MCE 001 laying around or am I the only one who happened to stumble on one.

Let me know,
Regards, Hans (Holland).
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I want to put up some pictures if only I knew HOW!!:evil:

I just joined this forum and I have no clue how to upload pics.:confused:
Usually it is a breeze but here, I can't figure it out.
Does anyone else have a MCE 001 laying around or am I the only one who happened to stumble on one.

Let me know,
Regards, Hans (Holland).

You have down load them first to imageshack.com or photobucket.com some sort of images hosting site. Then paste the IMG code into your post.

McEnroe with the Snauwaert "S" stencil on the strings of his Dunlop Max 200G in 1990.
John_McEnroe_1990_AusOpen_Snauwaert.jpg
 

ilian

Semi-Pro
McEnroe used the Max Competition at the 1987 U.S. Open. I still have one along with a Slazenger Panther Pro Ceramic that was out of the same mold.

Mac1987.jpg

Mac1987a.jpg

I hold the Slanzenger Panther Pro Ceramic in my hands, while I am looking at the pictures of the Dunlop Max Competition and it seems to me as if they are not exactly the same. The Dunlop seems to have a longer graphite piece below the throat hole, before the grip starts...
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I hold the Slanzenger Panther Pro Ceramic in my hands, while I am looking at the pictures of the Dunlop Max Competition and it seems to me as if they are not exactly the same. The Dunlop seems to have a longer graphite piece below the throat hole, before the grip starts...

McEnroe does not have the grip wrapped all the way to the top. I own both the Dunlop Max Competition and the Panther Pro Ceramic they are identical molds.

P.S. they are one piece racquets.
 

gpt

Professional
Vitas Champion

This is a great read so thanks for all the info. I have a Snauwaert Gerulaitis wood . It's a Vitas Champion. I am familiar with the Vitas Autograph but know nothing about the champion. Saw plenty of Auto's here in Australia in the 80's. The champ is predominantly silver with red and blue. It's Belgian made of ash with a fibre reinforced head. Is this a lower end racquet? It has a lovely brown leather grip with Snauwaert written in gold along with Vitas' signature. Any info would be appreciated.
 
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Deleted member 21996

Guest
hi there guys... what do we reckon about the Snauwaert Dyno Masters?

not the blue one but a mate black with a blue gold stripe in pro staff classic fashion!


i have just found one....

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ilian

Semi-Pro
McEnroe does not have the grip wrapped all the way to the top. I own both the Dunlop Max Competition and the Panther Pro Ceramic they are identical molds.

P.S. they are one piece racquets.

Do they feel the same way in play? Are they made of the same materials? Every now and then I see one of those Dunlops for sale and I am very tempted to buy it, but I always think that since the Panther Pro Ceramic is the same racquet, I don't really need another...
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Do they feel the same way in play? Are they made of the same materials? Every now and then I see one of those Dunlops for sale and I am very tempted to buy it, but I always think that since the Panther Pro Ceramic is the same racquet, I don't really need another...

The Max Competition is Graphite and Kevlar. I liked the Max Competition better it felt like it was more flexible to me.

Back in the 80's the racquet companies would make many racquets using the same mold but would change the layup.
 

ilian

Semi-Pro
The Max Competition is Graphite and Kevlar. I liked the Max Competition better it felt like it was more flexible to me.

Back in the 80's the racquet companies would make many racquets using the same mold but would change the layup.

Thanks for that info! I might get one of the Dunlops then. You made me curious... I love flexible racquets and there is no better decade than the 80s for that since then they made them more flexible.
 
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Deleted member 8318

Guest
Used to have a few, the greenish ones that Miroslav Mecir played with - what's the model called?
 

NoNameZ

Semi-Pro
Thanks a lot Rorsach! It's a nice racket. The only thing was the strings were strung a bit too low. Recommendations?
 

Rule26

Rookie
I only had a chance to briefly take a few hits with my Boronite II this summer and put it away. My club is having a charity wooden racquet doubles tournament this weekend, so I had it restrung with the blue spiral gut.

Just wanted to share my hour of practice at the expense of a doubles match.

Wow - you really could feel the flex on every hit. I thought my serves would suffer the most, but while serving conservatively - at just under the same speed as usual, (not really trying to do anything except making clean contact with good spin) there seemed to be plenty of power available.

I could tell that I wasn't able to generate as much topspin on all shots, but the forehand really felt good.

My backhand return / half volleys & blocks really suffered from a lack of power.

Once I seemed to adjust to the racquet, I was better able to hit through the ball on the backhand.

