Perspective on how hard pros hit
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skyzoo
Banned
what? who are they? For a real perspective on pros hit.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjFfuXMG0Rg
120 MPH
aphex
Banned
this guy is 19y.o. and 454 in the world...wow
ronalditop
Hall of Fame
The big sound they make when they hit the ball make it look like they hitting bombs, but thats the regular sound when playing indoors.
xFullCourtTenniSx
Hall of Fame
Kinda like how I played yesterday. Just add an extra 10-20 mph to nearly every groundstroke and serve hit, add maybe an extra 1000-2000 rpm without losing pace, and yeah... Exactly the same.
Oops, forgot to mention their foot speed and perfect footwork. Oh... And the huge difference in fitness. Haha.Even the hardest hitting rallies in practice must be like at least 10 mph slower than that! :shock: And me and my friend can hit the ball pretty damn hard! (Of course, "hard" is relative.)
The guy in blue hits like someone I've seen before (on video). Only the guy I saw was ranked around 500 ATP and had a bigger serve and better touch and feel for the ball. But this guy seems to hit hit groundstrokes harder and more confidently, especially the one hander. This guy's one hander is bigger than the other guy I saw (probably because this guy actually drives it instead of slicing half of them).
Ucantplay2much
Rookie
Wow! I love the low perspective on those vids. The top-spin and movement those guys are getting on the ball is unreal. You can't see that watching the normal TV angles.
Larrysümmers
Hall of Fame
wow I like this point of view. It really shows how big of a factor footwork is. They are always bouncing around. I probably should work on that =]
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
I agree. Whenever I watch indoor tennis I turn the sound off. You can't even really see the ball with the camera behind the net the way it is. They are hitting hard but nothing extraordinary.
Venetian
Professional
ronalditop
Hall of Fame
My thoughts exactly.
A couple months ago I watched a match between a guy who was roughly 250 on ATP tour against a guy who rose as high as 199 2.5 years ago but chose to coach instead of staying on the tour. It was a well played, close, 3 set match.
It reminded me of my last visit to Saddlebrook where our instructor and another student were both former ~300 ATP players in their late 20s/early 30s. (At age 41) I was lucky to stay in a rally with that student for more than 4 balls and they would have 20 or 40 shot long rallies against each other.
Observe how much of it is anticipation, footwork, preparation and rally balls to construct the point to their advantage. Watch how quickly they can switch from defense to neutral or offense. Most importantly recognize how seldom they actually hit the ball to generate full power. When they do they'll often nail it.
IMO most low level amateurs tend to fixate too much on generating power and winners. Great - you might win a battle but are likely to lose the war. Pros focus on winning enough strategic battles to win the war and use the best tools suited to the task to do so.
K_I
It reminded me of my last visit to Saddlebrook where our instructor and another student were both former ~300 ATP players in their late 20s/early 30s. (At age 41) I was lucky to stay in a rally with that student for more than 4 balls and they would have 20 or 40 shot long rallies against each other.
Observe how much of it is anticipation, footwork, preparation and rally balls to construct the point to their advantage. Watch how quickly they can switch from defense to neutral or offense. Most importantly recognize how seldom they actually hit the ball to generate full power. When they do they'll often nail it.
IMO most low level amateurs tend to fixate too much on generating power and winners. Great - you might win a battle but are likely to lose the war. Pros focus on winning enough strategic battles to win the war and use the best tools suited to the task to do so.
K_I
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xFullCourtTenniSx
Hall of Fame
20-40... I'm sure they could go higher if they wanted to. I doubt they'd do 20-40 in a match unless they're Nadal and Monfils status.
You mean low level amateur young men. Women will happily dink the ball back all day long. Of the two approaches honestly i feel the power way is better.
If your hitting the ball way out and long you can tweak your swing so you can bring the ball down with more topspin. But if your dinking the ball around your not going to suddenly develop any power. I agree that going for winners can be a problem though for the guys though.
You can win alot of points just hitting a quality shot back..
BullDogTennis
Hall of Fame
3.5's.......
Fair feedback; I base my "low level amateur" comments upon what I see most often - which are guys.
skyzoo
Banned
Don't be genorous. 3.0 tops
Raid
Banned
terrible footwork
Cody
Semi-Pro
You forgot the "at best..."
He also forgot "in Hawaii, but no more than 2.5 in MY area"
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
yeah, in Atlanta>> they'd be lucky to get on a 3.5 team. They would have to settle for 3.0 teams>>> and it doesn't mean that will get any play time.
Absolutely unreal forehand there, and the perfect perspective to see it from.
Bud
Bionic Poster
That court level perspective is the best.
Raid
Banned
prattle128
Semi-Pro
made me lol
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
a bit annoying actually. compared to the first two, they really arent doing anything other than aggressively spinning the ball in. not to mention the grunting over and over and over. 'course, the slowness very well could be b/c it's on clay. but they don't even look like they're constructing points, just hitting it around really.
you can see the differences even in world class players, i guess.
35ft6
Legend
That's clay court tennis.
Thought they were pretty much playing text book clay court tennis, try to push the opponent back, hit drop shots, etc.
ubermeyer
Hall of Fame
people that would simply triple golden set us in under 10 total minutes, you mean.
xFullCourtTenniSx
Hall of Fame
Gee... Wonder what you think of Nadal then. Even worse, I wonder how you felt when he hit #1 in the world and was dominating the tour for almost a year. :shock:
And they look to be playing solid clay court tennis.
That's essentially what it means to play pro tennis. And clay is a game against mistakes. You get punished more on clay for mistakes than hard courts in my opinion.