My opponents did not notice much of a difference in whether the ball was heavier or lighter but did comment that it was unfair that I was practicing with it at the expense of our doubles league. Without going into scoring - they still kept the ball away from me even though I wasn't able to be as much of a factor as usual.

Anyway - I just hoping to honor Snauwaert when I play this weekend.
 

retrowagen

Hall of Fame
did vitas gerulaitis also play a wooden-composite racket? does anybody know?
Yes, Snauwaert had an open-throated midsized Wood/Graphite composite with attractive black and grey cosmetics called the Gerulatis Mid, although at the time, Gerulatis used the Brian Gottfried Mid, which was a bit stiffer and had black/red/orange cosmetics. Miloslav Mecir used the Gottfried Mid at the same time, FWIW. There was a identical twin to the Gottfried Mid with Tomas Smid's name on it - same laminations and compositions and colorway, otherwise... thus if one wanted to show his support of Smid, he didn't need to compromise any racquet performance! :)
 

jimbo333

Hall of Fame
Yes, Snauwaert had an open-throated midsized Wood/Graphite composite with attractive black and grey cosmetics called the Gerulatis Mid, although at the time, Gerulatis used the Brian Gottfried Mid, which was a bit stiffer and had black/red/orange cosmetics. Miloslav Mecir used the Gottfried Mid at the same time, FWIW. There was a identical twin to the Gottfried Mid with Tomas Smid's name on it - same laminations and compositions and colorway, otherwise... thus if one wanted to show his support of Smid, he didn't need to compromise any racquet performance! :)

LOL, what happened if you really liked the racquet, but didn't like Gerulaitis, Gottfried or Smid then:)

Oh, and I have seen a photo of Gerulaitis using the Black/Grey Mid version as well as the Gottfried!
 

schu47

Rookie
I have a pair of Snauwaert Golden Mids, given to me by a friend.

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/tandesmond/SnauwaertGM.jpg

There are some numbers engraved on the racket (eg, "4, 360, 310") - assume that it is the Grip size, weight, balance(?).

Does anyone know the full specs (Head size, balance, etc)?

Beautiful racquets, destan. Sorry I don't know the specs. Your guess about the numbers engraved on the racket seem right. Snauwaert produced such a variety of racquets, and so many innovative ones.
 
Yes, Snauwaert had an open-throated midsized Wood/Graphite composite with attractive black and grey cosmetics called the Gerulatis Mid, although at the time, Gerulatis used the Brian Gottfried Mid, which was a bit stiffer and had black/red/orange cosmetics. Miloslav Mecir used the Gottfried Mid at the same time, FWIW. There was a identical twin to the Gottfried Mid with Tomas Smid's name on it - same laminations and compositions and colorway, otherwise... thus if one wanted to show his support of Smid, he didn't need to compromise any racquet performance! :)

thanks for the info...
i´ve recently watched a gerulaitis-match from the 84-us open. he played a racket which indeed looked similar to the gottfried mid with different paintings ( blue/white or something)
 

retrowagen

Hall of Fame
I have a pair of Snauwaert Golden Mids, given to me by a friend.

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/tandesmond/SnauwaertGM.jpg

There are some numbers engraved on the racket (eg, "4, 360, 310") - assume that it is the Grip size, weight, balance(?).

Does anyone know the full specs (Head size, balance, etc)?

Head size of the Snauwaert Golden Mid was exactly 539 cm2. Balance was, as you guessed, 310mm; weight, 360g. This model was the stiffest of the oval-shaped line of Snauwaert composite mids offered in 1984-1985, a composite of graphite, glassfibre, aramide (Kevlar) braids, foam core, and one wood element within.
 

retrowagen

Hall of Fame
thanks for the info...
i´ve recently watched a gerulaitis-match from the 84-us open. he played a racket which indeed looked similar to the gottfried mid with different paintings ( blue/white or something)
That would be the "Gerulatis Graphite Mid" of 1984-1985, his signature fiberglass-faced, wood-graphite composite mid (541 cm2). This model was a bit more flexible than the Gottfried Graphite Mid and its twin, the Smid Graphite Mid (both also fiberglass-faced wood-graphite 541cm2 mids of the same vintage).
 

jimbo333

Hall of Fame
That would be the "Gerulatis Graphite Mid" of 1984-1985, his signature fiberglass-faced, wood-graphite composite mid (541 cm2). This model was a bit more flexible than the Gottfried Graphite Mid and its twin, the Smid Graphite Mid (both also fiberglass-faced wood-graphite 541cm2 mids of the same vintage).

And what about the Meso Graphite One?
 
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